Obama Throws Boehner To The Wolves: "You Missed Your Opportunity"-&-“You get nothing”
When Boehner asked Obama if they agree on a deal along the same lines as the one he walked away from during the 2011 talks, according to the paper, Obama retorted: “You missed your opportunity on that.”
Obama’s frustrations grew, and he told Boehner he would rail publicly against the Republicans in the absence of a reasonable compromise. As the Journal reports: Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.
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At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion in tax revenue on the table. What do I get for that?”
“You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.” Also during the talks, as Obama bristled over Boehner’s unwillingness to budge on rates, the paper reports that he snapped: “You’re asking me to accept Mitt Romney’s tax plan. Why would I do that?”
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/23/obama_to_boehner_you_get_nothing_i_get_that_for_free/
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SOURCE: WASHINGTON POST (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/21/the-incredible-shrinking-stimulus/)
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The Third Way will *always* try to make it about the man, rather than the policies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=193458
Obama is temporary. Our problem is that policies don't change from administration to administration. Our problem is that we have a systemic problem of entrenched corporate money and power in Washington, driving policy in both parties. And it just keeps getting worse.
When *Democrats* can look at this filthy deal, the guaranteed outcome of which is more austerity for the masses....when Democrats can look at the obscene offers coming even from our side, which tilt so heavily to the rich as to be laughable...
When Democrats can look at all this....look at the numbers and what will actually HAPPEN as a result of this deal.....and claim victory....
then we have a problem.
We have truly reached the stage of
War is Peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
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Look at the numbers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2055232
$160 billion a year in tax cuts for the top 20%
$42 billion a year in tax cuts for the bottom 40%
clearly a plan that favors the rich
It requires no facts, no stats, no quotes, no sources - only a handy list of anti-Obama talking points that can be regurgitated again and again, repeatedly posted under the guise of being an outspoken concerned citizen.
It also includes the easy out: When Obama doesn't do what the speculatively outraged have predicted he will do, they simply claim credit for having changed his mind by posting their screeds on a political message board.
can't provide one, then you are part of the problem here at DU. Propagandizing isn't advocacy, and it's no substitute for debate. I'll wait over here for a link.---------->>>>>>>>>
Obama volunteered the CPI reduction on SS! It didn't become law yet because Repugs are too stupid to stop at yes. I'm praying it doesn't become law, but it won't be because Obama defends it.
Ideologues, really? I thought I was supporting policies that help workers, didn't know wanting to keep SSI & Medicare intact makes one an ideologue instead?
I don't get it.
They did not account for the fact that we ARE going over the cliff! Now, taxes go up, revenue goes up, and they cannot blame the Dems.
What is so ironic about all this is the Party of Obstruction has gotten obstructed. The Dems only do nothing, and the Bush tax cuts go away!
It was a set-up and they did not see it coming!
$160 billion a year in tax cuts for the top 20%
$42 billion a year in tax cuts for the bottom 40%
clearly a plan that favors the rich
Anyone can make a graph with statistics. At Boston U, I had a class, 'how to lie with statistics'. Where from any government form signed off on by our President does this graph come? Go continue sharpening you knife brutus.
a "blue link" to your own propaganda.
I'll trade you this "blue link": http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022059947
Glenn Beck is just much better at it, as witnessed by the extremely poor showing of the alternatives to Obama in this past election. The far left couldn't manage 1% of the popular vote against him combined. The Roseanne Party, The Jill Stein Party, The Rocky Anderson Party lost in spectacular fashion, and they're pissed, more now than ever. Expect the propaganda to increase, just in time for these groups to cut him off at the knees for the 2014 midterms.
and this is how thoroughly we have been steeped in Third Way propaganda...
that any Democrat can look at these numbers and claim that we are winning or being honestly represented in any way.
Don't forget that this entire process was rigged from the outset to give us austerity.
That is how it BEGAN last spring, and that was the corporatists' goal from the outset: to ensure that austerity and budget slashing are guaranteed as an outcome of this process. That was the purpose of the faux Kabuki Theater debt ceiling Shock Doctrine "crisis" in the first place: to set up a faux crisis and closed door meetings to create a chain of events in which massive budget slashing, or a trigger with slightly less massive budget slashing, were the only possible outcomes.
The ONLY possible outcomes.
It is the stale, familiar, old "lesser of two evils" game by corporatists who own both parties now. Corporate Democrats will ostentatiously withhold a threatened assault on some portion of Social Security or Medicare so that they can point to it and claim to be working hard for us, but the goal all along was to force austerity on America, and they have already guaranteed that.
Look again at the offers from the DEMOCRATIC side, even after we won this election. They are Absurd. They are so heavily tilted to the rich that this could be a Monty Python skit.
We live in a corporate illusion of representative government. Look at the NUMBERS, and tell us that these offers make any sense at all from a party that supposedly won this election by a landslide and that pretends to be representing the people. Nothing from Democrats about cutting the MIC. Nothing about cutting corporate welfare. Nothing about citting the police state. And in a country where Americans overwhelmingly oppose austerity and favor protecting Social Security and Medicare.
It is a travesty. Look at the Offers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2055232
$160 billion a year in tax cuts for the top 20%
$42 billion a year in tax cuts for the bottom 40%
clearly a plan that favors the rich
Sid
and refer to it often. And btw, don't hold your breath waiting for that apology. 
The poster even threw in a little racism just to top things off. It was a good MIRT decision. "Wall Street monkey"? 
I think it's best to stop digging now. And for the record, the asshat wasn't PPR'd "by me". I have absolutely nothing to do with MIRT, nor was I the alerter. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who was offended, but you were certainly the only one to give a great big high five to a racist troll. Happy Holidays.
Bully pulpit much?
