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The Straight Story

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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:26 PM Dec 2012

NRA says it is 'prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens agai

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NRA says it is 'prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens agai (Original Post) The Straight Story Dec 2012 OP
We're about to see just how "shocked and hearbroken" they really are. So far, the ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #1
so it only took 4 days for them to come up quinnox Dec 2012 #2
They also announced a press conference for Friday. eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #4
+1 treestar Dec 2012 #30
Pony up reteachinwi Dec 2012 #34
So what? Marinedem Dec 2012 #37
How about giving us a list of your members for a full psychological evaluation paid by the NRA Panasonic Dec 2012 #3
I second the motion AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #46
Here's a contribution: PCIntern Dec 2012 #5
A 100% armed society is their goal HockeyMom Dec 2012 #7
They advocate, among other things, PCIntern Dec 2012 #11
Priceless. k2qb3 Dec 2012 #20
I swear Marinedem Dec 2012 #38
People wrongly focus on the Teflon. It's the brass and steel core that improves penetration. tclambert Dec 2012 #45
Wow. What does teflon do to a bullet that makes it easier to kill cops? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #39
They can start by saying they've been wrong for years. SheilaT Dec 2012 #6
^This. EOTE Dec 2012 #12
You guys seem to be reading a whole lot into that small statement... ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #40
I never suggested they've got the best intentions. EOTE Dec 2012 #44
Like the killer who says "I'm so sorry," meaning ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #8
It's more like the killer that says COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #36
Kinda like an arsonist offering to help put out the fire he started. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #9
perfect analogy quinnox Dec 2012 #14
So they're basically saying: "This madness has gone on for just long enough!". EOTE Dec 2012 #10
They're scrambling like hell. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #13
they may have been waiting to see whether the outrage would fade away as it always does... renate Dec 2012 #23
I see the fucking cowards crawled out malaise Dec 2012 #15
They will do as little as possible to make this disappear. They need to have their assets frozen graham4anything Dec 2012 #16
Here's a meaningful contribution: JHB Dec 2012 #17
Nah, that won't work. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #21
As I said, a meaningful contribution JHB Dec 2012 #25
The only "meaningful contribution" I want from the NRA is sufrommich Dec 2012 #18
Probably a 10% discount to all teachers! And free lessons from Nugent! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #19
Their meaningful contribution? I predict the following RomneyLies Dec 2012 #22
So they will be donating guns to teachers I presume? That's their only contribution so far. denverbill Dec 2012 #24
I have given up on them completly Glassunion Dec 2012 #26
I say keep kicking. They're down, let's keep 'em from getting back up. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #27
10% off all guns for kindergardeners n/t Enrique Dec 2012 #28
"Uh, sorry we're such blood-soaked scumbags!" villager Dec 2012 #29
Free pistol, 100 rounds, and training the summer before a child enters kindergarten. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #31
With points for a bulletproof backpack in the frequent flyer program jsr Dec 2012 #33
Hmmm, make teachers work for less and require them louis-t Dec 2012 #32
meaningful contributions = more money to pro-gun legislators frylock Dec 2012 #35
Bingo Dinero We have a Winner!!! slampoet Dec 2012 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #42
link spanone Dec 2012 #43
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
1. We're about to see just how "shocked and hearbroken" they really are. So far, the
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:28 PM
Dec 2012

teabaggers I've seen spouting off their crap have not to a single one seemed to have been moved from their assholishness by this horrific tragedy.

Edited: I changed "Rs" to "teabaggers" because I have actually seen some republicans saying something needs to be done. It's the extreme assholes like Chaffetz & Co. who are still spewing their stinking shit.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. so it only took 4 days for them to come up
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

with this.

The best thing the NRA can do is disband and apologize for their enabling of this kind of gun crazed culture.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
3. How about giving us a list of your members for a full psychological evaluation paid by the NRA
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

If they are deemed nuts, then the NRA member needs to resign and turn over all his weapons.

PCIntern

(25,598 posts)
5. Here's a contribution:
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:31 PM
Dec 2012

go can go and fuck yourselves, you advocates of cop-killer teflon-coated bullets. Fuckers that you are.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
7. A 100% armed society is their goal
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:34 PM
Dec 2012

NRA has set out to achieve that. They won't be happy until every adult citizen is armed. 2nd Amendment "rights" or DUTY?

PCIntern

(25,598 posts)
11. They advocate, among other things,
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:38 PM
Dec 2012

cop-killing bullets! Teflon coated bullets have one purpose: to penetrate vests designed to stop bullets and other missiles.

Every law enforcement officer and executive in the USA should be calling for their demise as an organization.

 

Marinedem

(373 posts)
38. I swear
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:32 PM
Dec 2012

If you can articulate to me what a Teflon coated bullet is and explain how it penetrates a vest, with sources, I will take a band-saw to every gun I own, post pics, and leave this site forever.


tclambert

(11,087 posts)
45. People wrongly focus on the Teflon. It's the brass and steel core that improves penetration.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:45 PM
Dec 2012

The Teflon coating was added to reduce wear on gun barrels. It apparently aids in penetration of glass and metal, but actually decreases the bullet's ability to penetrate body armor.

Coating a regular bullet with Teflon . . . well, that's just stupid. But steel-core rounds, like those sold by KTW, need the coating so they don't wreck the gun barrel. Originally, KTW developed these bullets to help law enforcement, to give them ammunition that could more easily penetrate windshields and car doors.

 

ComplimentarySwine

(515 posts)
39. Wow. What does teflon do to a bullet that makes it easier to kill cops?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:57 PM
Dec 2012

It seems like lead is the major killer with bullets, not teflon.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. They can start by saying they've been wrong for years.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:34 PM
Dec 2012

That they have materially contributed to the culture and mind-set that allows these kinds of things. That they will from now on use all of their money for a gun buy-back.

They will offer free training in gun safety, underwrite the cost of good gun safes and gun locks.

There must be more, but that's just what comes to mind at the moment.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
12. ^This.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

By saying that they need to change, they're in effect saying they've been wrong all along. They need to own up to that, at the very least.

 

ComplimentarySwine

(515 posts)
40. You guys seem to be reading a whole lot into that small statement...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:00 PM
Dec 2012

...what if their meaningful contribution is a proposed law that would make it legal for teachers to have guns?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
44. I never suggested they've got the best intentions.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:27 AM
Dec 2012

I hope they do, but in my comment below, I state my apprehensions. But I do think it's very important for the NRA to finally admit that they've been very wrong all these years, and numerous tragedies were the result.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
10. So they're basically saying: "This madness has gone on for just long enough!".
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:37 PM
Dec 2012

The countless other tragedies weren't enough? Fuck, at least it's something. As to whether or not they actually mean those words or if it's just words thrown out to appease the public, I guess we'll have to wait and see. If the NRA is actually willing to do something to curb violence rather than exacerbate it like they have in the past, then they should be commended.

lpbk2713

(42,769 posts)
13. They're scrambling like hell.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012



They know their image is lower than whale shit and they are in a panic trying to
pull something positive out of a desperate situation. This should be interesting.

renate

(13,776 posts)
23. they may have been waiting to see whether the outrage would fade away as it always does...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:49 PM
Dec 2012

... not this time.

They probably are actually willing to do something this time. I think this is sort of like the way abortion finally became an undirty word for the Democrats in the last election because the antiabortion nuts were so over-the-top offensive. At last, politicians on both sides are proud, not scared, to talk about preventing gun violence. This discussion should be interesting in a very similar way to the abortion-rights issue, only with 20 dead innocent children and 6 dead heroic adults it will be even more profound. There is really no way to stand behind the universal right to own assault rifles the way that the religious right stood behind their beliefs about abortion.

malaise

(269,210 posts)
15. I see the fucking cowards crawled out
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:42 PM
Dec 2012

Keep up the pressure America!!! Bring them to their knees. Voters already showed them last month that all the money in the world can be defeated.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
17. Here's a meaningful contribution:
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:43 PM
Dec 2012

Tell your membership that the president is not a "gun grabber", not a "radical leftist", and that the paranoia that they've helped foster for the past few years is toxic to the entire country.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
22. Their meaningful contribution? I predict the following
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:47 PM
Dec 2012

Ban video games, espeically ones where you shoot up zombies because zombies are so realistic.
Ban Hollywood movies, especially where they shoot up zombies because zombies are so realistic.
Pay lip service to mental health services.
MOAR GUNZ!!

Oh, and because freedom.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
26. I have given up on them completly
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:51 PM
Dec 2012

They just want a seat at the table so they can fuck ANY progress and hope this all blows over.

It ain't blowing over!

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
29. "Uh, sorry we're such blood-soaked scumbags!"
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

Uh huh. Yeah, let's see what you can do that's "meaningful" now, NRA.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
31. Free pistol, 100 rounds, and training the summer before a child enters kindergarten.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dec 2012

Seems sensible.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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