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Brownells sold THREE AND A HALF YEARS of 30 round magazines in THREE DAYS (Original Post) DainBramaged Dec 2012 OP
You know the story of Pandora exboyfil Dec 2012 #1
Yeah, all that "we're gonna take all yer guns away" talk is working out OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2012 #2
Prohibition Jim Warren Dec 2012 #3
where is the radical prohibition here? I don't see any, just gun and ammo proliferation wordpix Dec 2012 #26
Actually, that's what radical billh58 Dec 2012 #34
Since I am neither Jim Warren Dec 2012 #40
Only the NRA and billh58 Dec 2012 #41
That is why banning these things will not work. People will always have them. Logical Dec 2012 #4
So? Does that mean we should just give up and not attempt to Laurian Dec 2012 #16
Unless we can repossess them, which I think is illegal, then mass shooters will find a way to.... Logical Dec 2012 #17
It's a question of finding them. dairydog91 Dec 2012 #18
I think you have to pay people for stuff you take from them is they acquired them legally. Logical Dec 2012 #19
Your good intentions don't save lives, I'm afraid. ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #25
We should ban them and the ammo. They can stockpile, but they also can't morningfog Dec 2012 #20
You will never ban ammo. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #21
We can start with the guns. It will reduce the number over time, despiste the paranoia-buying. morningfog Dec 2012 #23
Over the last 4 years the Democratic party has been a god send for gun shops davidn3600 Dec 2012 #5
There are virtually no "assault weapons" and their magazines available for sale right now. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #6
s LiberalMadeline Dec 2012 #33
I hope Brownells have properly documented as to who now owns them Panasonic Dec 2012 #7
Yeah, and I want a pony that shits glitter but it is not going to happen. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2012 #9
And since passing ex post facto laws is strictly prohibited by the Constitution, Brownells is fine. dairydog91 Dec 2012 #11
Don't care. It's is going to be illegal. Panasonic Dec 2012 #12
So? Brownells need not care at this point. dairydog91 Dec 2012 #14
No, but they billh58 Dec 2012 #35
Paraniod hoarders. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #8
You can call them all the dimuitive names you want but OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2012 #10
We start arresting people who is carrying illegally as in semi-automatics and automatic guns Panasonic Dec 2012 #13
Amen blueamy66 Dec 2012 #15
What about legal semi-autos? nt Llewlladdwr Dec 2012 #24
That poster does not believe there should be any semi autos ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #30
"We?" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #42
Continue to call them names. Their paranoia and hate will get the best of them. morningfog Dec 2012 #22
Ban ammo? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #27
The same place that other countries' billh58 Dec 2012 #36
Oh my. They're already preparing for a black market. That's a weird thing to buy, even for Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #28
some of it might be speculators/scalpers/whatever eShirl Dec 2012 #29
I've seen this before and it is an interesting demonstration of capitalism in action ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #31
s LiberalMadeline Dec 2012 #32
Bub bye... billh58 Dec 2012 #37
Oh bill... tavernier Dec 2012 #38
Yep, it's efffed up. A follow up thought might be... 99Forever Dec 2012 #39

billh58

(6,635 posts)
34. Actually, that's what radical
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:41 PM
Dec 2012

NRA worshipers and gun fetishists do. Please explain to us again exactly why people need a lifetime supply of bullets, or multiple guns?

Jim Warren

(2,736 posts)
40. Since I am neither
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:56 PM
Dec 2012

a worshiper nor fetishist of that order, you'll have to look elsewhere for your answer.

One thing made clear though in historical context is large scale prohibitions don't work, whether they be for alcohol or the war on drugs.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
41. Only the NRA and
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:20 AM
Dec 2012

its followers are taking about a "large scale prohibition" of guns. There may be a fringe element who are calling for a total gun ban, but the rational members of our society do not want to repeal the 2nd Amendment. We want to remove semi-automatic, high capacity deadly weapons from the general population, and promote more firearm responsibility. We want to step up enforcement of laws already on the books.

In the interest of accountability and responsibility, we also would like to see legislation aimed at registration and tracking of firearms similar to that required for automobiles, airplanes, and boats. Along those same lines, an insurance requirement for gun ownership would be a good idea as well.

And I agree that the prohibition of alcohol did not work, but I would like to point out that its subsequent regulation and taxation have worked very well, and have been beneficial to the tax income base, and the public interest. This approach also worked well in the reduction of smoking cigarettes in the USA. I also agree that the same approach should be used with recreational drugs.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
16. So? Does that mean we should just give up and not attempt to
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:34 PM
Dec 2012

get some control over the problem? To me, this just means we need to work harder to try to get some action to control guns as soon as possible. Throwing up our hands and saying, "Oh well, guess were too late, the horse is already out of the barn, never mind" is not an option. We've taken that route too many times. Now look where we are....babies being killed in an elementary school.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
17. Unless we can repossess them, which I think is illegal, then mass shooters will find a way to....
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:46 PM
Dec 2012

obtain them.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
18. It's a question of finding them.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:53 PM
Dec 2012

Sure, you can ban possession of a previously-legal item, but with no registration of who owns these items, there's little way to carry out an effective round up.

 

ComplimentarySwine

(515 posts)
25. Your good intentions don't save lives, I'm afraid.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:24 PM
Dec 2012

Your good intentions, the need to do something regardless of effectiveness, has now MASSIVELY increased gun and magazine ownership.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. We should ban them and the ammo. They can stockpile, but they also can't
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:01 PM
Dec 2012

resist firing them. The ammo will deplete, even with the paranoid-buying.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
5. Over the last 4 years the Democratic party has been a god send for gun shops
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dec 2012

A shooting happens. Then all this talk starts up about banning guns and leads to the righties to go out and spend all their money to stockpile more ammo and guns.

Then nothing ever gets passed.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

You would think these gun shops and manufacturers owe us a little kickback.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. There are virtually no "assault weapons" and their magazines available for sale right now.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:36 PM
Dec 2012

Just what some folks wanted, right...?

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
7. I hope Brownells have properly documented as to who now owns them
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:38 PM
Dec 2012

as the magazines will become illegal and with a prison sentence of 10-15 years PER illegal magazine.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
9. Yeah, and I want a pony that shits glitter but it is not going to happen.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:43 PM
Dec 2012

At least not in my lifetime.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
11. And since passing ex post facto laws is strictly prohibited by the Constitution, Brownells is fine.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:15 PM
Dec 2012

If the anonymous sales are legal in the form that they are taking place in now, Congress can't retroactively make those sales illegal.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
12. Don't care. It's is going to be illegal.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:22 PM
Dec 2012

Why do they need 30 round magazines?

Nothing but killing machines that should be out of civilians hands.

Well regulated militias such as Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Marines and the National Guard (and all active) should be the only ones allowed to have these type of magazines.

The civilans has the right to own a shotgun, a musket, a revolver, a bolt-action rifle, a pistol that requires a cock before firing - that is all.

The Founding Fathers did not _INTEND_ for any civilians to own a semi-auto or automatic guns. Only the military should have them.



dairydog91

(951 posts)
14. So? Brownells need not care at this point.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:27 PM
Dec 2012

If Congress did try to retroactively criminalize the way Brownells is selling its magazines at this point, the convictions should be unceremoniously thrown out of court under existing law. Brownells may continue to sell anonymously until this act is illegal.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
10. You can call them all the dimuitive names you want but
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:50 PM
Dec 2012

The reality is that these things are flying off the shelves. Now what are you going to do?

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
13. We start arresting people who is carrying illegally as in semi-automatics and automatic guns
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:23 PM
Dec 2012

Such as Bushmaster .223 - you don't need it.

That is all.

Have a nice Day.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
22. Continue to call them names. Their paranoia and hate will get the best of them.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:05 PM
Dec 2012

The ammo will deplete over time. A ban of the gun and the ammo will dwindle the numbers. Many will be turned in. More will be removed from the streets when associated with crimes.

People's fear and paranoia should not stop us from doing what we must do.

 

ComplimentarySwine

(515 posts)
27. Ban ammo?
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:33 PM
Dec 2012

Where do you think the police and military are going to get ammo after all of the ammo companies are put out of business due to the ban of sales to ordinary citizens?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Oh my. They're already preparing for a black market. That's a weird thing to buy, even for
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:39 PM
Dec 2012

gun lubbers. My brother is a rightwingnut gun lubber. Has a slew of guns. I don't think he has any high count mags. That's an odd thing to buy, when you think about it. Even gun lubbers don't buy 'em.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
39. Yep, it's efffed up. A follow up thought might be...
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:55 PM
Dec 2012

... I wonder how effective those 30 round clips are against drones with missiles?

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