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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:37 PM Dec 2012

‘Red Lobster’ company sees steep sales drop after fighting ‘Obamacare’

Darden Restaurants, the company that owns the Red Lobster and Olive Garden chains, saw its net income plunge by 37 percent in the wake of bad publicity about its policies regarding the Affordable Care Act, also known as “Obamacare.” According to the Associated Press, “revamped menus and new ad campaigns” fell flat as the corporate giant failed to attract more diners.

Darden issued a profit warning on Dec. 4, setting off an overall decline in stock value for casual dining restaurants.

According to the AP, “For the period ended Nov. 25, Darden Restaurants Inc. earned $33.6 million, or 26 cents per share. That’s down from $53.7 million, or 40 cents per share, a year ago.”

In its December 4 warning, Darden cited a backlash against its policies regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA) as part of the reason for the sales slump. In October, the company rolled out a business plan that called for more part-time workers rather than face up to the ACA’s requirement that companies should provide health coverage for all full-time workers.

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‘Red Lobster’ company sees steep sales drop after fighting ‘Obamacare’ (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2012 OP
Good Rider3 Dec 2012 #1
Just like The Man Who Thought He Would Be King Atman Dec 2012 #2
Serves them right BainsBane Dec 2012 #3
Good. Now if only Papa John's would go out of business... renie408 Dec 2012 #4
Does anyone know what Papa Murphy's stance is? hogwyld Dec 2012 #17
People named Schnatter and Murphy have No Business Making Pizza! Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #35
You couldn't tell by my local RL and OG. Saturday Dec 2012 #5
What part Trailerparkinsaw . . . another_liberal Dec 2012 #36
xclnt news tj_crackersnatch Dec 2012 #6
Like I GAF lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #7
I used to work for Dead Lob LittleGirl Dec 2012 #8
I Used to be titanicdave Dec 2012 #9
I sent a complaint to Darden xfundy Dec 2012 #10
i think it is a great public service that they let me know i should not go there dembotoz Dec 2012 #11
My thoughts, as well.. TELL us your philosophy and let us see you for what you really are SoCalDem Dec 2012 #24
37%! progressoid Dec 2012 #12
That's what I was gonna say! FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #37
Good! Scurrilous Dec 2012 #13
I would not be sad to see them fail... Phentex Dec 2012 #14
Mediocre but consistent food Aside BlueManFan Dec 2012 #15
Well, their food is nothing great. Wonder why the sales didn't drop before. Jennicut Dec 2012 #16
Couldn't happen to a crappier bunch of restaurants. AllyCat Dec 2012 #18
Dead Lobster. nt stubtoe Dec 2012 #19
Olive Garden could'nt make a decent lasagne. mwooldri Dec 2012 #20
Hear! Hear! another_liberal Dec 2012 #32
Just good ole American capitalism at work here, boys! hamsterjill Dec 2012 #21
Ruby Tuesday's now also has cheddar biscuits. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #23
And you know . . . another_liberal Dec 2012 #29
Why support a business that seems to despise its own workers? TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #22
We don't need no steenkin healthcare - Shouted Typhoid Mary DearAbby Dec 2012 #25
Used to love Red Lobster, but you know what I hate? Kurska Dec 2012 #26
Here's what their Customer Relations peeps sent me Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author bl968 Dec 2012 #40
PR Speak bl968 Dec 2012 #41
Screw Red Lobster and Olive Garden . . . another_liberal Dec 2012 #28
One day these corporate poobah a-holes will realize social media has altered their playing field. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #30
The Social Media have changed EVERYTHING! Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #42
Great way to CYA, don't blame failed executive ideas and policies, blame Obama. Good job! ck4829 Dec 2012 #31
"I will never eat there again." Coyotl Dec 2012 #33
Who the fuck do they think eat at their crappy restaurants? WCGreen Dec 2012 #34
FUCK Darden, NEVER been to a Red Lobster, will NEVER set foot in a Olive Garbage again DainBramaged Dec 2012 #38
Restaurant sales are collapsing soryang Dec 2012 #39

Rider3

(919 posts)
1. Good
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

Although we don't have any Red Lobsters in this area, we do have Olive Gardens. Recently when trying to pick a restaurant, my husband suggested the Olive Garden. I told him why we were NOT going there. He agreed.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
2. Just like The Man Who Thought He Would Be King
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

Meaning, Mr. Romney. Darden execs just couldn't fathom that the rest of America wasn't as hateful and greedy as they were. Kind of makes you wonder what kind of marketing people they have. That is their entire job, to know their customers, and what appeals to them. Epic fail. Not that I care...Red Lobster sucks ass anyway. MMMM...all you can eat farm-raised Chinese tilapia and Vietnamese shrimp. And a basket of bread sticks and salad with a Crate O' Pasta at Olive Garden. I'll pass. Too many real restaurants to enjoy.

hogwyld

(3,436 posts)
17. Does anyone know what Papa Murphy's stance is?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:57 AM
Dec 2012

We've got a couple here in Oregon, but I can't seem to find any information.

Saturday

(3,744 posts)
5. You couldn't tell by my local RL and OG.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:52 PM
Dec 2012

Their parking lots are always full. We havent been there but we have commented on how busy they are as we pass by.

tj_crackersnatch

(82 posts)
6. xclnt news
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:52 PM
Dec 2012

I'd like to get a Dennys salad but I refuse to spend money in their restaurants until they act responsibly towards their employees.

lpbk2713

(42,769 posts)
7. Like I GAF
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:52 PM
Dec 2012



Red Lobster was OK the first few years they started but then they lost their appeal IMO.
I haven't been there in years.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
8. I used to work for Dead Lob
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:54 PM
Dec 2012

30 yrs ago. Yes, I was much younger then and I worked part-time and full time. I was a cook before I turned 21 and a waitress for 3.5 yrs in a couple of their restaurants. No matter if I worked part-time or full time, I always had a choice of buying their health insurance. They also offered sick pay, vacation pay and life insurance (free) to employees. It was a great way to work your way through college back then. You could actually live on the pay. I worked in the kitchen for 5 bucks an hour and averaged about 10 bucks an hour in tips. (I have no idea what they pay now). I used to think their business model was really good. Now, I'm very disappointed to hear them balk about covering employees' health care costs. It's sad.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
9. I Used to be
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

a fairly regular customer of the Red Lobster and occasionally the Olive Garden, but those days are over.......I found a better locally owned and operated seafood restaurant and also an Italian restaurant........so 'bye 'bye Darden

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
10. I sent a complaint to Darden
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:54 PM
Dec 2012

as soon as the news broke. They sent back a boilerplate message that said, blah, blah, blah, ska-rooo you.

A couple weeks ago they sent me another boilerplate message, this one at least trying to sound like they give a F about their employees. Too little, too late.

It's long past time that companies like this one, who are determined to screw you over, come to realize that the policies they promote are not only bad for the nation, but {{horrors!}} also for their bank accounts and those of their greedy-ass investors.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
24. My thoughts, as well.. TELL us your philosophy and let us see you for what you really are
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:21 PM
Dec 2012

We have checked off:
Applebees, Dennys, Red Lobster & Olive Garden...and others just on general principles

We eat out often, but are pretty choosey about where we go, and always try to choose a "local' or small-ish chain over a mega-chain "prepped-food-store"

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
14. I would not be sad to see them fail...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:50 AM
Dec 2012

but it probably has something to do with the economy as well.

I really wanted Chik-fil-a sales to fall fall FALL!

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
15. Mediocre but consistent food Aside
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:48 AM
Dec 2012

I stopped patronizing both when they went wingnut on Obamacare. I'm a firm believer in voting with your wallet so I will NEVER EVER eat a Pap Jerk's or Domino's pizza. Also didn't renew my Sam's club memeber ship and drive an hour to Costco now. I have a list of Cock brothers products on my Iphone so when I shop I don't give these fuckers a nickel. I am glad to see that I am a part of something that is working. I AM THE 47%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
16. Well, their food is nothing great. Wonder why the sales didn't drop before.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:53 AM
Dec 2012

When you serve so-so food, why bring bad publicity to yourself by bad mouthing Obamacare? Not smart business sense.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
20. Olive Garden could'nt make a decent lasagne.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
Dec 2012

It has been the overriding memory - me being the naive Englishman asked my then girlfriend for a good Italian restaurant. She mentioned "Olive Garden". Proposal made and she did say yes... But that lasagne that place made was utter crap. I even tried it a few years later and it was still crap. When Golden Corral make a better lasagne than Olive Garden then they have a serious food problem. With Darden it isn't an issue of ObamaCare or part time vs full time... It is their business model, their menu, and the management not inspiring their employees.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
21. Just good ole American capitalism at work here, boys!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:15 PM
Dec 2012

I don't like your politics...I don't have to pay for your cheddar bay biscuits.

Your recipe is all over the internet anyway.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
25. We don't need no steenkin healthcare - Shouted Typhoid Mary
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:29 PM
Dec 2012

and they wonder why there was a backlash? I don't patronize establishments who treat their employees poorly.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
26. Used to love Red Lobster, but you know what I hate?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:34 PM
Dec 2012

Assholes who treat their employees like shit and think they will still get my money.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. Here's what their Customer Relations peeps sent me
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
Dec 2012

in response to my Nastygram: (It took them 2 weeks to get this reply out.)

Dear Jackpine,

Thank you for your interest in Olive Garden.

We welcome the chance to share some facts with you. None of Darden’s current full-time employees, hourly or salaried, will have their full-time status changed as a result of healthcare reform.

In addition, when healthcare reform takes effect in 2014, all of Darden’s full-time employees, including hourly, salaried and executive employees, will have access to the same insurance plan coverage. It is very important that we are able to make these commitments to our full-time employees. We hope this helps clarify our position.

We appreciate the time you took to write to us. If Guest Relations can be of further assistance, please reply to this email or write us again through our website at www.olivegarden.com.

Sincerely,

Lidia
Olive Garden Guest Relations

Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #27)

bl968

(360 posts)
41. PR Speak
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:13 AM
Dec 2012

Translation: We will have a list of other justifications as to why we are moving these employees from full time to part time status in order to work around the law.

Solution: Obama should enact a rules change switching the coverage mandate from total number of individual employee hours worked, to total number of employees at a company... Problem solved

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
28. Screw Red Lobster and Olive Garden . . .
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:25 PM
Dec 2012

Screw "Red Lobster" and screw "Olive Garden," and screw the tightwad moneybags who run "Darden Restaurants!"

Their kind of filthy rich scumsuckers are always going to lose when the people have access to the truth. They can hire all the third-rate, part-time, no benefits, soon-to-leave-for-better-jobs type of staff they want, but they will lose customers and money at an ever-increasing rate if they do. Serves them right, the stupid assholes!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
30. One day these corporate poobah a-holes will realize social media has altered their playing field.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:29 PM
Dec 2012

They are used to operating in a vacuum of greed. Times have changed. F@#$ them.

ck4829

(35,094 posts)
31. Great way to CYA, don't blame failed executive ideas and policies, blame Obama. Good job!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:30 PM
Dec 2012

If I worked at one of their places, I'd be putting out my resume because you know they'd turn on you just as fast as they blamed Obama.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
33. "I will never eat there again."
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:31 PM
Dec 2012

I said that the last time, when they poisoned me and my family with something.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
39. Restaurant sales are collapsing
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:29 PM
Dec 2012

wholesale suppliers are in freefall right now. full time drivers have been working part time for weeks now. I'm talking about restaurants not fast food.

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