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snot

(10,530 posts)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:02 PM Dec 2012

UN Considering Proposals to Control Internet - Behind Closed Doors

From http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/11/you-cant-make-decisions-about-the-open-internet-behind-closed-doors/ :

{The article says the process is structured to take place without transparency and without input from many stakeholders, including the experts who helped build and maintain the internet. But . . . }

Those are just concerns about the process. When you look at some of the proposals themselves, it’s downright frightening.

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By giving the ITU and its member states more control over cybersecurity, some of the government proposals . . . justify censoring and spying on their citizens.

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The internet is so efficient in part because packets swiftly traverse the network without being confined to a pre-determined route. . . . [but one proposal] would give governments the “right to know how its traffic is routed” . . . . potentially creating a series of bottlenecks resulting in increased surveillance, slower connection speeds, and increased costs to users.

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Other proposals . . . would increase costs to send content – potentially cutting off large swaths of the world from some online services and media.
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UN Considering Proposals to Control Internet - Behind Closed Doors (Original Post) snot Dec 2012 OP
The US still controls root ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #1
And the US is *already* surveilling all of us in violation of the Constitution. woo me with science Dec 2012 #2
The spying can be defeated easily enough if it is important to you ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #3
"if it is important to you" woo me with science Dec 2012 #4
Actually that in the US that we are allowed to block it is important ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5
How easy is it really for the average grandma to defeat the spying? snot Dec 2012 #6

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
1. The US still controls root
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:24 PM
Dec 2012

And the design paradigms are in the network and technology DNA and not subject to bureaucratic whim.

IIRC there was a congressional vote recently to reject UN/ITU takeover...

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. And the US is *already* surveilling all of us in violation of the Constitution.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
Dec 2012

And a massive spy center is being constructed in Utah for collecting data on all of us.

And Obama signed ACTA and then tried to hide it from the US press by calling it a "national security issue."

And the administration has an internet ID plan in progress which has never been discussed with the public.

And after several "cybersecurity" orders were rejected in Congress because of concerns about privacy, Obama wrote an executive order which will force through the measures at any time.

I think we have very good reason to be outraged and concerned about the future, not just because of the UN, but based on our own government's actions.


ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. The spying can be defeated easily enough if it is important to you
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012

Also the commercial companies can refuse to carry certain traffic or support the new "features". Silicon Valley does not answer to the ITU

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
4. "if it is important to you"
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:48 PM
Dec 2012

Governments should not spy on their citizens. Damn right that's important, and, no, the ability to "get around it" is not the point.

But, then, you already knew that.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. Actually that in the US that we are allowed to block it is important
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:46 PM
Dec 2012

in other countries, including western ones, doing so is a crime in itself.

If a person or group is trying to not have their comms intercepted, it can be done, but its a PITA. Clear trade between ease of use and security.

snot

(10,530 posts)
6. How easy is it really for the average grandma to defeat the spying?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:53 AM
Dec 2012

And relying on commercial companies to protect my rights -- surely you jest?

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