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13-Year-Old Girl Asks Easy Bake Oven To End Sexist Ads: I Want My Brother To Know That Its Not Wrong To Cook
Thirteen year old Mckenna Popes little brother loves to cook. But when he watches the commercials for a product hes hoping to get for Christmas the Easy Bake Oven he only sees girls playing with the toy. Because of that, he believes that only girls play with it.
Pope is hoping to change that perception with a video and a petition. She is asking Hasboro maker of the Easy Bake Oven to start putting boys in their commercials, so that her little brother sees its okay for boys to cook:
Boys are not featured in packaging or promotional materials for Easy Bake Ovens this toy my brothers always dreamed about. And the oven comes in gender-specific hues: purple and pink.
I feel that this sends a clear message: women cook, men work.
I want my brother to know that its not wrong for him to want to be a chef, that its okay to go against what society believes to be appropriate. There are, as a matter of fact, a multitude of very talented and successful male culinary geniuses, i.e. Emeril, Gordon Ramsey, etc. Unfortunately, Hasbro has made going against the societal norm that girls are the ones in the kitchen even more difficult.
Watch her appeal:
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/12/03/1274581/easy-bake-oven/
sarisataka
(18,732 posts)real tools to help me around the house. My son loves baby dolls. I tell them it is ok to do and play what they like.
She will be self-sufficient and he will be a good father. I think not locking my kids into stereotypes will make them better adults.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)sarisataka
(18,732 posts)sir- but I work for a living. OTH my initials are 'mam' so I will assume a typo
and Thank You
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)And you're welcome.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Some of our top chefs are men. Get him to watch Iron Chef he will be amazed.
My uncle can't boil water.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)It stems back to sexist social norms of professional chefs being men because "women belong home in the kitchen".
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)The dad accidentally shoots a swan and he decides to make a coat for the little girl in the family.
Even though the mother is the one who makes almost all their clothes, when it's time to make something special, the dad does it, even though there's no indication that he's ever sewn so much as a button before.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Been a long time since I've read the books........
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Ma had taken the swans skin from its careful wrappings, and cut from it a little hood. The skin was so delicate that Ma trusted no one else to handle that; she sewed every stitch of the hood herself. But she let Laura and Carrie piece out the lining, of scraps of blue silk from the scrap bag. After Ma sewed the swans-down hood to the lining, it would not tear.
Then Ma looked again in the scrap bag, and chose a large piece of soft blue woolen cloth, that had once been her best winter dress. Out of it she cut a little coat. Laura and Carrie sewed the seams and pressed them; Mary put the tiny stitches in the hem at the bottom. Then on the coat Ma sewed a collar of the soft swans-down, and put narrow swans-down cuffs on the sleeves.
The blue coat trimmed with the white swans-down, and the delicate swans-down hood with its lining as blue as Graces eyes, were beautiful.
Its like making dolls clothes, Laura said.
Grace will be lovelier than any doll, Mary declared.
Oh, lets put them on her now! Carrie cried, dancing in her eagerness.
But Ma had said the coat and the hood must be laid away until Christmas, and they were. They were waiting now for tomorrow morning to come.
I'm not saying you are wrong but can you provide some examples? A chef is a person who has been trained and recieve a culinary degree. A cook is a self taught person. Some famous cooks are Racheal Ray and Nigella Lawson who both say they are cooks not chefs. Cat Cora and Julia Childs are trained chefs.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)like "Top Chef" and "The Next Iron Chef." It's always "Chef" for all contestants. Always.
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)Chef means "chief" in both French and German. Anyone with Chef in his or her title has a leadership role in the kitchen brigade. Men were the chefs because they thought women couldn't lead.
(I edited this to add a war story. I was reading a German language document and came upon the title 'chef des nachtrichten.' I knew 'nachtrichten' is German for 'information' but 'chef' - do they have a kitchen down there or something? I really thought this guy was a cook until someone told me the German army calls commanders and leaders chefs.)
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)Surely there is not another language that is so slipshod and systemless, and so slippery and elusive to the grasp. One is washed about in it, hither and thither, in the most helpless way; and when at last he thinks he has captured a rule which offers firm ground to take a rest on amid the general rage and turmoil of the ten parts of speech, he turns over the page and reads, "Let the pupil make careful note of the following exceptions." He runs his eye down and finds that there are more exceptions to the rule than instances of it. So overboard he goes again, to hunt for another Ararat and find another quicksand. Such has been, and continues to be, my experience. Every time I think I have got one of these four confusing "cases" where I am master of it, a seemingly insignificant preposition intrudes itself into my sentence, clothed with an awful and unsuspected power, and crumbles the ground from under me....
I bet YOU know who said that.. Hehe
FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)Kali
(55,017 posts)(I got a creepy crawler machine that year, those who know me can laugh)
when my son was at that age he was interested in cooking so we got him an easybake oven. it was pink and so obviously aimed at girls I was kind of repulsed. even barbie wasn't as freaking pink when I was a kid. WTF? he didn't care about the color because we didn't have too much exposure to commercials and other kids that would have influenced him at that age.
it is like the marketing got more stereotyped as real people became less so.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)I also cross toys beyond the gender line with my kids.
a creepy crawler machine,damn thing would burn the hell out of you.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Kali
(55,017 posts)parents wouldn't spring for that stuff
oh they were gross weren't they, nothing like gummy worms and such nowadays
why we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways and our plasticy edible bugs tasted like crap
Kali
(55,017 posts)and also how the goo would stain anything it got spilled on.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I had Barbies and they weren't so relentlessly pink
I have two little nieces and so many of their clothes and toys are pink! Or lavender, purple, what have you.
For her birthday, I bought one of the girls a green shirt - just so she'd have something in another color!
It's beyond ridiculous.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...For whatever reason (perhaps because of Disney movies of the 90's created new "princesses" like the little Mermaid, etc., and had heroines who little girls could identify with) there was a "girly" zeitgeist involving little girls wanting uber-girly things--All American Girl dolls, Disney Princesses, etc. This brought in so much money (as with Barbie, there were accessories, special teas, special beauty parlors, stores), that toy companies gave up on trying to be gender neutral and went into gender-over-drive, especially in regards to the ultra feminine. Which usually meant making things pink, lavender, and decked with hearts or flowers. Toy Story 2 actually joked about this when the toys are wandering through Al's Toy Barn and find themselves down an aisle that is all pink. Not only were girls toys retro-ed back to pink and stereotypically feminine, but toys for girls were also segregated. The toy makers and stores were to blame for this new wave of gender bias, but, to be fair, they were just doing what is done in our society whenever something catches on. They went after what would make them money. If little girls at that time wanted to be princesses, with frilly dresses and everything pretty and pink, then that is what the toy makers and stores would provide.
The irony, of course, was that these new princesses started off as strong heroines for girls to identify with, but went sideways down the "I want to wear pretty dresses and a tiara" path; and as popularity breeds more of whatever seems to be popular, this snowballed into more movies, like the Princess Diaries, which re-inforced the idea of little girls wanting frilly princess-y things. And the further irony is that grown women were on board as well. What was "Sex and the City" but stories of uber-feminine "princesses" with closets full of pretty dresses, focusing only on romance and expensive lunches?
Of course, the princess frenzy is dying down if not dead (recent princess movies from "The Princess and the Frog" to "Tangled" to "Brave" haven't fared well. Girls seem to be going for poor heroines like the one in Hunger Games). But the princess phenomena was so easy to make and market, that it's hard for makers and marketers to give it up. Until something equal easy to make and market to little girls becomes wildly popular, they won't give up hoping that the pink princess stuff can still make them money. Nor are they going to give a second thought to the message it sends to both girls and boys.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)According to the Wiki article, the original ones were yellow or turquoise.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)and "comments disabled" is a wise move.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)K&R
edited to add: I played with the little green army things when I was little. I played flag football. I also played with Barbies.
texshelters
(1,979 posts)I agree with the comment above. Watch a cooking show that features men and women and buy Paul Prodhomme or other cooking book featuring a male chef along with Julia Childs or whatever he likes.
Peace,
Tex Shelters
Javaman
(62,532 posts)as a boy, I would have loved to make my own tasty treats.
As a result, I just helped my mom in the kitchen. It turned out I was the only one on my dorm floor that could cook spaghetti sauce from scratch. I made a lot of money that semester. lol
dsc
(52,166 posts)I was amazed at how many adult males literally couldn't do any cooking whatsoever. I was by no means a chef but man. Oh, and how to you thicken your sauce. I have always had that problem of having to trade fresh homemade taste for thickness.
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)If you use canned tomatoes in your sauce, drain the juice into a cup, add a tablespoon of cornstarch to half of it, mix till smooth and add to the sauce. Cook for half an hour then see if it's thick enough. If not, repeat with the rest of the juice.
If it's fresh for you, water will work.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Boys that get caught playing with "girl" toys will be ruthlessly bullied.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No shit.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)he wanted one.I had one when I was a kid.Male or female,I don't know how any kid resists the lure of the Easy Bake Oven,YOU GET TO MAKE YOUR OWN CAKES!!
My son grew up to be a great cook and a major foodie.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Can Fieri even cook? Not being snarky, but I've only seen him cruise around the US and eat.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and it was pounded in to the ground like a tent peg by the reviewers. I have never seen reviews that awful in years of being a foodie and fan of restaurant reviews. Fieri (born Guy Ferry) is a douche supreme.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)I think I've seen him cook a few times.
But the guy is rich!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I don't think I've ever, actually, seen him cook.
Boy the NY Times tore his place a new one in their review, too.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)His Wiki Page is pretty interesting. There's more to him than meets the eye. He's no dummy that's for sure.
This is a pretty good insight into how popular he is especially with men:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fieri
(Bolding is mine)
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Can he cook tho or is it just his personality that carries him? Or is it both?
Little Star
(17,055 posts)blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Cause RR has a few shows and she can't cook.
And it was an honest ?.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)I thought I was giving a serious answer. The Food Network Star competition/show is chefs/cooks compete in a cook-off type setting.
I wasn't trying to be snarky. So I apologize if I came off that way.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)In a mood lately
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)My daughter can't stand it, and even when she was an infant I often bought clothing intended for boys because I was sick of the pink avalanche.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Well said.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)My daughter likes purple, but she's seen so much pink in her short little 5-year-old life, I doubt she wants to see it much again.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)And her mommy (my daughter) goes bananas with that stuff, *everything* is pink or purple. They talk about having another one sometime and they can't re-use anything if they get a boy next time? Arghh.
Mariana
(14,859 posts)and she dyed everything blue for him, except the dresses of course.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)I would say over half of the clothes for girls are pink or purple,
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)and hard to find boy's clothes that aren't sports-related.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)I have long been damn sick & tired of items marketed to women being colored pink too. Little lady want a hammer? HERE'S A PINK ONE!! Aw, does she need a tape measure too? HERE'S A PINK ONE!!!
And don't get me started on all the pink-colored crap that allegedly supports breast cancer research.
Last year, our local women's bar association decided to get T shirts. We had a really good design to go on them, but the president wanted the T shirts to be pink so we'd be "cute." Oh hello, did I just wake up in an alternate universe where women lawyers have to be "cute?" Hell to the No!!
I lobbied, harder than I should have had to, for the T shirts to be in suffragette colors: purple (violet really) & white. I won, but damn.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)sometimes, depending on whether I like the shade that's available at the time, but pinkified everything?
James48
(4,437 posts)the Easy Bake Oven doesn't work very well with a fluorescent coil light bulb.....
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)it's "Hasbro", not "Hasboro".
Second, cooking IS work.
But I get the point, and it's perfectly valid.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)I always liked to cook as a boy and my mother would teach me all the family standard meals, except for baking from scratch.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Quixote1818
(28,955 posts)As a boy I really wanted to make a cake just like in the photo!!! Never had the guts to ask for one though.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)jmowreader
(50,561 posts)Get him a toaster oven. He'll love it. He'll use it far longer than he would the little toy thing that will bore him quick. Easy Bake Ovens don't teach anyone anything except how to play with an Easy Bake Oven. And yes, little brothers can be taught to be safe with real appliances.
Better: after he opens the toaster oven and is very happy, take a picture of him with it and send it to Hasbro labeled "I was going to get him an Easy Bake Oven, but because they only come in pink I got him a Real Oven instead."
Kali
(55,017 posts)brilliant! plus you can make cakes a little bigger than a cookie in it. damn wish I would have though of this!
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)I have enough things to worry about without adding the color of an EZ-Bake oven to the list. As long as you teach them only to use the toaster oven while supervised, they can learn to make real food. Even if they decide not to be a chef, it teaches self-sufficiency.
(Coming from the guy who once set milk on fire)
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I thought they looked cool and fun. I never ended up getting the toy - probably because my parents thought it was a toy meant for girls.
I remember my grandfather and father getting a little upset when my little brother and I decided that we wanted to sew cloth together to make pillows just like my grandmother (I was probably 8 years old). I remember specifically being told that sewing was for girls.
What is funny is that my two daughters and I were going through the toy section of a department store yesterday when my oldest daughter (she is 4 years old) asked "why are all the girl toys pink?". "I don't know. I don't have a good answer" is all I could tell her.
I don't think my "feminine" desires to sew or to bake when I was a little boy curbed my masculinity in any sense. If anything, it made me a more well rounded and understanding person. I'll stand up to the "manliest" of men (those who think things like taking care of children, baking, or sewing is beneath them and only fit for women to do) and point to my combat valor awards and tell them what being a "real" man is all about.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I don't know, your dad might have been right. You might have dodged a bullet there....
:0) I did turn out to be a 6'1, 50 inch chest manliest of gay men though. (and it ended up I hated sewing so that lasted all of...two weeks?)
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Instead of getting hit with the "gay" bullet, I stepped in front of "real" bullets. I was definitely better off doing that
The notion that a person could be "converted" because of what they do when they are a little boy is almost funny to me - except that it is so tragic that being gay is considered a bad thing by much of our society.
I never understood why gay men were somehow considered less manly than straight men. Simple math in my head tells me that gay men are more manly by default than straight men. What is more manly? Manly men doing manly things with other men or manly men doing manly things with women?
Hopefully my two daughters won't turn out gay. I've been exposing them to all sorts of masculine influences like science, carpentry, the color blue, mechanics, etc. A responsible parent should have them submersed completely in pink princesses and easy-bake ovens and I need to get those dinosaurs and toy cars out of their room at once!
I hope you can pick up on my attempt on humor. Thanks for your post
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)really awesome with a dad like you!
I come from an all military family. Mom, dad, brother, lots of cousins, etc. Many are career.
It was always harsh, knowing from a young age that I was gay, that I was not going to be able to join the military. It really did some damage to my ego when I was younger. My dad had me in judo and self-defense, I can shoot like nobody's business, I grew up bucking hay bales that weighed almost as much as I did...but the military didn't want me.
So, it was a big thing to repeal don't as don't tell in my house. And I can't express how proud I was of our military's reaction to it: "so what?" basically. (Same reaction as my military friends when I told them I was gay).
Have a great day Victor!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I think they will be just fine!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Kudos to you, sir.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)"I would call a "man" a person who will do anything that needs to get done while treating others with respect and dignity.
I like to think that I'm more "manly" than most out there because of my proven ability to stand up in any situation and take care of what needs to get done. My toddler is sick and throwing up in the night. What does a man like me do? Does a "real man" wake up his wife to get her to deal with it or does he get up, hold his daughter while she is crying and throwing up on his shoulder and chest, clean her up, and fall asleep with her in his arms? "
I kind of hate the term "man" to describe someone of character like that. So many women fit the above description a lot better than many guys I know and I don't mean to take anything away from them. My daughters will grow up to be exemplary in their actions just like me. Hopefully they won't have to prove it in some of the same ways I have.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)that also have to know sewing, like medics/doctors, military personnel (socks get holes!), fishermen, and upholsterers
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)I can't say I'd be a good medic, though. I don't mind my own blood, but that of anyone else, well...
juajen
(8,515 posts)Number two on my list. A nice plus, is that he will never starve. Hooray for cooks, male or female. We have too much ordering or going out for food around here.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)And that is despite the fact that I was deprived an easy bake oven when I was a kid.
My parents have own and run a small restaurant my whole life. My father was the only cook and my mother was one of three waitresses. I learned by emulating what my father did. It's funny that I don't know a single woman who can or likes to cook. Cooking food from anything other than from a box is a skill that not a lot of people have - and cooking from a box is pushing it for the people I know.
My daughters are definitely growing up with influences contrary to the gender norms our society perpetuates. They have a dad who cooks and cleans and a mom who is the smart/educated one in the family (she is just shy of having two Masters degrees). I'm a chemist for the federal government and I've been doing my best to make sure that my daughters will be strong in math and science. They're going to either be messed up or empowered (I tend to think empowered is going to be result).
maindawg
(1,151 posts)I loved to eat cake. So I would have loved having my own easy bake oven right in my room. But we didnt even have a tv in our room.
My sister had one, and it was not fair. I think there is a huge untapped market out there for easy bake oven and I am surprised they havent thought of it. They must be stuuuuuupid.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I wanted to eat those danged cakes!!!!
I ended up buying one at a garage sale in college just because...well, because I could. but I never ended up using it so I sold it on ebay. (it was a cool vintage 50s one)
whistler162
(11,155 posts)since he and his father use the grownup oven. His mom doesn't cook, safely that is. His father, my brother, is teaching him to sew, cook, and has him taking rifle safety classes(newphew won a 1/2 off life time hunting and fishing license). In addition to the long distance cycling, speed skating, and xcross country.
Just finished a piece of my nephews apple pie, don't tell him but it could have used tarter apples. Weird for a kid who never really eats.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)gifts he wants always feature girls on the boxes. It doesn't stop me from buying them -- makes him happy.
But that's not the point. Packaging should feature both boys and girls to reflect a more accurate picture. I think toy companies would end up selling more product.
My mom got an Easy Bake Oven for me at a yard sale. I loved that thing! I remember it being yellow and brown.
catbyte
(34,418 posts)BF Debbie Williams and I decided to make dessert before we were called to dinner by my folks. Halfway through dinner the house began filling with the nauseating smell of burned plastic and chocolate coming from my Easy Bake Oven. Dad opened the oven door to see melted plastic & raw chocolate cake batter dripping all over the light bulb, out the door & towards the carpet. Dad was so mad he immediately unplugged the oven and cut off the plug with his pocket knife. That was the end of my culinary career until I started to bake--at age 10--my first real cake, dad's birthday cake, reading an actual recipe and using our real oven. It was a chocolate Wacky Cake, and it's still the best chocolate cake recipe on earth.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Brainwashing people into "proper sex roles" starts ar birth, when boys are given blue caps and girls pink ones.
At the thrift store I work at the little boy clothes are in all different colors, while over half of the little girl clothes are pink or purple.
I find it sickening that "normal" toys are marked to boys, while girls have pink version of the same toy market to them.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and only date guys that can cook...it kinda works out in the end
kentauros
(29,414 posts)When she visits in a few months, I'll be the one cooking (and likely baking, as she's requested a carrot cake, too.)
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)You rock, kid!
Paulie
(8,462 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)you are hope for the future
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treestar
(82,383 posts)And he liked to watch cooking shows on TV! His Dad does a lot of cooking, too.
I think it a terrible shame that boys are locked out of so many activities for fear of it not being masculine. It seems to get worse and worse. Anything artistic at all seems proscribed.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)But I think it was more about making and eating that little cake than it was about wanting to know how to cook.
I do remember wanting a female action figure when I was a kid. She was part of the Johnny West collection.
I had Johnny and the little boy, but I really wanted the woman one. My mom wouldn't get it for me, though.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Action figures are in my mind actually dolls but acceptable to society for boys. Funny that set included the women! They were part of the story.
My brother had GI Joe and we borrowed him to have a man in the dollhouse.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)It seems to me that girls are encouraged to play sports and yet at the same time still be able to play with their dolls, etc. Things seem more rigid for boys.
I have two daughters at 8 and 7 and they love to play with their dolls, dress up, do their hair and nails but also love to play outside, like bugs, and love their sports. Both want to play soccer. A lot of their friends are like this. But the boys seem afraid to branch out and be looked at in a non macho way. When we have boys that they are friends with come over our house, they want to play with my girls' toys but seem hesitant at first. I always encourage them to enjoy whatever interests them.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Masculinity is so fragile compared to femininity. The girls play with the older boys' toys when the boys get too old for them,because they are there. I've seen little girls move a car or truck and "v-room v-room" just the same as boys. But boys can't pretend to take care of a doll, and yet, their dads do a lot more real baby care-taking than our fathers of the 50s and 60s did.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)and pink is for girls.
He responded that all colors are for everybody, and his dad's favorite color is purple.
It would be great if they came out with a toy in a less Barbie Vomit color scheme. But pink isn't contaminating, and we need to get over this pink versus primary colors gender coding both by not doing it and by not training boys to recoil in horror from the dreaded "girl colors" in the first place.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And he may not get to learn how to do basic cooking in the Boys Scouts as I did, thirty-some-odd years ago.
Now if Hasbro is smart, they'll make a "Junior Chef" toy of some kind, and incorporate the Easy Bake Oven into that miniature chef's kitchen
What's interesting about advertising is that they continue the stereotypes of only the woman knowing how to cook in a kitchen yet the man is akin to an Executive Chef when it comes to the backyard grill. It seems they like to carry those stereotypes over to the kids, too.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)When I was a kid cooking was my passion and my grandparents and mother were completely unsupportive and told me it wasn't gender appropriate and to this day my mother and grandmother think I wasted my intelligence
hardluck
(639 posts)When he was 4. He's almost 7 now and pretty much has outgrown it. He loves to cook and bake. For thankgiving, he helped me with the pumpkin pie.
I dont remember him every saying it was a girl toy, but then again he's seen me do almost all of the cooking in our family.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)a professional grade ice cream maker. He is obsessed with ice cream and wants to own an ice cream store one day. I saw some cheapo plastic ice cream makers at the grocery store during the summer but if I'm going to buy him one it's going to be a good one. I remember making ice cream one year when I was little. It was so fun. I'd like to see the cleaning product companies start using men in their commercials. My daughter, my husband and I all get tired of seeing cleaning products targeted to women.
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)There are some products that obviously have to be gender targeted; underwear is one. But household products? Not only do they sell to women but they portray men as idiots in the process.
One product that SHOULD be sold to men is pregnancy tests. Lots of men get sent for these...as in because you were too selfish to wear a rubber you are going to stand there and watch your Sunday afternoon drunken football parties disappear. But they don't know what to buy, because the ads are all in places men don't look.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)When I was a kid, I loved using my step sister's easy bake oven. I'm not a chef, mind you, but there's no such thing to me as a "gender stereotype" anymore; if a woman wants to stay home with her children and the man wants to go out and earn the money, then that should be their CHOICE, not an obligation.
Just like the reverse; if the man wants to stay home with his children and the woman wants to work, it should be a choice, not an obligation.
The 1950's are over. This is 2012.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)It was much worse a few decades ago, but it's still STUPID.
(edit- NOT that all that stuff can't be fun, but anyone who's not a dumb d!ck knows what I mean.)
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)You listed all the stuff my two daughters love to do. I'm not sure what's stupid about them loving those activities.
vilify
(102 posts)The toys are marketed to girls because it's for girls.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and loved it. By the time I was in my 20s I was a serious foodie. My mom always said if you could read and follow instructions you could teach yourself how to cook. So I did. I still love to cook, especially Italian food and Hunan/Sichuan Chinese. Most of the best home cooks I know are guys whose wives are more than happy to let them handle the kitchen duties.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I was so envious of my sister for hers, but didn't realize until later in life that the stuff from the Easy Bake oven was crap.
I should have been helping my mom in the kitchen and learning how to cook. Real cooking, not that gross packaged junk from Easy Bake lol. Girls from my grandmother's generation would be in the kitchen from a young age learning how to cook real food, I think every kid nowadays should be taught how to cook for themselves rather than Easy Bake and then McDonald's when they grow up.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)the whole toy kitchen set up when they were young. What a waste that was! Only one of them actually played with it. The rest were to busy playing gas station on their big wheels along with catching bugs or frogs.
Children, be they boys or girls, should be allowed to play with any type toy they want.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)not sure why people think there is anything bigger going on here than trying to market and sell a product.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)But I do agree that toy makers are all about marketing and selling.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)He was brought up very macho, so when our son wanted to play with his older sister's dolls my husband said no. I'm not sure he would make the same decision today. He has shed a lot of the bigoted prejudices he was brought up with. It took a while but he got there.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)We learned how to cook, and every single one of us siblings helped.
Granted, my sisters were better at getting away with it. So in the end, us boys cooked more than the girls.
Also, my mother doesn't know how to cook. My father always did.
We learned how to debone meat and do things like that. Heck, cutting up meat and skinning things is manly dangit!
Thing is, in regards to cooking and gender roles, it just never came up. ((Other than being told that I should be able to cook for a special somebody))
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)What a great video! Thanks for sharing.