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On "The Cycle" a few minutes ago, she displayed her Christmas card: a couple of photos of her in camo. and the small black bear she bagged. I CAN'T STAND THIS WOMAN!
Edit: grammar
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)ever!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)Venison, I can see. If people eat what they kill, okay. But I don't think people eat bear these days.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)You can't tell me she killed the bear to eat it. No, she's a Palin wannabe.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)that she didn't eat (or possibly donate) the meat, there are plenty of things to castigate her for without making things up.
Berserker
(3,419 posts)and eat bear. In 2011 Wisconsin bear hunters killed 4,257 black bears.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)It's quite tasty.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...eaten and considered as good as pork or beef. Just have to make sure the meat is cooked thoroughly to avoid trichinosis.
But, having said that, what's the point in hunting bears for any reason? and who the heck cares what S. E. Cupp does in her personal time? I personally can't stand her and change the channel whenever her face fills the screen.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)I'd never do it again.
The meat was almost inedible. I wound up giving most of it away.
The bearskin is still on the wall in my shop after my wife refused to allow it anywhere in the house.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Oops...sorry. I thought you were doing the old Groucho Marx line, "I shot a bear once in my pajamas....What he was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know..."
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)A very rich meat, but good in summer sausage form. A coworker brings in a platter every winter around Christmas after he has his bear processed.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)Yuck!
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I think that is how it is spelled.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)The finest pizza you will ever eat is made with fresh homemade mozzarella, heirloom tomatoes, kalamata olives and bear pepperoni. It's very fatty if you kill it in fall bear season so it's probably the finest sausage meat there is.
Spring bears have very little fat so they produce lean steaks and chops.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)can other organs.
The paws, I've read, were considered delicacies by Native Americans, on the other hand.
petronius
(26,602 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)and he said it was tender and delicious.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)But that was when Black bears were much more common, and were a source of fur.
alp227
(32,032 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)who blows up frogs for fun.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)where she is skinning the bear. It can be found on the web.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Black bears aren't spectacular enough to trophy hunt. Imagine a Newfoundland with an Irish setter's head on it. People will do fur-on tans of the hides and use them as rugs, but black bear hunting is mainly meat hunting.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)IE shoot a big game animal just for the head and/or fur. If she hunted the bear, she was obligated by law to use or donate the meat.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)she needs to go the way of the Dodo bird!
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)I live in CA and that show airs while I am sleeping.
Thank the fuck heavens, because it is pablum.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)they are all obnoxious
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)after seeing that disgusting display of her hunting skill.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The show is an acquired taste. When I first watched it, I didn't think much of it, but now, I like the show.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)have acquired no taste as of yet!
I expect it to go the way of the Dodo in 2013!
ashling
(25,771 posts)and she went on about how she didn't like them or something. Anyway, the part I heard was her going on about how you get drunk and the intern gropes you in the copy room.
I could have done without that image.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Ewww!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)The way bears are hunted so princesses like her don't get hurt is so cruel I can't even talk about it here.
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...hunting bear?
Don't they pay her enough to eat out or have someone take a shopping list to the store?
Does she live in the wild????
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Like the kind one would buy if you went to the grocery store, instead of hunting a wild animal that's lived it's entire life free in the woods?
That's an......odd point of view.
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...but, people are always surprising me!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Look it up but be prepared to be sickened.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Other than the use of bait to draw in the bears, it's no different than hunting deer. You sit in a stand, wait for the animal to come into range, and put a bullet or arrow through it's chest.
On the other hand, have you ever looked up what happens to farm animals when they're raised from birth to slaughter? I grew up on a small family farm, and the things we did to livestock on a daily basis were appalling in retrospect. Castration with no anesthesia, tail docking with no anesthesia, the pulling of teeth with no anesthesia, confinement in dusty barns for extended periods of time (ie the entire winter in some cases), being fed huge amounts of antibiotic and feed supplements that play hell with their digestive systems. And this wasn't even a factory farm!
Any sane person who has truly compared hunting to the vast majority of farm-raised meat cannot come to any conclusion other than hunting being a more humane source of meat for your plate. If you're concerned about cruelty to animals, hunting falls pretty far down on the list right now.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)I'm pretty sure that yes, I do know.
Enlighten me how it's more cruel than I stated? All I can think of is that you're thinking of bear hunting with dogs, which has become very rare in most of the US due to the widespread and booming populations of bears making it unnecessary.
And I see you gave no input on what I said about farming practices and the inherent cruelty involved there. Any reason you failed to comment on that portion of my reply?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)That said, it's rare today that most hunters even use dogs anymore; the majority of bear hunters just throw a pile of old donuts and syrups onto the ground as bait and wait for the bears to catch wind of it. It appears to be primarily a Southern tradition, and since I'm up in Minnesota I've never met anyone who's used that method.
And after having seen how farm animals are treated every day of their lives, I still come to the conclusion that hunting, even using dogs, is less cruel than modern-day farming practices if one insists on eating meat.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I remember some guy even went so far as to draw an ethical contrast between canned hunts and the average weekend hunt for game. Not necessary to draw that contrast at all-- it's legal, people defend, and it's fun-- "if one insists on eating meat"
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Probably nowhere close to a majority, or even a large minority.
But this could merely be my own perception bias, as I have never seen anyone hunt bear that way except on television. All my bear hunting involved stalking and waiting, no dogs.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)Black bears are not an endangered species; their numbers are raising and have been for many years due to regulated hunting and habitat protection. If you're concerned about cruelty, meat you've hunted yourself beats farm-raised meat in every way.
And it's illegal in almost every state to waste game meat, ie trophy hunting just for the head and hide. People who don't want to eat the meat frequently donate it to food shelves.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)What I don't understand is the concept of putting a dead animal on your Christmas card.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)for a holiday card is beyond despicable. She is revolting.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Bear tastes nasty, too.
I would NEVER hunt bear. Give me elk or deer or even antelope any day.
Botany
(70,516 posts)my black lab is bigger than that bear .... she was just out killing not hunting
BTW most black bear hunts are over bait stations.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)What scum she is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)It would be on the greatest page in a flash
Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)When they show her while someone else is yammering, she is often seen to be quite slackjawed.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)It takes some amount of bear habitat to grow and bring food to the market place
Brown bear, brown bear, what do you see? Selective outrage regarding our ecosystem killing machine
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)It feels better just to blame conservatives.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)waving proudly with the dead bear at their feet, on a fucking card and sent it out for Christmas.
Can you post a link about what you are saying? I tried looking it up but found nothing on the relation between the Brown Bear and getting food to the market.
If you are going to make a claim that from my perspective (and I respect responsible gun owners) seems crazy you may want to back it up with some facts.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)The agricultural system has converted vast amount of forests, wetlands and natural grasslands into crop lands for our food system. Any society that is sustained on that ecological destruction is in some part responsible for the disruption of the ecosystem. Many bear populations have been depressed, and will continue to be, while we continue to push our way to feeding billions of people.
I can be no more outraged at this single bear death than the continue devastation our society is imparting on multiple bear populations.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)And besides, bear meat tastes like shit
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Their diet is composed mostly of vegetation. We're not talking grizzly bears here.
Hell, the average farm-raised pig probably eats more meat than a black bear, due to their practice of cannibalizing their young if given the chance
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Like Denali where all the rivers and lakes are glacier run-offs so there are no fish...both bears are opportunists and will eat what they can.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)And their meat tastes fine at the right times of the year, prepared correctly.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)sasha031
(6,700 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Her atheism and one or two of her other positions give you the impression she is at least modern and then you see her at home hanging around with swamp people shooting bears.