Should we WANT Boehner to be toppled, or not?

[Ken Burch]

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	Yes, we should
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[MADem]

1. What's the downside? That he'll be replaced by a griping scold who is even MORE out of touch with

the American people?

Those clowns in the House are running for reelection continuously. They're forced to keep their ear to the ground. I'll bet they're a bit worried about what they're hearing these days.

[randome]

12. Yes, the more dissension and chaos in the GOP, the better.

[Eric the Reddish]

16. Eric Cantor, second-in-line to the Presidency?

[MADem]

17. No scarier than Tanboy Chainsmoker, Cryer in Chief!

We need to retake the House--the sooner there's crashing and burning on the GOP side, the sooner that will happen!

[Eric the Reddish]

18. Agreed

But Cantor is teanuttier than Boehner.

[MADem]

19. Oh, no doubt--all the better for more people who aren't wired into the

politics of the day to get to know his crazy ass!

[uponit7771]

20. +1

[elleng]

2. Not at all sure this is desirable, from Dem point of view,

but I don't think anyone can or would lead repugs where we want the House to go. Floundering repugs may be in the future for a bit, and it may be Nancy who ends up bringing some sort of House majority into fruition.

[Jack Rabbit]

3. It won't really matter

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Boehner doesn't control the caucus. No matter what he says, the inmates of the GOP insane asylum will do as they please.

If Boehner isn't the Speaker, then Cantor will be. The loonies will still do as they please, but the Speaker will be one of the loonies. That will make the GOP look more more obnoxious than it would under Boehner, but they'll be every bit as obnoxious either way.

The House will not pass anything the Senate will pass or the President will sign.

[HereSince1628]

11. I agree, but I think it's because they all serve the same masters

GOP Congressmen are a likely to push issues and accept boiler plate language from think tanks sponsored by their cherished big donors as any lazy republican in the Wisconsin legislature.

There are literally hundreds of them is DC who function as conduits in that way. Removing Boehner won't change any of that.

[jberryhill]

4. Yes - it makes it easier for us to get 17 votes when we need them

The thing with those "safe districts" like Boehner's is that it is "safe" for Boehner. He's not going to lose a primary to an even nuttier nut. There are plenty of R's from safe but moderate districts who woild improve their "bipartisan" cred by bucking a more extreme speaker.

[IDoMath]

5. Cantor may be worse but...

The act of replacing Boehner will cause chaos in the GOP. They do not deal well with dissension and discord. It could have long term ramifications for the GOP.

[No Vested Interest]

6. I believe Cantor would be more intractable

than Boehner.
Boehner is more of a wheeler-and-dealer. He may be impotent with all those yahoos elected due to improper redistricting, but it makes the President appear (and be) more of a leader, more in command of the situations.
Better to keep Boehner around for a while.

[NBachers]

7. I say "yes," for the gloat factor

[Scootaloo]

8. Their answer is always to go MORE extreme, so, yes

Because whatever replaces Boehner (and I stress, whatever) is going to be even worse at it than he is. Which is a gain for Democrats.

[randome]

13. Agree with that. It's a beautiful train wreck coming!

[LostInAnomie]

9. I would love to see Cantor as speaker...

... for no other reason than the horrible aesthetics. Bohner has his own problems the the orange skin and the smoker's voice, but Cantor is in a whole class of his own that would only serve to make people hate Republicans even more. Every thing about the man drips with a gross phoney quality. The average American will look at him and be reminded of every smug, condescending, self-absorbed, overly-ambitious, back-stabbing, prick boss or co-worker they have ever had.

Just the visceral reaction to him alone will be enough to win back the House.

[Freddie]

10. Canter = horse's gait. Cantor = horse's a**

How to remember to spell his name.

[madrchsod]

14. boehner is`t the problem

it`s the kock bros and their friends that control the rabid right wing that controls boehner. i doubt boehner wants to be remembered as one of the worse leaders of the house but his fate is sealed no matter what he does now.
well... if he resigned maybe history would be kind to him.

[Angry Dragon]

15. what I want to see is the President to STOP negotiating with the weeping boner

[Generic Brad]

21. They need a strong daddy figure

But they do not have any strong daddy figures available. They do have plenty of drunk uncles, criminal cousins, and crazy brother-in-laws though.

[TheKentuckian]

22. Depends on what we are going to do.

If we are going to keep trying to deal Boehner is about as good as we get.

If we are going to go to the mattresses then Canter is more smarmy and hate-able.