China School Knife Attack on Video

[JI7]

[Whovian]

1. Injured, not killed.

[HiPointDem]

2. 25 children have been killed, 115 injured, in school knife attacks in china 2010-2012. so it's not

like it doesn't happen.

[JI7]

3. yes, but with guns the numbers would be a lot higher

those kids who had that stick or whatever to try to hold the guy off would have had no chance if he had a gun.

[LAGC]

4. It's still unacceptable.

Resources need to be devoted to address the reason why these deranged folks resort to mass-injury, regardless of tool used to carry out their slaughters. Help and intervention need to be the solution, not banning particular tools.

[JI7]

6. well, china clearly has a lot of problems, look at the incident of the girl who was run over and

nobody stopped to help for a long time. it's actually kind of easier to see what their issues are with lack of freedoms. the worst of capitalism mixed with the worst of communism etc.

[HiPointDem]

7. the mass attacks are a recent phenomenon so i doubt they have much to do with 'communism,'

unless it's the disappearance of the protections that 'communism' afforded people -- such as guaranteed work, housing and food and a measure of respect.

[JI7]

8. yes, that's why i mentioned capitalism , it's not the same communism anymore

not that things were great before. but i think there is more of a gap in wealth that people see.

[HiPointDem]

9. there is a *huge* gap, and i think it's pretty obvious to chinese. you have nouveau riche in

mercedes and dirt poor peasants living in mud huts.

china is now one of the more unequal societies in the world:

Study: Income inequality skyrockets in China, now among world’s highest

The gap between the rich and the poor is widening rapidly in China, according to a new study from Southwestern University of Finance and Economics, a Chinese college located in the city of Chengdu. Income inequality is an increasingly important issue for China, where elites are growing conspicuously wealthy as the middle class finds itself stalled and frustrated.

The just-out study finds that China’s Gini coefficient was, as of 2010, an alarmingly high 0.61. That would be up substantially from the CIA’s 2009 estimate of 0.48 and the World Bank’s 2005 number, 0.43. The Gini coefficient, though imperfect, is a widely cited tool for measuring the disparity between a country’s rich and poor. The higher a country’s number, the more unequal are its people.

Comparing this new measurement with past Gini studies suggests that China may now be one of the most economically unequal countries on Earth, and the most unequal outside of sub-Saharan Africa. Compared to World Bank data, China ranks as the world’s fifth most unequal, tied with Botswana. It performs a little better alongside CIA data, which would rank China as the world’s seventh most unequal, between Haiti and the Central African Republic. These comparisons are imperfect, since the Chinese university study may not have used the same measurements as the World Bank or CIA studies, but a rough way of demonstrating the severity of China’s growing class problem.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/11/study-income-inequality-skyrockets-in-china-now-among-worlds-highest/

and this (below) is total BS: there was no such large jump in inequality as japan's economy industrialized and grew, for example; rather the opposite.

It’s important to note, though, that income inequality often skyrockets in rapidly growing economies, as new wealth accumulates among the already-wealthy and already-powerful. China’s economy is one of the largest and fastest-growing in economic history, so in some ways it is not shocking that inequality would also reach extreme highs. But the problem’s foreseeability does not make it any less severe.

[HiPointDem]

5. there have been more than a dozen school knife attacks in china in the last 2 years. mostly

in elementary schools.

strangely enough the reaction in china is the same as here; tighter restrictions on knives & security guards at schools.

it really doesn't seem to matter what suddenly provoked people to start attacking schoolchildren randomly, as that can't be changed.

how come 'crazy' people didn't use to just go & kill schoolchildren?

In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/


mass slaughter of random children is always an act of political terror or an acting out of an intense revenge/hatred toward society generally.

it's not about 'crazy people' & ultimately it's not about guns.

[JI7]

10. well, guns do matter since they can do more harm and there is no other purpose to them than killing

people.

the gun deaths here are way more than china knife deaths. especially when you take into account population .

[HiPointDem]

11. yes, they are more per capita. but there are plenty of places with fewer guns per capita and more

gun deaths.

the wonder is that gun deaths are so low, since the us has way more guns per capita than any other country, supposedly.

[JI7]

12. which places are those ?

[HiPointDem]

13. most of latin america, for starters.

[JI7]

15. but they aren't the top economy, world power etc

as we are. they have a lot of problems just as china does.

we are closer to places like western europe, japan .

[HiPointDem]

16. and the reason that's significant is....?

on japan:

-Its murder rate is much lower than the US; its suicide rate much higher, despite limited access to guns.

-Its crime rate in general is much lower.

-Its murder & crime rate used to be significantly higher, i.e. japan's low rate of violence & crime is not some long-standing 'traditional japanese value'.

on china:

china is one of the top world economies, & a world power. not sure why you place china & latin america in the same box.

[JI7]

17. china lacks a lot of freedoms, i'm saying we know those nations clearly have problems

i never said japanese low crime rate is a traditional japanese value. they used to have more military influence.

[HiPointDem]

18. the us also lacks a lot of freedoms, as do europe & japan. not sure what that has to do with

homicide rates in relation to the number of guns per capita.

[JI7]

20. US is closer to europe and japan in the freedoms it has/doesn't have

[HiPointDem]

21. you might be surprised. what kind of freedoms are you thinking of?

[JI7]

22. mostly criticize the Govt , elections

[HiPointDem]

23. chinese can't criticize the government & don't have elections?

[Quantess]

14. This incident is a bigger case for argument for gun control than it is for the NRA.

Thank god he didn't have a gun!!!

[Liberal_in_LA]

19. +1, even little kids have a chance for survival when perp doesn't have gun