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In Truth We Trust

(3,117 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:10 PM Dec 2012

Strike back against the fascism. Hands OFF Social Security! It is self funded. Boycott! Protest!

Stop pretending that Dems and Repubs work for us. They are not on our side. The entrenched Dems are not on our side. The republicans certainly are not on our side. They each play a cynical game of good cop/bad cop and sell out the working class/middle class every time they enact any legislation.

I propose a preemptive strike that they will have to eventually listen to. Learn from Ghandi. Learn from MLK.Learn from 60's so called radicalism. Learn from Occupy. Learn from the Arab Spring. Boycott!

Boycott a major oil co. Boycott a major bank. Boycott a major telco. Boycott BP! Boycott B of A! Boycott Verizon. Pick one major company in several vertical markets and make them feel our pain. Continue to boycott until they bleed.

Any and every potentially sympathetic organization should be marshaled to spread the word and actively support. Unions. Sierra Club. AARP. Childrens Defense Fund. ACLU. NOW. MoveOn. Greens. Socialists. Common Cause. Congressional Progressive Caucus. Congressional Black caucus.

I must say though, as much as I know this could be effective if embraced widely, the problems of lack of majority representation stems from the coup in 2k and the subsequent HAVA which cemented their stranglehold on sustaining the status quo. There MUST be a return to hand counted paper ballots which is ultimately the only way they will be held accountable for their actions. Now it is rigged and they can continue their fascism unchecked.

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Strike back against the fascism. Hands OFF Social Security! It is self funded. Boycott! Protest! (Original Post) In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 OP
I will not vote for or support any Democrats if they cut Social Secuirty or Medicare. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #1
Neither will I! Fuck any one that can support hitting social security! In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #2
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #3
The hand to mouth existence of Social Security has finally met its match customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #4
Soc. Sec is SELF FUNDED! It does NOT add to the debt! Tax the rich who have had a free ride! In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #5
In fact, it's recently contributed to the debt customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #8
Fascism? Okay, now that's getting a little carried away. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #6
The structure of fascism is the union, marriage, merger or fusion of corporate economic power with In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #7

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. I will not vote for or support any Democrats if they cut Social Secuirty or Medicare.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
Dec 2012

I've contacted my representative.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. The hand to mouth existence of Social Security has finally met its match
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:05 PM
Dec 2012

Since the Great Recession, more has been going out than has been coming in. Until we get a rip-roaring economy, I don't see that reversing.

It's going to take a lot of changes, including FICA tax increases and cap raises to keep the thing afloat for the rest of the baby boom retirement years. Chained CPI is only one tool that's going to be needed for this project. I understand that the current discussion focuses only on chained CPI, and that's why I'm against it at this point, it needs to be part of a comprehensive package to deal with what's coming.

As for the so-called Social Security Trust Fund, the only ways to redeem those securities are Federal budget surpluses, replacing them with other borrowings, or inflating the currency. There is no other way to cash them in.

In Truth We Trust

(3,117 posts)
5. Soc. Sec is SELF FUNDED! It does NOT add to the debt! Tax the rich who have had a free ride!
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:22 PM
Dec 2012

Tax capital gains and add a transaction tax n trades. break up monopolies. Cut the MIC budget and get the fuck out of bullshit wars andco called foreign aid which is really just funneled back to the connected corps. tax offshoring and imports. I could balance the budget in a heartbeat if we enacted true progressive change.

Do not shill for the rich!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. In fact, it's recently contributed to the debt
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:49 PM
Dec 2012

First, the money appropriated to make up for the nonsense of the soon-to-expire "tax holiday" came from the general budget, which as we all know is financed one-third by borrowing. Also, the accounting needed to have interest paid to the Trust Fund came from the same source. It was the only way to avoid having to redeem the specialized securities the Trust Fund holds.

Yes, there are a lot of things we should be doing to get our budget house in order, and I'm all for taxing the rich and cutting spending on no-win wars. But that's just a start, and we need to get full control of both houses of Congress to do that. I doubt even then it will be possible, we sure didn't do that when we had the power from 2009-2010.

In Truth We Trust

(3,117 posts)
7. The structure of fascism is the union, marriage, merger or fusion of corporate economic power with
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:29 PM
Dec 2012

governmental power.
Edit to add link and content:
Other notable characteristics of fascism described by Britt which are directly produced by corporatism are:

< The suppression of organized labor (organized labor is the bane of corporations and the only real check on corporate power other than government or the legal system);

< Supremacy of the military (it is necessary to produce and protect corporate profits abroad and threats from abroad);

< Cronyism and governmental corruption (it is very beneficial to have ex-corporate employees run the agencies or make the laws that are supposed to regulate or check corporations);

< Fraudulent elections (especially those where corporations run the machinery of elections and count the votes or where judges decide their outcomes);

< Nationalism (disdain for other countries that might promote individual rights);

< Obsession with national security (anti-corporatists are a security risk to the corporate status quo);

< Control of the media (propaganda works);

< Obsession with crime and punishment (anti-corporatists belong in jail); and

< Disdain for intellectuals and the arts (these people see corporatism for what it is and are highly individualistic).

All of these characteristics have a fairly obvious corporate component to them or produce a fairly obvious corporate benefit. Even Britt’s last two characteristics, the merger of state with the dominant religion and rampant suppression of divorce, abortion and homosexuality produce at least some indirect corporate benefit.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7260.htm

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