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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:31 AM Dec 2012

Teachers in Utah to get (required) concealed weapons training

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Gun group offers training for Utah teachers

PAUL FOY
Associated Press


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Classroom teachers could stop school shootings by carrying concealed weapons, say gun-rights advocates who plan to offer the required training Thursday for 200 Utah teachers.

The Utah Shooting Sports Council said it would waive its $50 fee for concealed-weapons training for the teachers. Instruction featuring plastic guns is set to begin at noon Thursday inside a conference room at Maverick Center, a hockey arena in the Salt Lake City suburb of West Valley.

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Utah educators say they would ban guns if they could and have no way of knowing how many teachers are armed. Gun-rights advocates estimate that 1 percent of Utah teachers or 240 are licensed to carry concealed weapons. It's not known how many pack guns at school.

"It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education, who argues teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire or cause an accidental shooting. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea."

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Teachers in Utah to get (required) concealed weapons training (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2012 OP
The training is required to get a CCL, there is no requirement to carry concealed in Utah schools. bluedigger Dec 2012 #1
It's just dumb enough to look attractive to the Obama-Duncan DOE: Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #2
If this is a one day class I would say it is a waste of time. IMO LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #3
Depends on the instructor... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #6
Knowledge is EVIL! slackmaster Dec 2012 #4
is anyone going to teach gun retention to the same teachers? NightWatcher Dec 2012 #5

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
1. The training is required to get a CCL, there is no requirement to carry concealed in Utah schools.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:35 AM
Dec 2012

Just in case anyone else found the story confusing.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. It's just dumb enough to look attractive to the Obama-Duncan DOE:
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
Dec 2012

>>>"It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education, who argues teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire or cause an accidental shooting. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea." >>>>

Maybe they can cut a multi-billion dollar deal w. a contractor like Pearson or the Gates-funded Danielson Group to produce elaborate teacher gun-handling evaluation rubrics.

$$$Goodies for everyone!

Yay.

LP2K12

(885 posts)
6. Depends on the instructor...
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:06 PM
Dec 2012

However, most classes are a day or less.

Question; How long is the CCW/CPL course?
Answer; CCW/CPL classes are a one day class, usually between 8-9 hours.

Source: http://www.americanfirearmstraining.com/FAQ.html (In Detroit)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. is anyone going to teach gun retention to the same teachers?
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:55 AM
Dec 2012

What happens when two or three middle or high schoolers wrestle and take the teacher's gun away? I'm giving it 6 months after the first teachers start packing.

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