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trocar

(243 posts) Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:18 PM Dec 2012

Gun Rights OK? But Voting Rights not so much?

I haven't seen this yet. If the NRA says gun rights are given by the Bill of Rights, aren't voting rights also given by the Constitution? Why all the hurdles to Vote? But continuing reduction of requirements to buy/carry a gun?

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Gun Rights OK? But Voting Rights not so much? (Original Post) trocar Dec 2012 OP

Excellent point riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #1

In some locations etherealtruth Dec 2012 #2

how agorist Dec 2012 #4

I do not believe gun rights trump all others etherealtruth Dec 2012 #5

trocart with 72 posts, please provide links to SCOTUS opinions that held "Voting Rights" are not jody Dec 2012 #3

I might not have been clear trocar Dec 2012 #6

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)

1. Excellent point

Reply to trocar (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:19 PM

Dec 2012

very good. K & R .

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)

2. In some locations

Reply to trocar (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:20 PM

Dec 2012

It certainly appears harder to vote than to buy and carry guns ... but, gun "rights" trump all others

agorist

(5 posts)

4. how

Reply to etherealtruth (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:24 PM

Dec 2012

that statement contradicts itself, all rights are property rights, so then how does the right to own a gun (property) trump all other (property) rights?

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)

5. I do not believe gun rights trump all others

Reply to agorist (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:35 PM

Dec 2012

I do not believe the right to own guns is a human right at all. All rights are not property rights ... perhaps you typed incorrectly ...?

I am mocking the tone of the *gun nuts and the NRA ... how about you?

* I do not refer to those that simply own a gun (or two) for hunting or whatever ...

What are your thoughts on an individuals right to stock pile guns and endanger the public safety? Is the gun nuts right more important than that of the average citizen?

Do guns belong in schools, churches, bars ... ?

Well my second welcome of the evening to a new member .... with what appears to be the same view point ... hmmmmm, interesting.

(on edit: it seems my first welcome went to troll ...posting privileges revoked. .. hmmmm, they made no points, just made their "side" look stupid .... hmmmm)

I am not a prolific poster and I am do not claim to be the most knowledgeable and eloquent poster. Perhaps you can use your time spent here learning.

jody

(26,624 posts)

3. trocart with 72 posts, please provide links to SCOTUS opinions that held "Voting Rights" are not

Reply to trocar (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:21 PM

Dec 2012

protected under our Constitution?

trocar

(243 posts)

6. I might not have been clear

Reply to jody (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:15 PM

Dec 2012

My point was that the Second Amendment up holds the right to bear arms. The 15th Amendment states that no one shall be abridged the right to vote.

It seems like it is becoming harder to vote but easier to buy guns. If they are both rights enumerated in the Constitution why the disparity in the processes?

Also, I don't see voting as a mechanism for mass shootings. And results of voting can be changed. Results of dead is dead

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