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superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:25 PM Dec 2012

Plot to castrate, kill Justin Bieber foiled!

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/cops-nm-men-plotted-to-kill-bieber




Investigators say two would-be hit men from Albuquerque may have had their sights set on the teen mega star; Justin Bieber.

They had it planned down to the ties they were going to use to strangle to the pop star and three other people. A warning, the details are pretty graphic.

Justin Bieber played for a sold out house just a few weeks at Madison Square Garden in New York City.

That’s where investigators say Mark Staake and his nephew Tanner Ruane planned to take down the teen sensation.

Turns out their Bieber fever started long ago, at the state prison near Las Cruces.

That’s where Staake met Dana Martin, a convicted killer serving two life sentences for raping and killing a 15-year-old girl in Vermont, in 2000.

Martin recruited Staake who in turn recruited his nephew to carry out four murders after Staake got out of prison. Cops say Martin asked the two to first go to Vermont and take out two former acquaintances.

He gave strict orders to strangle the victims with a paisley tie, the kind Martin used as his calling card, and here is where things get grisly.

Tanner Ruane was in charge of castrating the victims.

Martin told cops there was a bigger plot, the murder and castration of Bieber and his bodyguard. Turns out Martin is obsessed with Bieber and KRQE News 13 has learned he's even got a tattoo of the superstar on his leg.

Staake was arrested in Vermont on outstanding warrants before carrying out any of the killings, but his nephew was let go.

Cops recorded phone calls where Ruane, who made it to New York, tells Martin he's disappointed he couldn't carry out the murders.

New York police arrested Ruane, who had murder tools and pruning shears with him.

KRQE News 13 tried to contact Justin Bieber's representatives Tuesday, but did not get a call back.

Martin actually turned in Staake and Ruane and for some mysterious reason foiled the plot he cooked up.


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Plot to castrate, kill Justin Bieber foiled! (Original Post) superpatriotman Dec 2012 OP
There are so many responses I could make to this post tularetom Dec 2012 #1
I know Warren Religion Dec 2012 #25
What do people have against this poor kid! Cleita Dec 2012 #2
who is obviously a target for pederasts. BainsBane Dec 2012 #4
I think I have posted this here before, murielm99 Dec 2012 #6
That makes some sense. It's too bad human nature Cleita Dec 2012 #9
He's a talentless hack who can't sing. white_wolf Dec 2012 #28
Which justifies rabid hate? bhikkhu Dec 2012 #30
I don't hate him at all, but he is a hack who can't sing. white_wolf Dec 2012 #32
I was unable to find any quote of Justin Beiber saying anything like that bhikkhu Dec 2012 #42
He's not talentless. He's talented enough to become famous Cleita Dec 2012 #43
Well, yeah, but does that mean he should be castrated? Inspired Dec 2012 #51
Of course not! You shouldn't even joke about that. white_wolf Dec 2012 #52
Well, I do know now why my parents liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #45
He's still a kid. When he grows up to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, then we'll talk. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #48
Not, repeat: *NOT* a Belieber Bucky Dec 2012 #3
The way he sings I thought he was already castrated DJ13 Dec 2012 #5
they left the job half done dembotoz Dec 2012 #13
Justin Bieber Found To Be Cleverly Disguised 51-Year-Old Pedophile slackmaster Dec 2012 #7
Will no one rid me of this meddlesome Biebst? pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #8
He's like some weird kind of aphrodisiac that makes teen girls scream and others graywarrior Dec 2012 #10
One Direction even more. ErikJ Dec 2012 #15
Just plain f'n weird. graywarrior Dec 2012 #16
Yeah but it's not like this kind of thing started with the Biebster... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #23
Lots of people hated the Beatles, too. lob1 Dec 2012 #33
The Antmen hated them graywarrior Dec 2012 #44
See my #35 JHB Dec 2012 #36
OMG, does that bring back liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #46
Minus the "kill him", those are the same words my father said about Leif Garrett... JHB Dec 2012 #35
The hate against this kid is off the charts ridiculous. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #11
Neither do I. Never have. frogmarch Dec 2012 #14
I don't get it either. NealK Dec 2012 #19
True. Coincidentally, I just lectured my daughter a bit on giving him a break bhikkhu Dec 2012 #29
I call it "hate the pretty boy syndrome." MicaelS Dec 2012 #53
Yeah but this seems to go beyond that. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #54
He has bedroom eyes. nt ErikJ Dec 2012 #12
And how were they expecting to carry out this plot? -..__... Dec 2012 #17
Well that guy doesn't look too bright. NealK Dec 2012 #20
Is that Justin Bieber? ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2012 #40
Yes. nt NCTraveler Dec 2012 #47
I realize everybody's tempted to throw in a Bieber joke or two Bake Dec 2012 #18
+1 nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #37
My thoughts exactly. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #39
I mean, he can't help it ... it's not his fault that he's just so cute Bake Dec 2012 #50
No Bieber fan, but any jokes about this are not funny. edbermac Dec 2012 #21
Agreed. +1 Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #22
Thank you. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #26
So, he hates Bieber or something else? Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #24
That's Scary. dballance Dec 2012 #27
Pruning shears... damn. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #31
don't much care for that kind of music njcamden_25884 Dec 2012 #34
The "mastermind" is already serving double life. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #38
When your life is so pointless that you obsess over Justin Bieber and plan to kill him ... Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #41
Re-read the OP. The main guy behind this is already serving life for murder. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #55
Have any of you read his autobiography ? zellie Dec 2012 #49

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
6. I think I have posted this here before,
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:19 PM
Dec 2012

but I have an Aussie friend who calls this "tall poppy syndrome."

The kid is cute, successful, and the girls love him. He has dared to hold his head higher than the other poppies in the field, so someone feels compelled cut him down.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
28. He's a talentless hack who can't sing.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:42 AM
Dec 2012

And he's arrogant enough to think he has contributed more to music than the Beatles.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
30. Which justifies rabid hate?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:56 AM
Dec 2012

If I don't like a performer's work I ignore it. Why call a kid a "talentless hack who can't sing?" I'm not a fan myself, but I believe Justin Beiber developed a following based on people liking how he sang.

In any case, hating to the point of wanting to mutilate and murder is about as pathological as it gets, and likely has nothing to do with singing ability.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
32. I don't hate him at all, but he is a hack who can't sing.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:10 AM
Dec 2012

That's why I don't like him. That and like I said any 18 year old kid who says he has contributed more to music than the Beatles deserves to get made fun of. Most people don't like arrogant celebrities. However, none of what I says justifies even joking about killing the kid, but I was replying to the general question of why he is so strongly disliked by a lot of people. He's kind of like the Twilight of singers. Soulless drivel meant to appeal to pre-teen and teenage girls that is given far too much popularity.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
42. I was unable to find any quote of Justin Beiber saying anything like that
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:09 AM
Dec 2012

...so I wonder if its not like so many things Obama is supposed to have said, which evaporate into mazes of hysterical RW slander when you look for facts?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
43. He's not talentless. He's talented enough to become famous
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:10 PM
Dec 2012

and have a following. That's a talent in itself. That doesn't justify killing him in any book. He's an entertainer! He hasn't harmed anyone in his short life.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
52. Of course not! You shouldn't even joke about that.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:44 PM
Dec 2012

I wasn't trying to justify that or any of the jokes made about it. Someone asked why the guy is so disliked in general and I gave my opinion on why so many people seem annoyed by him.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
45. Well, I do know now why my parents
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:56 PM
Dec 2012

would sigh and roll their eyes whenever my same-age stepsister and I would go gaga over Shaun Cassidy, our generation's version of Bieber. And I'm sure that twenty-thirty years from now Bieber's legions will find themselves feeling the same way.

Then again, this is the brat who wanted MN Sen. Amy Klobuchar jailed for proposing some law or policy he disgreed with (can't remember what it was now), slimy little fascist snot who can't even sing.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
10. He's like some weird kind of aphrodisiac that makes teen girls scream and others
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:28 PM
Dec 2012

want to punch him in the face or kill him.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. One Direction even more.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:31 PM
Dec 2012

Tickets sold out for their show here one year in advance for $400 each up front.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
33. Lots of people hated the Beatles, too.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:18 AM
Dec 2012

I'm NOT putting Bieber in the same talent category as the Beatles. Just the senseless hate part.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
36. See my #35
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:37 AM
Dec 2012

"Look at that punk. Doesn't he have a face you just want to punch?" --JHB's dad, circa 1977

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
46. OMG, does that bring back
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:01 PM
Dec 2012

memories for this late-forties-something gal, lol! There were several years when I lived for that magazine and Cassidy, Garret, Parker Stevenson, Wesley Eure, etc., etc. Gads, I cringe to think of it now, lol. I remember seeing Cassidy in concert in '77, when he was on the Hardy Boys; you could barely hear him through all the screaming, which my stepsis and I were, of course, contributing to. lol.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
35. Minus the "kill him", those are the same words my father said about Leif Garrett...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:34 AM
Dec 2012

...back when he was gazing out from the covers of my sister's copies of Tiger Beat.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
11. The hate against this kid is off the charts ridiculous.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:28 PM
Dec 2012

He's just a pop singer, not a terrorist, not a rapist, not a fucking politician. He sings songs for his prepubescent audience and everyone wants to kill him, literally.

I don't get it.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
29. True. Coincidentally, I just lectured my daughter a bit on giving him a break
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:45 AM
Dec 2012

as there's a vein of hate running through the schools over him too. A girl in her school is going to see one of his concerts and has been picked on. Mine seemed to be buying into the gang mentality and arguing that it was perfectly natural...ugh, teenagers. At least she's at an age where she still can learn, and still cares about being on the "good" side.

She played me one of his songs on youtube, as I don't know his music. He has a well trained voice, a sweetness and innocence. Why that brings out the worst in some people I don't get either.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
53. I call it "hate the pretty boy syndrome."
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

As far back as I remember, people have always been attacking verbally and in print, whomever is the current "teen heartthrob" popular with adolescent and teenage girls. I remember it with Elvis, then The Beatles and continues to this day. Probably goes further back than that, to a young Frank Sinatra, or even further.

I think it's just jealousy and hatred of someone who is popular with nubile females. Lots of unspoken undercurrents of "Oh my god, these girls are just going crazy over this guy, and that must mean they want to have sex with him!"

Look at how some people are obsessing over the "Twilight" novels. Novels aimed at nubile females seem to attract a great deal of disdain.

And I use the term "nubile" deliberate, as in this context.

Nubile

Nubile refers to a young woman who is ready or suitable for marriage by virtue of her age or maturity. Since at least 1973, it has also been used to refer to a sexually attractive young woman.
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
54. Yeah but this seems to go beyond that.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:19 PM
Dec 2012

I remember when I was 14 all the girls had pictures of Matt Dillon and Rob Lowe and so on and would swoon over them and we (the boys) "hated" them (the stars) for it. We would disparage them and all but no one openly wished for their deaths.

It wasn't the sort of vicious hatred that is directed at this Bieber kid. It's not limited to what would be his sexual rivals. I see adults and kids alike savaging him on Facebook, saying the worst possible things and salivating over the notion of his torture and death. It's beyond anything I've ever seen and I just don't get that.

I've never listened to any of his music but I'm sure he can't be that bad of a singer.

I hope he has a good security team because the hate is out of hand.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
17. And how were they expecting to carry out this plot?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

The kid probably has Pope level security detail/body guards surrounding him 24/7/365.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
18. I realize everybody's tempted to throw in a Bieber joke or two
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:02 PM
Dec 2012

But seriously, these guys wanted to KILL the kid. That's awful. Could we just maybe, maybe refrain from the jokes in this thread? Feel free to start another one just for Bieber jokes ...



Bake

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
39. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:17 AM
Dec 2012

I'm no Bieber fan, and I've cracked plenty of jokes at his expense, but killing him is a wee bit out of line.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
50. I mean, he can't help it ... it's not his fault that he's just so cute
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:32 PM
Dec 2012

that middle aged women swoon over him ...

LEAVE JUSTIN ALONE!!!!!!



Bake

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Thank you.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:33 AM
Dec 2012

I started reading some of the replies to this thread and was like "fucking what, where the hell am I? The URL says it's DU..."

These guys wanted to kill and maim a kid. And this is funny?!

Fucking unbelievable.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
27. That's Scary.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:36 AM
Dec 2012

I'm so old I don't know a thing about Bieber but he's probably no worse than any pop star when I was a teen in the '80s. Or, say, the Beetles in the '60s.

He most certainly does not deserve to have some sort of hit squad trying to murder him.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
38. The "mastermind" is already serving double life.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:52 AM
Dec 2012

But the others are probably looking at some serious time as well. One would hope anyway.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
41. When your life is so pointless that you obsess over Justin Bieber and plan to kill him ...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:38 AM
Dec 2012

why go on? You need to do yourself a favor and commit suicide instead.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
55. Re-read the OP. The main guy behind this is already serving life for murder.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:53 AM
Dec 2012

I imagine he has quite a lot of time on his hands, to say the least...

 

zellie

(437 posts)
49. Have any of you read his autobiography ?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:25 PM
Dec 2012

The years of working at the bottom?

The years of failure.

The kid has had a tough life.

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