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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:03 PM Dec 2012

Permanent Republican Majority

Let's face it. Congress and State Legislatures have a stranglehold after Democrats and Obama voters failed to support the President in the 2010 mid-terms.

With the massive gerrymandering scheme they've put in place, how many election cycles (2 years) will it take us to undo their hold on America.

Keeping in mind that even with President Obama's coattails generating a plurality of votes in the millions, we barely made any gains, and that gerrymandering will be even worse in 2014.


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1 (17%)
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8 years
1 (17%)
10 years
3 (50%)
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0 (0%)
14 years
0 (0%)
16 years
0 (0%)
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dawg

(10,624 posts)
1. If we recapture a State House, we don't necessarily have to wait ...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:07 PM
Dec 2012

until 2020 to redistrict. Just a thought.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
4. Didn't Tom Delay help redistrict (gerrymander) Texas in 2003?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

I would imagine it varies from state to state based on state law.

leftstreet

(36,111 posts)
6. Don't blame voters
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:50 PM
Dec 2012

What exactly is the Democratic Party doing about all this?

What's their plan to counter the gerrymandering?

Why do they let GOPers run unopposed in so many districts?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. Doncha just love it?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:59 PM
Dec 2012

They lie their asses off about how they are going "help the regular people" if elected, then not only don't do squat for us, except pander to the 1%, but also have the unmitigated gall to blame US for it. ANYONE buying that line of horseshit has the mental capacity of a sack of hammers.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
7. The next cencus wll be in 2020, and the next round of gerrymandering the following year
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

I won't be here, but let us hope Democrats are in charge of enough state houses to put things on at least an even keel.

0rganism

(23,967 posts)
9. It's going to take a LONG time
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:03 PM
Dec 2012

Several things have to happen before we can even hope to untangle the gerrymandering.

1. The old people who consistently and unwaveringly vote for republicans have to die off. That puts a minimum of 10 years on any remedy.
2. The Hispanic population has to grow substantially and put a strong cultural value in flexing its electoral muscle.
3. It'll take another census or two to give our side the opportunities we need to fix the mess.
4. The republicans need to continue their habits of pandering to the most idiotic and divisive elements of their base.
5. Voters in the photo-ID states have to get IDs. There's no way around it, we have to

Make no mistake, we cannot reverse this shambles with anything short of stellar turnout advantage. 55-45 won't get it done. 60-40 won't get it done. We need something like 80-20 to have a good shot at it. Meantime, the best thing we can do is ensure that states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio never have to suffer under another republican governor. If we can't do this, we can't even hope to begin to fix the problem.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
10. Depends whether Dems make a strong defense of Medicare and Social Security.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:07 PM
Dec 2012

If Democrats make a strong defense of what the people want, while Republicans openly support only the top 1%, Democrats could sweep all the elections.

If they choices are not clear it will be more of a hard slog.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
14. 10 years if we're lucky
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

To quote Steve martin, the public has a short memory. And one of my biggest complaints about liberals in general is that we get complacent when there's a Democrat in the White House.

The next census won't be until 2020, so we'll have to live with the Republiscum's artificial majority for AT LEAST that long. Then, IF enough people remember the outrageous way the Reds abused their majority, it's possible that some of the bluer states will vote enough of the bastards out to re-draw the maps in our favor. But that's a mighty big if.

And of course it's going to be much longer than that before anything changes in the bumpkin belt...

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