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Highlights from Egypt, Dec 6 2012 (Part 1) can be found here, along with links to threads from previous days: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021936640
Egyptians are waiting on a pre-recorded speech that was supposed to be broadcast hours ago.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)سلطان سعود القاسمي ?@SultanAlQassemi
As @ezzatahram says the fact that Morsy's speech is taking so long means that there was some conflicting opinions regarding the content
@ezzatahram is a political commentator. Last we heard, they're delaying Morsi's pre-recorded speech as he consults with unknown 'advisors'
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi speech just started after waiting since yesterday for it. #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Simbakis ?@Simbakis
Morsi is reading a speech
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi speech on CNN Intl; not CNN or AJE, oddly enough.
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: I feel my responsibility towards all Egyptians, those who support me and those who don't
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi: I can feel the right of every Egyptian on me whether supporter or opposition because all Egyptians are equal to me #Egypt
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: There is no difference between Egyptians (for me) neither religion, nor political affiliation
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
Morsi calls the recent "events" regrettable, painful, says the political crisis should have been solved through dialogue
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi: the events of yesterday happened under the tapestry of political strife halting progress to our future dream state #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi: I pray God will safeguard the repercussions of this storm.
@Sandmonkey
"The minority should obey the majority. Isn't this democracy?" Ehh, no. And u r no longer the majority. #morsy
The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
#Morsy: Political disagreement should be resolved through dialogue and wisdom and peace
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi: I address this to those of you opposing me with diginity... I state clearly and openly why we respect right of freedom of expression
Morsi: I can't tolerate any person committing murder or vandalism
Morsi: Or people intimidating unsuspecting civilians, or inciting subversion against legitimacy
Morsi: Those who protested on #Dec4, some resorted to violence, assaulting my motorcade. A driver suffered grave injuries.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)@SultanAlQassemi
Mubarak 2.0
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: I will not allow anyone to call for the overthrow of the legitimate order
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi: Those who infiltrated the crowd, this cannot go unpunished. And yesterday was worse. Peaceful demonstrators assaulted.
Morsi: Utter, blunt assault by weapons. This is something new to see - firearms being used, and molotov cocktails.
Morsi: 6 egyptian youth lost their lives, 700+ ppl suffered injuries. Acts of terrorism against civilians continued til this morning.
Ikhwanweb ?@Ikhwanweb
#Morsi: the deposed Mubarak regime will not be brought back to life under any circumstances
Ahmed Abulhassan ?@AhmedAbulhassan
Someone please remix this with a Mubarak video.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Reem Abdellatif ريم ?@Reem_Abdellatif
#Morsi: I respect peaceful expression, but I will not allow killing or destruction of public property or the call to overthrow legitimacy
#Morsi: nor will I allow calls to topple the state. The protesters on Tuesday started with violence #Egypt
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: Does peaceful demonstrations mean to attack a road or disrupt production or ruin Egypt's image? It can't be
Rawya Rageh ?@RawyaRageh
#Morsi criticizes blocking traffic, destroying public property, tarnishing #Egypt's reputation. 'This is no peaceful expression'
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi: firearms, shotguns, and tear gas was used. Six Egyptians were killed and over 700 injured in these sad events #Egypt
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: The use of gas bombs and shot guns is new. Six pure Egyptians were killed, 700 injured, inciting violence continued
(any minute now, I expect shoes to start flying)
Catherina
(35,568 posts)@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: The use of gas bombs and shot guns is new. Six pure Egyptians were killed, 700 injured, inciting violence continued
(wtf is a "pure" Egyptian?)
Rt @azortiz: #Tahrir ringing out with chants of the people want the downfall of the regime."
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
Morsi saying there is a legitimate opposition and then people who "spend black money" to undermine Egypt
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: These (protesters) are implicated with the former regime, spending their dirty money
Nadia El-Awady ?@NadiaE
Morsi's full focus now on the role of the previous regime in what's happening now
marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Morsi presser: who gave them $$ and gave them weapons? they are being funded to cause chaos and the thugs admitted taking $$
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: We will work with the (peaceful protesters) and will use the full force of the law against the others (violent)
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
Morsi: people took advantage of the situation, they hired thugs and handed out weapons, and they should be punished.
@SultanAlQassemi
Morsy: The time has come for those who are paying the thugs to be put under the full force of the law
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi: my job in protecting the country and all Egyptians is what led me to issue the constitutional amendments to protect the state #Egypt
marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Morsi presser: constitutional decl was issued bec I saw danger. There were meetings in a former regime mmbr's home & what was said in them r
Morsi presser: r enough 2 cause me 2 issue this declaration. I never meant 2 prevent the judiciary or prevent citizens. Will not resort 2 it
The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
#Morsy: I do not insist on keeping article 6 of the declaration, if it worries people
(what's in article 6??)
Some comments:
SlipknotMody ?@SlipknotMody
#Morsi = Bearded Mubarak... Actually, Morsi is worse than Mubarak, Mubarak never used the religion in his dirty dictatorial tactics.
Reem Abdellatif ريم ?@Reem_Abdellatif
#Morsi's words echo what MB & his supporters said when they detained a minor & protesters & forced them to confess yesterday #previoustweet
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)They would be much more useful if the rest of the political spectrum there were heard from.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Shep Smith just told me "Morsi is the dictator." Nice, simplistic analysis without nuance, pretty much like these one-sided threads.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Although I, and possibly most others on here, suspect it's just to stoke fears against Muslims and to keep their ratings up, instead of real concern for the Egyptian people......
Catherina
(35,568 posts)@SultanAlQassemi
Important -> Morsy: The constitutional decree will end upon the voting of the constitution, whether people vote yes or no
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi: Once the people have their say, no one will have any review. We respond to the will of the people.
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
Morsi: We reached agreement with a number of political groups, as well as the Egyptian church.
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#Morsi: if it does not pass then I will call to create a new constitutional assembly #Egypt
Ikhwanweb ?@Ikhwanweb
#Morsi: I invite all political stakeholders and revolutionary youth for dialogue this Saturday
Mostafa Hussein ?@moftasa
Morsi says will meet people at 12:30pm on Saturday at the presidential palace for dialogue!
The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
#Morsy: I had to issue the presidential decree because there are threats against the nation.
Nadia El-Awady ?@NadiaE
Morsi has pretty much said...nothing
ananda
(28,866 posts).. I respect peace from you as long as I get to do whatever I want.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)First he insults everyone and then invites them to dinner
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Sara سارة ?@SazzleUk
Hitler once called a discussion in the Reichstag, during which, opposition figures were taken out & shot. The rest is history #JustSaying
Catherina
(35,568 posts)@SultanAlQassemi
The gist of Morsy's speech is 1- He won't withdraw the decree, 2- He won't cancel the constitution 3- He is willing to talk to opposition
Mohammed Yahia ?@MohammedY
#MorsiSpeech just ended. Empty, worthless words. He simply reprimanded the protesters and gave support to his supporters. #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)magdi abdelhadi ?@maegdi
Reports of attacks on Muslim Brothers main headquarters in Cairo #egypt
Ahmed Ateyya ?@Ateyya
Breaking: main headquarter of MB in Mokattam is under attack
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
Reports that protesters are trying to storm the Muslim Brotherhood HQ in Cairo
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Sarahngb ?@Sarahngb
Khairy Ramadan seems to have just quit on the air in protest
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
After Morsi speech, TV presenter Khari Ramadan was going 2 meet with Hamdeen. CBC told him he cannot interview Hamdeen. Ramadan withdrew
Mohamed Fadel Fahmy ?@Repent11
Khairy Ramadan, resigns on air, leave his desk because he says, " The management of CBC does NOT want Hamdeen Sabahi on air" #Egypt
Sarahngb ?@Sarahngb
Khairy Ramadan has officially quit on the air, after CBC management prevented Hamdein Sabahy from going on live.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Reem Abdellatif ريم ?@Reem_Abdellatif
Prez palace after #Morsi speech @ElFoulio: The chants of er7al (Leave) now ringing out by just about everybody here
SlipknotMody ?@SlipknotMody
RT @acarvin: RT @FadiSalem: Chants in Cairo now: "leave leave you son of dog! The people want the fall of the regime"! Déjà vu #Egypt #Morsi
Tarek Shalaby ?@tarekshalaby
Pushing against soldiers. http://twitpic.com/bjnluk
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Tarek Shalaby ?@tarekshalaby
Army officer trying to calming down. Soldiers have a hard time to stop us from pushing against them. Everyone's furious!
marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Right now: demonstrators burn F&J Party's headquarters in Mokattam.
Nadia El-Awady ?@NadiaE
#Morsi said that some 80 people were arrested yesterday by the police. What police? As far as I know, they weren't there yesterday.
Pushing back and forth. Neither side is interested in clashing, but they won't let us through. http://twitpic.com/bjnmwv
Tarek Shalaby ?@tarekshalaby
Reaction at the palace after #Morsi speech - LIVE at http://bambuser.com/v/3206205
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Ashkar - أشقــر ?@Ashkar_M
"@3arabawy: Morsi's speech only means there is a wave of arrests of activists (not necessarily folool) looming."
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Bel Trew - بل ترو ?@Beltrew
Pres. palace now from above. 1000s raise shoes at palace as #Morsi blames foreign funded 3rd party
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
#Ikhwan's Tahrir channel demands that they hang Morsi opposition publicly in Tahrir Sq. Here is the video
Video is in Arabic.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mostafa Hussein ?@moftasa
Activist Ola Shahba who was held and beaten by pro-Morsi for hours recounting her experiences on OnTV.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)con o'donnell ?@kanaafa
Morsi gave a speech to his supporters (again) to shore up a crumbling org. Young MBs are dismayed. Seasoned advisors abandoning him. #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Ikhwanweb ?@Ikhwanweb
Muslim Brotherhood HQ in Mokkatam, Cairo, is on fire, hundreds surrounding the building
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nada Wassef ?@Nadawassef
Events unfolding fast.MB HQ torched,allegedly MB did that,CBC talkshow host resigns on air after Sabahy is banned from appearing #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
MB HQ wasn't burned. Stop spreading rumors. Just some chairs outside.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
AlYom ElSabe' reporter says that one of the arrested trying to burn MB HQ in Moqattam has an MB membership card https://www.facebook.com/eldostor.party/posts/379729348787246
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Sara سارة ?@SazzleUk
Word is #MB set fire to their own HQ to create excuse to arrest opposition who have been peaceful, MB suppers violent, Actions speak louder
Please note that the original tweet about the HQ being on fire came straight from the official MB twitter. There were no other reports of that except to say a few chairs had been set on fire.
Right afterwards, State TV broadcast pictures of the HQ on fire showing lots of "smoke". The smoke was all the teargas they launched.
Imo, this is just to further incite their supporters to go after those who won't accept the Morsi/MB sharia rule.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)con o'donnell ?@kanaafa
-@Sandmonkey good question - who set fire to MB headquarters? No opposition called for march/protest there. Its remote.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)salamamoussa ?@salamamoussa
Does it seem a tad too coincidental that MB building get torched a few minutes after #Mursi says oppo bent on arson?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)MB tweet:
Ikhwanweb ?@Ikhwanweb
Ghozlan: We hold Minister of Interior directly responsible for the attack on Muslim Brotherhood HQ after pulling security protection
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Egyptocracy ?@Egyptocracy
#MB leadership keeps attacking the MOI, while CSF protects their HQs and crowds during protests. #Egypt #Morsi
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Sara سارة ?@SazzleUk
The more I see, the more this all seems to have been planned in advance by #MB & #Morsi. we need to get ahead of their "Game" #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)(AP) 34 minutes ago
CAIRO (AP) Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi offered nothing concrete to defuse the country's worst political crisis in nearly two years in a nationally televised speech late Thursday, refusing to rescind a disputed constitution drafted by his allies or his decrees giving him near absolute powers.
A night after thousands of his supporters and opponents fought pitched battles outside his Cairo palace that left at least six dead and nearly 700 injured, he angrily accused some of the opposition protesters of serving remnants of the old regime. He vowed never to tolerate anyone working for the overthrow of his "legitimate" government.
Some among the thousands of opposition protesters gathered near his palace raised their shoes in contempt as they listened to him. Others broke into the iconic Arab Spring chant of "the people want to topple the regime."
...
He also refused to rescind his decrees of Nov.22 placing him above oversight of any kind, including by the courts, saying only that he was willing to annul one decree that gives him wide ranging powers to "protect" the nation and its revolution. He did not say how he would do that or give any other details.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5Z3GOK3GMu0z9iblvntMqXD912A?docId=d2b3794f7eed492e9cfcfa081697f101
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Tarek Shalaby ?@tarekshalaby
Stampede to open up the army's human shield. Still unsuccessful.
Leil-Zahra ?@LeilZahra
Continuous attempts to break lines of presidential guards protecting palace. We go back then run towards them. They are standing firm #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Lilian Wagdy ليليان ?@lilianwagdy
Anchor Mona Shazly says she received reports that Hamdeen Sabahy has been arrested
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nancy Messieh ?@nfm
Insane @SameralAtrush Mahmud Hamza's head of office has been arrested, police say. report that Sabbahi evaded arrest
Some journalist tweets said he slipped out a back door with help of TV crew who saw the thugs coming
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
RT @Yehia18: Expect Baradei, Moussa and Sabahi to be arrested in the upcoming days. #mb #morsi #egypt
@SultanAlQassemi
Al Arabiya: Egypt opposition says there is a list of 40 people to be arrested including El Baradei and Hamdeen Sabbahi
polly7
(20,582 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Thanks for your support. Solidarity
Catherina
(35,568 posts)@SultanAlQassemi
Al Arabiya: 6th of April rejects Morsy's call for talks #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gigi Ibrahim ?@Gsquare86
إم بي سي مصر: القبض علي ممدوح حمزة بتهمة التحريض http://is.gd/cMBz97 Mamdouh Hamza has been arrested
Gigi Ibrahim ?@Gsquare86
Opposition leaders are being arrested; Hamdeen Sabahy and Mamdouh Hamza so far, are they going to arrest more?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nancy Messieh ?@nfm
Insane @SameralAtrush Mahmud Hamza's head of office has been arrested, police say. report that Sabbahi evaded arrest
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gigi Ibrahim ?@Gsquare86
It is not confirmed despite being spread in news, Mahmoud Saad said that Sabahy & Hamza are safe
US journalists on the ground aren't falling for it either. Example of many Andrew Carvin from NPR.
Andy Carvin ?@acarvin
What's their source? RT @Egypture_: BREAKING: AlWatan says MB militia arrested Mamdouh Hamza #Egypt #Cairo #tahrir
Nada Wassef ?@Nadawassef
@acarvin acc to Mahmoud Saad,Talkshow host,both Hamdeen and Hamza are safe and evaded arrest. #Egypt
marlyn ?@virtualactivism
So it is NOT correct that anyone was arrested? not Hamdein and not Hamza? public prosectutor's office said that
Ahmed Ateyya ?@Ateyya ((respected Journalist))
- Confirmed: Mamdooh Hamza has NOT been arrested!
- A very trusted source confirmed to me now that there some ppl were trying to kidnap Hamdeen Sabbahy
Catherina
(35,568 posts)SlipknotMody ?@SlipknotMody
The #MB shot a journalist in his head with a live bullet for taking clear pictures of them holding guns, rifles, shooting protesters. #Egypt
polly7
(20,582 posts)"A witness told Reporters Without Borders that Morsi supporters deliberately targeted Deif, who works for the newspaper Al-Fagr. Five minutes before he was shot from a distance of just two metres, he showed colleagues photos of the presidents supporters with sophisticated weapons. His camera was stolen after he was shot, as colleagues went to his aid.
Other journalists were injured during the night as they covered the clashes. They included Mohamed Azouz of the government newspaper Al-Gomhuria, Osama Al-Shazly of the daily Al-Badil, Islam Abdel Tawab of Al-Alam Al-Yawm, Sahar Talaat, a correspondent for Radio France Internationales Spanish service and an ON-TV journalist"
http://www.bikyamasr.com/82433/egypts-morsi-supporters-deliberately-fire-on-journalists-covering-clashes/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)SlipknotMody ?@SlipknotMody
RT @ateyya: Breaking: MB branch in #Alexandria is under attack, police firing tear gas on protesters in front of the HQ in Cairo Mokattam
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
.@ElBaradei to address the nation in a few.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
@ElBaradei's speech MT @mostafa: spoke in the name of coalition. morsi illegitimate, refuses dialogue, calling ppl to hit the streets tmrw
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Ikhwanweb ?@Ikhwanweb
Ghozlan: We hold Minister of Interior directly responsible for the attack on Muslim Brotherhood HQ after pulling security protection
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)It cannot grow enough food in the Nile Valley and delta.
It has no way to generate enough foreign exchange to import food.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nada Wassef ?@Nadawassef
"@Sarahcarr: http://ikhwanonline.com says funeral of two MB members killed will be outside Pres. Palace tomorrow." Unwise move,again.
CORRECTION: the funeral will be at Al-Azhar. Stupid me.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Tamer El-Ghobashy ?@TamerELG
- @ghazalairshad from Cairo for @Gawker - they got it right this time http://gawker.com/5966368/attention-men-if-you-attack-a-woman-in-tahrir-square-you-might-get-your-ass-kicked-finally
Tamer El-Ghobashy
@TamerELG
Wall Street Journal @WSJ reporter covering criminal justice & sometimes world news. RT's and links are not endorsements. Opinions don't rep my employer.
....
From above, a mob sexual assault in Tahrir looks like a hurricane, picking up speed and engulfing women in a flash their screams drowned out amid the roar of protesters' chants.
On the ground, the damage that's done in a matter of minutes drags on in slow motion as familiar faces melt into the melee, leaving victims alone with grasping hands.
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Many protesters in Tahrir suspect that mob assaults are carried out by men hired by the government, since both the timing and location of the attacks are usually the same. An upcoming UK Channel 4 Unreported World documentary (airing December 7) features interviews with men who claim to have been paid to attack female protesters. Whether or not this is true, many women have been scared away from the square.
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The women emerge, "naked, bruised, and traumatized," as ambulance drivers and paramedics described the four sexually assaulted women they'd seen in Tahrir Square the previous week. While these uniformed men admit that "it's our duty to help everyone," they also provide an ever-so-thoughtful solution to lessen the burden on everyone: "Girls shouldn't be in this crowd with men."
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http://gawker.com/5966368/attention-men-if-you-attack-a-woman-in-tahrir-square-you-might-get-your-ass-kicked-finally
..Witnesses powerless to intervene against the horde in a mob sexual assault can tweet the location to @TahrirBodyguard, which immediately dispatches several uniformed volunteers to respond...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Jonathan Rashad ?@JonathanRashad
Anti-Morsi protesters and police clashing now on a side street, behind the Muslim Brotherhood headquarters in Moqattam. Rocks and molotovs.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Basil El-Dabh ?@BasilElD
Hamdeen Sabahy to release a statement soon.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Jano Charbel ?@JanoCharbel
Protests & scuffles outside N Cairo District Attorney Office in Heliopolis. People calling 4 release of arrested protesters #EgyPigs deployed
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Bel Trew - بل ترو ?@Beltrew
Minor clashes few streets from presidential palace by Awil Haroun (sorry terrible spelling) btwn pro and anti brotherhood groups #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Highlights from Egypt, Dec 6 2012 (Part 3): http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021938539