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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNRA Is no longer relevant to the debate.
As far as I am concerned, it has forfeited any legitimacy in the discussion of assault weapons with its ridiculous "press conference" and proposals for armed guards in schools as its only contribution. If that's all it has to offer, we should just treat it like the big backyard oak tree, and mow around it.
Our objective now should be to make our elected officials see that it is now irrelevant to the wishes of the people (voters) and make policy that puts the NRA in its well-deserved place in history's trash-can. If they want to bring up some constructive ideas to limit the availability of offensive weapons, we may listen, but they will have to PROVE good faith in doing so. Until they do, they're out.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)but I have little doubt they still own a lot of elected office holders in DC.
as we've seen with the 'debate' on entitlements, the representatives of the people haven't got much interests in representing the interest of the people.
They only good news there is they basically admit to being for sale.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)they do to the cries of terrified children. Only massive and unrelenting public opposition to this craven bunch will overcome the financial stranglehold of the NRA.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)I think the overall opinion of the NRA has fallen quite a bit.
I believe that right now, for at least a brief moment, public outcry has more power than the NRA.
Some change will come. In the end it will amount to nothing more than a band aid for an issue that needs thorough exploratory surgery followed by decades of intensive treatment.
We'll likely get a feel good moment that amounts to next to nothing, while inflaming a huge base for the Republicans that also amounts to next to nothing.
Number23
(24,544 posts)LaPierre sounds as though he has lost his MFing mind. Whatever policy will be created needs to be created AROUND him and his band of delusional fools.
tledford
(917 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...complete with a big FUCK YOU message to LaPierre.
Gun nuts don't seem to be phased by stupidity induced irrelevancy.
Jim Warren
(2,736 posts)that drops $300M in acorns every year.
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_rifle_association/index.html
That'll keep them relevant to elected officials.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)and build the infrastructure to get past them. It would take only one billionnaire to counter-fund the nra's involvement in elections.
this will make them irrelevant. their opinion will no longer matter.
p.s. why are visitors not allowed to carry weapons inside the nra headquarters?
Jim Warren
(2,736 posts)to get money out of politics?
samsingh
(17,601 posts)but NOT more important
getting guns under control is the most important.
Squinch
(51,013 posts)Write politicians who take funds from the NRA and let them know that that in itself is grounds for their losing your vote.
This kind of campaign is destroying the financial backing of Rush and Clear Channel. It could do the same for the NRA.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)a fucking LUNATIC FRINGE GROUP
Jobam
(14 posts)Spryguy
(120 posts)You know, it hasn't struck me before- but why can't Obama start putting NRA members/tea-baggers on the terrorist watch lists? They are all basically anti-progress domestic terrorists; let's see how they like it when they are all on no fly lists!!!!
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)Don't count them out, yet. Don't let your guard down.
NOW is the time to take them out. Completely.
Remember, they represent Gun Sales - they don't represent the rest of the country. But gun sales has lots of money to spend.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)They just convince the gunnuts that they represent them, which they don't. Guns, ammo and money. It's all about profit.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)The NRA used to be about shooting sports. And shooting safety. And outdoor sports in general. It was not until the late 80's that they were commandeered by firearms executives and the RW of the republican party and turned to politics to influence public policy. It's time to take the NRA back.
Disclaimer - I never have been, nor will I be a member of the NRA under it's current leadership and direction. It is likely I will never be a member as I really don't see it changing to any appreciable degree in my lifetime. But the group needs to be reigned in. The current leadership is running the ship recklessly aground threatening current members and innocent bystanders.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)And this being America, money give you a blaring megaphone that can drown out the voice of the people.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)I'm sick of people I helped elect having to deal with pressure from outside groups ran by people that NO ONE elected.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)they are relevant.