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S.E. Cupp kills bears (Original Post) Laffy Kat Dec 2012 OP
I echo your sentiments and now, more than arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #1
Time to re-dedicate ourselves to the Right to Arm Bears! pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #2
Do people eat bears? murielm99 Dec 2012 #3
I guess you could eat bear but why? Laffy Kat Dec 2012 #4
While I have no particular love for the woman, unless you know for a fact... PavePusher Dec 2012 #8
Of course people hunt Berserker Dec 2012 #5
Yes, we do. PavePusher Dec 2012 #6
I did a Google search on "eating bear meat" and I was very surprised to find that it is indeed.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #11
I shot a bear once tularetom Dec 2012 #12
...What was he doing in your pajamas? Demoiselle Dec 2012 #34
Um I think the Groucho Marx bit was an elephant tularetom Dec 2012 #60
You're right, of course, but I have very loose standards where gags are concerned. Demoiselle Dec 2012 #78
Yes, it's actually quite good NickB79 Dec 2012 #14
Anything is good in sausage form... WCGreen Dec 2012 #17
I draw the line at blood sausage NickB79 Dec 2012 #20
Keiska... WCGreen Dec 2012 #24
Yes. It's good. jmowreader Dec 2012 #15
The liver, apparently, can be fatally toxic, as closeupready Dec 2012 #18
MMmmm, bear claws are tasty eating! petronius Dec 2012 #40
I know someone who did Whisp Dec 2012 #28
The first peoples did DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #7
Cupp of Crapp. nt alp227 Dec 2012 #9
2craps 1Cupp Erose999 Dec 2012 #16
= Cupp overfloweth with crap pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #22
Trophy hunting is no different than the little kid Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #10
Do you have evidence that she was "trophy hunting"? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #21
Do you have any evidence she was doing anything else? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #29
Yes, but I will not post the video Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #30
Very few people trophy hunt black bears jmowreader Dec 2012 #23
It's illegal in most states to waste game meat NickB79 Dec 2012 #33
That does it 2naSalit Dec 2012 #13
I watched that show for the first time, today DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #19
It is a terrible show, and it's not only Sippie Cupp's fault Whisp Dec 2012 #31
I like the Cycle. Cupp can be a pain, but the dynamics in the group are entertaining to watch. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #44
I saw it for the first time today too and it will also be the last time Raine Dec 2012 #43
There are three democratic leaners on The Cycle. They make fun of Cupp a lot. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #45
Uh ... been listening on Sirius off and on for some time ... cilla4progress Dec 2012 #54
Yesterday they were talking about office Xmas parties ashling Dec 2012 #25
The intern must have really low standards and no self-esteem whatsoever to grope that. Cleita Dec 2012 #27
Cupp isn't bad looking. Her voice and views are complete turn offs. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #46
I'm afraid looks just couldn't make up for the latter qualities in my book. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #49
If that's what she does she's no better than a black widow spider. Cleita Dec 2012 #26
Why the heck is she... Mike Nelson Dec 2012 #32
So, you'd be OK with her eating factory-farmed beef? NickB79 Dec 2012 #35
I can't picture well-paid daily talk-show hosts out hunting for their meat... Mike Nelson Dec 2012 #38
Bear hunting isn't just hunting. It's a cruel sport. Cleita Dec 2012 #50
I know what bear hunting entails NickB79 Dec 2012 #61
If that's what you think, you don't know. Pathetic. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #63
Since I have coworkers and family who bear hunt NickB79 Dec 2012 #64
The dogs for one. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #66
Not a fan of using dogs for bear hunting NickB79 Dec 2012 #70
remember some guy even went so far as to draw an ethical contrast between canned hunts ... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #71
Not everyone uses dogs in bear hunting. PavePusher Dec 2012 #73
Right. Because we have as many bears as cows. And she's super going to eat that bear meat. DirkGently Dec 2012 #56
The number of bears hunted has no impact on the cruelty factor NickB79 Dec 2012 #62
Hunters will hunt... Demoiselle Dec 2012 #36
I agree, It's disgusting. It's one thing to hunt for sport - which I despise. But to use the photo smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #57
I would suspect it's an "in-your-face" ploy for attention n/t deutsey Dec 2012 #69
If you hunt it, you damned well better eat it. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #37
classless Botany Dec 2012 #39
Yeah, that's a baby...or a first season...maybe second, just left mom... joeybee12 Dec 2012 #42
Poor baby. This just makes me so sad. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #58
Very freakin' sad. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #48
If that was altered to read: Bears Kill SE Cupp... joeybee12 Dec 2012 #41
She's funny on that show they do . . . . Miss Slackjaw Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #47
A lot of peaceful vegetarians have killed more bears NoOneMan Dec 2012 #51
Don't bring that up The2ndWheel Dec 2012 #59
Yeah and then they put a picture of themselves, SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #67
Cultivating natural land has a detrimental impact on biodiversity and animal habitat NoOneMan Dec 2012 #68
Vile. I believe in the right to arm bears. forestpath Dec 2012 #52
Not surprised she gets off on killing animals. She's a vile human being. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #53
I'm a hunter and I find the hunting of any carnivorous mammal to be disgusting. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #55
Black bears rarely eat meat, though NickB79 Dec 2012 #65
In some places even grizzlies mainly eat veggies... joeybee12 Dec 2012 #72
Bears are omnivores. PavePusher Dec 2012 #74
She's a moron. Someone probably told her how tasty bear claws are. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2012 #75
She should go on Colbert KamaAina Dec 2012 #76
I can't stand her either disgusting sasha031 Dec 2012 #77
She's like some freak mutant Republican Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #79

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
3. Do people eat bears?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
Dec 2012

Venison, I can see. If people eat what they kill, okay. But I don't think people eat bear these days.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
4. I guess you could eat bear but why?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Dec 2012

You can't tell me she killed the bear to eat it. No, she's a Palin wannabe.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
8. While I have no particular love for the woman, unless you know for a fact...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:16 PM
Dec 2012

that she didn't eat (or possibly donate) the meat, there are plenty of things to castigate her for without making things up.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
11. I did a Google search on "eating bear meat" and I was very surprised to find that it is indeed....
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:19 PM
Dec 2012

...eaten and considered as good as pork or beef. Just have to make sure the meat is cooked thoroughly to avoid trichinosis.

But, having said that, what's the point in hunting bears for any reason? and who the heck cares what S. E. Cupp does in her personal time? I personally can't stand her and change the channel whenever her face fills the screen.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
12. I shot a bear once
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:23 PM
Dec 2012

I'd never do it again.

The meat was almost inedible. I wound up giving most of it away.

The bearskin is still on the wall in my shop after my wife refused to allow it anywhere in the house.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
34. ...What was he doing in your pajamas?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:16 PM
Dec 2012

Oops...sorry. I thought you were doing the old Groucho Marx line, "I shot a bear once in my pajamas....What he was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know..."

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
14. Yes, it's actually quite good
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
Dec 2012

A very rich meat, but good in summer sausage form. A coworker brings in a platter every winter around Christmas after he has his bear processed.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
15. Yes. It's good.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
Dec 2012

The finest pizza you will ever eat is made with fresh homemade mozzarella, heirloom tomatoes, kalamata olives and bear pepperoni. It's very fatty if you kill it in fall bear season so it's probably the finest sausage meat there is.

Spring bears have very little fat so they produce lean steaks and chops.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
18. The liver, apparently, can be fatally toxic, as
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:34 PM
Dec 2012

can other organs.

The paws, I've read, were considered delicacies by Native Americans, on the other hand.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
23. Very few people trophy hunt black bears
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:48 PM
Dec 2012

Black bears aren't spectacular enough to trophy hunt. Imagine a Newfoundland with an Irish setter's head on it. People will do fur-on tans of the hides and use them as rugs, but black bear hunting is mainly meat hunting.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
33. It's illegal in most states to waste game meat
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:16 PM
Dec 2012

IE shoot a big game animal just for the head and/or fur. If she hunted the bear, she was obligated by law to use or donate the meat.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
19. I watched that show for the first time, today
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:36 PM
Dec 2012

I live in CA and that show airs while I am sleeping.

Thank the fuck heavens, because it is pablum.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
43. I saw it for the first time today too and it will also be the last time
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012

after seeing that disgusting display of her hunting skill.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
45. There are three democratic leaners on The Cycle. They make fun of Cupp a lot.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:35 PM
Dec 2012

The show is an acquired taste. When I first watched it, I didn't think much of it, but now, I like the show.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
54. Uh ... been listening on Sirius off and on for some time ...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:59 PM
Dec 2012

have acquired no taste as of yet!

I expect it to go the way of the Dodo in 2013!

ashling

(25,771 posts)
25. Yesterday they were talking about office Xmas parties
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

and she went on about how she didn't like them or something. Anyway, the part I heard was her going on about how you get drunk and the intern gropes you in the copy room.

I could have done without that image.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
26. If that's what she does she's no better than a black widow spider.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:42 PM
Dec 2012

The way bears are hunted so princesses like her don't get hurt is so cruel I can't even talk about it here.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
32. Why the heck is she...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:10 PM
Dec 2012

...hunting bear?
Don't they pay her enough to eat out or have someone take a shopping list to the store?
Does she live in the wild????

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
35. So, you'd be OK with her eating factory-farmed beef?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:18 PM
Dec 2012

Like the kind one would buy if you went to the grocery store, instead of hunting a wild animal that's lived it's entire life free in the woods?

That's an......odd point of view.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
38. I can't picture well-paid daily talk-show hosts out hunting for their meat...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:26 PM
Dec 2012

...but, people are always surprising me!

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
61. I know what bear hunting entails
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:04 PM
Dec 2012

Other than the use of bait to draw in the bears, it's no different than hunting deer. You sit in a stand, wait for the animal to come into range, and put a bullet or arrow through it's chest.

On the other hand, have you ever looked up what happens to farm animals when they're raised from birth to slaughter? I grew up on a small family farm, and the things we did to livestock on a daily basis were appalling in retrospect. Castration with no anesthesia, tail docking with no anesthesia, the pulling of teeth with no anesthesia, confinement in dusty barns for extended periods of time (ie the entire winter in some cases), being fed huge amounts of antibiotic and feed supplements that play hell with their digestive systems. And this wasn't even a factory farm!

Any sane person who has truly compared hunting to the vast majority of farm-raised meat cannot come to any conclusion other than hunting being a more humane source of meat for your plate. If you're concerned about cruelty to animals, hunting falls pretty far down on the list right now.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
64. Since I have coworkers and family who bear hunt
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:48 PM
Dec 2012

I'm pretty sure that yes, I do know.

Enlighten me how it's more cruel than I stated? All I can think of is that you're thinking of bear hunting with dogs, which has become very rare in most of the US due to the widespread and booming populations of bears making it unnecessary.

And I see you gave no input on what I said about farming practices and the inherent cruelty involved there. Any reason you failed to comment on that portion of my reply?

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
70. Not a fan of using dogs for bear hunting
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:25 PM
Dec 2012

That said, it's rare today that most hunters even use dogs anymore; the majority of bear hunters just throw a pile of old donuts and syrups onto the ground as bait and wait for the bears to catch wind of it. It appears to be primarily a Southern tradition, and since I'm up in Minnesota I've never met anyone who's used that method.

And after having seen how farm animals are treated every day of their lives, I still come to the conclusion that hunting, even using dogs, is less cruel than modern-day farming practices if one insists on eating meat.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
71. remember some guy even went so far as to draw an ethical contrast between canned hunts ...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012

I remember some guy even went so far as to draw an ethical contrast between canned hunts and the average weekend hunt for game. Not necessary to draw that contrast at all-- it's legal, people defend, and it's fun-- "if one insists on eating meat"


 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
73. Not everyone uses dogs in bear hunting.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:50 PM
Dec 2012

Probably nowhere close to a majority, or even a large minority.

But this could merely be my own perception bias, as I have never seen anyone hunt bear that way except on television. All my bear hunting involved stalking and waiting, no dogs.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
62. The number of bears hunted has no impact on the cruelty factor
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:08 PM
Dec 2012

Black bears are not an endangered species; their numbers are raising and have been for many years due to regulated hunting and habitat protection. If you're concerned about cruelty, meat you've hunted yourself beats farm-raised meat in every way.

And it's illegal in almost every state to waste game meat, ie trophy hunting just for the head and hide. People who don't want to eat the meat frequently donate it to food shelves.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
36. Hunters will hunt...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:19 PM
Dec 2012

What I don't understand is the concept of putting a dead animal on your Christmas card.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
57. I agree, It's disgusting. It's one thing to hunt for sport - which I despise. But to use the photo
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:16 PM
Dec 2012

for a holiday card is beyond despicable. She is revolting.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
37. If you hunt it, you damned well better eat it.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:26 PM
Dec 2012

Bear tastes nasty, too.

I would NEVER hunt bear. Give me elk or deer or even antelope any day.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
39. classless
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:00 PM
Dec 2012


my black lab is bigger than that bear .... she was just out killing not hunting

BTW most black bear hunts are over bait stations.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
47. She's funny on that show they do . . . . Miss Slackjaw
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:42 PM
Dec 2012

When they show her while someone else is yammering, she is often seen to be quite slackjawed.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
51. A lot of peaceful vegetarians have killed more bears
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:52 PM
Dec 2012

It takes some amount of bear habitat to grow and bring food to the market place

Brown bear, brown bear, what do you see? Selective outrage regarding our ecosystem killing machine

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
67. Yeah and then they put a picture of themselves,
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:02 PM
Dec 2012

waving proudly with the dead bear at their feet, on a fucking card and sent it out for Christmas.

Can you post a link about what you are saying? I tried looking it up but found nothing on the relation between the Brown Bear and getting food to the market.
If you are going to make a claim that from my perspective (and I respect responsible gun owners) seems crazy you may want to back it up with some facts.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
68. Cultivating natural land has a detrimental impact on biodiversity and animal habitat
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:48 PM
Dec 2012

The agricultural system has converted vast amount of forests, wetlands and natural grasslands into crop lands for our food system. Any society that is sustained on that ecological destruction is in some part responsible for the disruption of the ecosystem. Many bear populations have been depressed, and will continue to be, while we continue to push our way to feeding billions of people.

I can be no more outraged at this single bear death than the continue devastation our society is imparting on multiple bear populations.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
55. I'm a hunter and I find the hunting of any carnivorous mammal to be disgusting.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:04 PM
Dec 2012

And besides, bear meat tastes like shit

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
65. Black bears rarely eat meat, though
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:51 PM
Dec 2012

Their diet is composed mostly of vegetation. We're not talking grizzly bears here.

Hell, the average farm-raised pig probably eats more meat than a black bear, due to their practice of cannibalizing their young if given the chance

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
72. In some places even grizzlies mainly eat veggies...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:41 PM
Dec 2012

Like Denali where all the rivers and lakes are glacier run-offs so there are no fish...both bears are opportunists and will eat what they can.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
74. Bears are omnivores.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:55 PM
Dec 2012

And their meat tastes fine at the right times of the year, prepared correctly.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
79. She's like some freak mutant Republican
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:19 PM
Dec 2012

Her atheism and one or two of her other positions give you the impression she is at least modern and then you see her at home hanging around with swamp people shooting bears.



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