did I hear this right today? Joe Scarborough said on Morning Joe that everyone was WRONG

[CTyankee]

when they said the election would be close!

If I recall correctly, he was part of that chorus that said, in grave tones, "It's gonna be REALLY close!"

They were even taking Mittster apart on his being completely out of touch.

Amazin' aint it?

[Turbineguy]

1. OK. Look, you are not playing by the rules.

you are supposed to believe what he says without question. And if he changes what he says, it's only because you misunderstood what he meant before.

[CTyankee]

2. Oh, OK. But today he acted like he NEVER said it before! Wow, how amazing is that?

He must know he has viewers who actually REMEMBER what he said last October...

[Kahuna]

3. The Sunday before the election he was on MTP, lying his butt off about...

how the momentum was with mitt because of the crowds...blah blah blah. I knew he was just spewing because he has a tell when he blatantly lies. He smirks while his eyes become extra beady.

[catbyte]

7. "extra beady"

[octoberlib]

4. I also remember his Twitter feud with Nate Silver during the election.

He kept saying Nates' analysis was off.

[CTyankee]

6. He also had Nate on his show a while back. The guy is incurable.

He acts like there is a Memory Hole where he can just send stuff he said and it's OK...

[Angry Dragon]

5. Why would anyone believe a word that killer joe says??

[Tikki]

18. What else has he lied to us about?

How Joseph Scarborough has any kind of show just amazes me.

Tikki

[Recursion]

8. Every pundit said it, and every pundit was wrong (nt)

[TlalocW]

9. I think I was one of the few confident ones among my liberal & con friends

Mainly because they paid attention to the news, and I read the informative posts here on DU and other sites - not the, "Rah, rah, I feel really great about our chances/I convinced another person to vote for Obama," posts, which are great in their own right. But the ones that talked about individual state polling and how it was breaking.

The news, more than anything, wants it to be a horse race, and they don't care about what the states are saying until election night. Before that it's all national polls - "The candidates are tied at 49% each! There's no way we can know how things are trending! Booga booga booga!" Or they tell us Obama is leading with this sub-group or that sub-group, and Romney has these other sub-groups, etc., and unless the sub-groups are White men, Hispanic/Latinos, women, etc., they don't tell you how significant it is (left-handed rural gay dentists are lining up behind Romney... this could be a game changer).

And while I was confident, I watched with nervousness because I was afraid that they were going to steal it, which is another reason for the media not to pay attention to how individual states are trending...

TlalocW

[CTyankee]

10. I noticed how quietly the Obama campaign observed the polls and had so much confidence that

they were going to win. I didn't know exactly whether they "knew" something or they were just whistling in the dark.

turns out they knew a big thing because they had such a great ground campaign and were technically so proficient (and Romney's was so lame and in denial). But we didn't know all that so it was difficult to perceive what was what.

[Snotcicles]

11. I think Joe Scar is going to make a run for Gov. nt

[CTyankee]

12. of Florida?

[HooptieWagon]

13. Even though Scott is pretty unpopular,

I can't see the RPOF throwing him under the bus and allowing a serious primary challenger.

[CTyankee]

14. Joe seems to have illusions of grandeur, so let it be...

all he talks about is his (brief) tenure in 2 congressional sessions. Pretty lame, it seems to me and then there's that dead intern...

[BigDemVoter]

15. Morning Ho just being Morning Ho. . . .

[Cha]

16. So he was including himself, right? Everyone was WRONG EXCEpT Nate Silver,

Sam Wang, and Drew Linzer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/data-devotees-emerge-victorious-in-election.html?_r=0

[CTyankee]

17. Yeah, Joe DID admit he was wrong, just briefly tho. Then he had Nate on his show and was

acting like he and Nate were big buddies...