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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBrownells sold THREE AND A HALF YEARS of 30 round magazines in THREE DAYS
JUST heard on CBS while watching 60 minutes between segments.
WTF is wrong with us???
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/ar-15-m16-20-30-round-magazines-prod21225.aspx
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)We are going to reap of bitter harvest.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)Real well.
Jim Warren
(2,736 posts)That's what radical prohibitions do.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)NRA worshipers and gun fetishists do. Please explain to us again exactly why people need a lifetime supply of bullets, or multiple guns?
Jim Warren
(2,736 posts)a worshiper nor fetishist of that order, you'll have to look elsewhere for your answer.
One thing made clear though in historical context is large scale prohibitions don't work, whether they be for alcohol or the war on drugs.
billh58
(6,635 posts)its followers are taking about a "large scale prohibition" of guns. There may be a fringe element who are calling for a total gun ban, but the rational members of our society do not want to repeal the 2nd Amendment. We want to remove semi-automatic, high capacity deadly weapons from the general population, and promote more firearm responsibility. We want to step up enforcement of laws already on the books.
In the interest of accountability and responsibility, we also would like to see legislation aimed at registration and tracking of firearms similar to that required for automobiles, airplanes, and boats. Along those same lines, an insurance requirement for gun ownership would be a good idea as well.
And I agree that the prohibition of alcohol did not work, but I would like to point out that its subsequent regulation and taxation have worked very well, and have been beneficial to the tax income base, and the public interest. This approach also worked well in the reduction of smoking cigarettes in the USA. I also agree that the same approach should be used with recreational drugs.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)get some control over the problem? To me, this just means we need to work harder to try to get some action to control guns as soon as possible. Throwing up our hands and saying, "Oh well, guess were too late, the horse is already out of the barn, never mind" is not an option. We've taken that route too many times. Now look where we are....babies being killed in an elementary school.
Logical
(22,457 posts)obtain them.
dairydog91
(951 posts)Sure, you can ban possession of a previously-legal item, but with no registration of who owns these items, there's little way to carry out an effective round up.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ComplimentarySwine
(515 posts)Your good intentions, the need to do something regardless of effectiveness, has now MASSIVELY increased gun and magazine ownership.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)resist firing them. The ammo will deplete, even with the paranoid-buying.
Logical
(22,457 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)A shooting happens. Then all this talk starts up about banning guns and leads to the righties to go out and spend all their money to stockpile more ammo and guns.
Then nothing ever gets passed.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
You would think these gun shops and manufacturers owe us a little kickback.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Just what some folks wanted, right...?
LiberalMadeline
(8 posts)Haah, waaw. This forum man, entertaining.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)as the magazines will become illegal and with a prison sentence of 10-15 years PER illegal magazine.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)At least not in my lifetime.
dairydog91
(951 posts)If the anonymous sales are legal in the form that they are taking place in now, Congress can't retroactively make those sales illegal.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Why do they need 30 round magazines?
Nothing but killing machines that should be out of civilians hands.
Well regulated militias such as Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Marines and the National Guard (and all active) should be the only ones allowed to have these type of magazines.
The civilans has the right to own a shotgun, a musket, a revolver, a bolt-action rifle, a pistol that requires a cock before firing - that is all.
The Founding Fathers did not _INTEND_ for any civilians to own a semi-auto or automatic guns. Only the military should have them.
dairydog91
(951 posts)If Congress did try to retroactively criminalize the way Brownells is selling its magazines at this point, the convictions should be unceremoniously thrown out of court under existing law. Brownells may continue to sell anonymously until this act is illegal.
billh58
(6,635 posts)can tax and regulate the shit out of them.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Lovely. Watch for the series on A&E.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)The reality is that these things are flying off the shelves. Now what are you going to do?
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Such as Bushmaster .223 - you don't need it.
That is all.
Have a nice Day.
No need for that kind of weapon.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)You gonna volunteer...?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)The ammo will deplete over time. A ban of the gun and the ammo will dwindle the numbers. Many will be turned in. More will be removed from the streets when associated with crimes.
People's fear and paranoia should not stop us from doing what we must do.
ComplimentarySwine
(515 posts)Where do you think the police and military are going to get ammo after all of the ammo companies are put out of business due to the ban of sales to ordinary citizens?
billh58
(6,635 posts)police and military get them.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)gun lubbers. My brother is a rightwingnut gun lubber. Has a slew of guns. I don't think he has any high count mags. That's an odd thing to buy, when you think about it. Even gun lubbers don't buy 'em.
eShirl
(18,503 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)LiberalMadeline
(8 posts)Salesman of the year: Obama
Good on him for making the gun industry that much more profitable.
billh58
(6,635 posts)Hope you enjoyed your short stay with us...
tavernier
(12,401 posts)we don't kick 'em out for sour grapes, do we??
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... I wonder how effective those 30 round clips are against drones with missiles?