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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:54 PM Dec 2012

Should all pranks and practical jokes be halted in case a victim commits suicide?

Last edited Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)


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Yes. Nobody should ever play a prank or practical joke, because you never know when it might cause somebody to commit suicide.
1 (13%)
No. Pranks can be funny, and if someone commits suicide they probably have more serious issues.
5 (63%)
Other.
2 (25%)
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Should all pranks and practical jokes be halted in case a victim commits suicide? (Original Post) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 OP
No fucking way! -..__... Dec 2012 #1
*shudder* Wanda Sykes... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #7
too funny! treestar Dec 2012 #21
I voted "no," but I do think we should try to be toughtful with our pranks and jokes. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #2
Other: the news is about an attempt to get people to break the rules of their workplace muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #3
The nurse who killed herself did nothing except transfer the call. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #6
OK, fair enough, the other nurse would have been the one to break the law muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #9
That nurse had other issues. lalalu Dec 2012 #4
No, but I don't think it's too much to ask wickerwoman Dec 2012 #5
Plus a gazillion and a half! LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #8
So the prank call to Scott Walker (supposedly from David Koch) should not have happened, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #10
Only if it was that receptionist's job to confirm the identity of the caller. jeff47 Dec 2012 #15
What I'm saying is, wickerwoman Dec 2012 #22
I voted "other." I wouldn't want to ban thucythucy Dec 2012 #11
That! OldEurope Dec 2012 #14
i say ban everything arely staircase Dec 2012 #12
No but some sensitivity should be shown about making private citizens who weren't Raine Dec 2012 #13
+1 treestar Dec 2012 #18
Good Grief! Let's take the receptionist call fowarding in perspective -- Hestia Dec 2012 #23
She obviously had major, major issues, and anything could have triggered her suicidal urges. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #24
Better question union_maid Dec 2012 #16
Depends treestar Dec 2012 #17
It wasn't a prank AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #19
The tasteless we shall always have with us. Common sense, not so much. libdem4life Dec 2012 #20

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
3. Other: the news is about an attempt to get people to break the rules of their workplace
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:01 PM
Dec 2012

that would have had a good chance of getting them sacked, whatever their reaction (and, who knows, maybe that was a significant part of their thinking before suicide). In some countries, the nurse would have broken the law. It was more than just a 'prank' or 'practical joke'. And it also probably broke Australian broadcasting rules, because they should have had permission to broadcast it.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. The nurse who killed herself did nothing except transfer the call.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:08 PM
Dec 2012

She did not give out any information whatsoever. How could she have broken the law?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
9. OK, fair enough, the other nurse would have been the one to break the law
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

That hardly affects your push poll, though.

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
4. That nurse had other issues.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:02 PM
Dec 2012

How could she really believe the queen was calling her on the phone? Plus they sounded like someone from Monty Python.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
5. No, but I don't think it's too much to ask
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:08 PM
Dec 2012

for people to think through the consequences of their actions and take responsibility for them.

Putting cling film on a toilet seat is not the same as broadcasting a phone call that, best case scenario, is going to get someone written up or fired from their low-paid, stressful service job.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. So the prank call to Scott Walker (supposedly from David Koch) should not have happened,
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:00 PM
Dec 2012

because it might have resulted in the receptionist who took the call being fired?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Only if it was that receptionist's job to confirm the identity of the caller.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:23 PM
Dec 2012

Here's the thing - a good prank actually has to have a chance of being, you know, funny.

What, exactly is the potential funny here? Ha-ha! We talked to someone on the phone!

Even the childish "Is your refrigerator running"-style calls have a joke in them. This "prank" has no point.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
22. What I'm saying is,
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:24 PM
Dec 2012

own the consequences. If you're going to act thoughtlessly in a way that damages another person's life, then you should accept responsibility and try to make amends for it. If the receptionist had been fired, the person making the phone call should have offered to hire her or helped her find another job.

Better yet, why don't we all try to be a little nicer to each other than we have to be? You never know where somebody is coming from- especially when your "prank" involves cold-calling complete strangers. Even what's funny can change second to second. You don't know that she just didn't find out her mother died or that her husband has cancer or that one of her kids is doing drugs. The fact that she's a nurse and obviously has a very stressful job should be clue number one.

Do you really think the benefit here outweighs the possible consequences? Giving a bunch of people a little snigger with their morning coffee about the "dumb nurses at the hospital" is worth getting someone fired or driving them over the edge into suicide? We're talking about a real widowed husband and kids without a mother for what? The rights of rich radio assholes engaging in societally sanctioned bullying for "grown-ups"?

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
11. I voted "other." I wouldn't want to ban
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:14 PM
Dec 2012

all pranks, but as a general rule I think it's poor taste and exceedingly thoughtless to prank nurses at hospitals, volunteers at battered women's shelters, officials at hurricane relief efforts, EMTs, and others performing vital services. Generally speaking those people are stressed out enough, and don't have the time or energy for "pranks."

If you want to play a prank, try calling some jerk shock jock and tell him on the air that his cialis was delivered to the wrong address. Not there's a prank I can get behind.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
13. No but some sensitivity should be shown about making private citizens who weren't
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:19 PM
Dec 2012

seeking the public eye the butt of a joke that is broadcast. It's one thing with public figures like Scott Walker or Sarah Palin but doing it to private citizens and humiliating them is just wrong.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
23. Good Grief! Let's take the receptionist call fowarding in perspective --
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:46 PM
Dec 2012

How do you know that this person hadn't been fielding calls all day/night from Lord & Lady blah blah blah or the Duke & Duchess of blah blah blah. She'd most like been told to transfer those type of call through to someone in the know (of how and when to handle these types of calls).

This act goes way beyond transferring a prank call. It sounds like either A) crap rolls downhill and she was the bottom (supervisor et al giving her "disciplinary" recommendation; or B) she had major emotional issues above and beyond her job, and actually, the call transfer had absolutely nothing to do with her suicide; or 3) mostly B, and just a bit of A.

When did we lose our sense of humor? Everyone is acting as if the call itself plunged a knife into her back instead of saying, oh, wow, it was just a call. So what if they are tasteless? Aren't there a whole slew of these types of morning pranksters in this country? How do we know that none of their calls ended the same way? Or Crank Yankers (remember them)? CY's calls were worse.

Prank calls have been around since the invention of the telephone and they aren't going to stop. There's a new generation of 'tweens coming in. They think they'll be the first ever to think of prank calls.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
24. She obviously had major, major issues, and anything could have triggered her suicidal urges.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:18 PM
Dec 2012

People who are not severely mentally disturbed do not kill themselves over something like this. Heck, normal people don't even kill themselves over the death of a spouse, the loss of a job, or bankruptcy.

If this prank had not occurred, something else would probably have triggered her suicide.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
16. Better question
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:25 PM
Dec 2012

Should shock jocks be deep sixed? I'd vote yes for that. Not banned. Just ended, the way we're trying to have happen to Rush.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Depends
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:26 PM
Dec 2012

Some pranks are extreme.

The ones on Sarah Palin were OK to do, of course!

This I think could easily get someone in trouble. You give confidential information over the phone to someone you think is authorized. The lady probably took some heat for assuming. She may have broken a rule or policy, since a hospital that treats the royals is likely to have a bunch of rules about it.

The mother in law and brother in law probably aren't generally allowed to have information about the patient. So she could have taken heat for that. Even so, suicide is too much, without other issues.

But people should be treated respectfully, especially since you don't know if you are dealing with someone who is depressed. Best to limit pranks to people you know have a sense of humor and know are tough enough for it.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
19. It wasn't a prank
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:27 PM
Dec 2012

It wasnt a practical joke. It was paparazzi style stalking. Paparazzi are not pranksters and jokers.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. The tasteless we shall always have with us. Common sense, not so much.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:29 PM
Dec 2012

Unfortunately, I think it's like trying to ban Stupid. It defies definition.

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