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FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:26 PM Dec 2012

My rant about "The War on Christmas" ...from a disturbed mom

I can remember the first holiday event we had at my school that did NOT include traditional Christmas songs... my new principal was Jewish, and decided to include a more rounded view of the holiday as an educational tool. My mom was upset, but still, it was 1980 and we still called it a Christmas Pageant too...

Fast forward to our little school in our little school district...high in the Northern CA mtns, where you would think that tolerance would be held in very high regard.
(disclaimer: I AM a religious/spiritual person, I happen to love my little Lutheran church, but also attend the Unity as well...I attend a Native American circle and practice ceremony that may look Pagan as well... I believe there is nothing wrong with faith and the practice of honoring divinity in our surroundings. I think in a lot of ways, quantum field IS God...etc.etc... so I am not usually one to bitch about "bringing GOD back" into our schools or the usual fundie approach to this.... BUT, that being said....)

So, my kid comes home this year with his songs for the "holiday music assembly" and there is a really long Rap song called 'YO! YO! YO! Chrismas.' This song includes lyrics to the effect of :

"stick it, stick it in"
"wrap it baby"
"tie it up"
and the worst... "you know you want it"

sorry, but my 4th grader has no business saying those things, and WTF a RAP SONG???
All about presents presents presents!!!??
My boyfriend actually stopped him from singing it around his 6 year old, we told him it wasn't appropriate, and he gets it.

I got pissed... here's my letter to the teacher and the school:

Dear Mrs. ___ & Principal ____;

I have noted the 'political correctness' movement has prevented us from singing most traditional Christmas songs...Even our usual Christmas Event is now a "Holiday" event.
This is fine, I understand the need for removing certain religious things from our mainstream so that others won't be offended. (though personally, Christmas is not Christmas without some Joy to the World or Little Town of Bethlehem...)

However, what you put in its place is JUST as important.

I am Seriously offended and upset by the YoYoYo Christmas Rap that this class is doing. Telling the kids they "know they want it" and to "stick it in" is NOT what Christmas is about! I will be keeping him home the day of the performance,

AND I request that he be allowed to go and read instead of practicing these songs. I don't want those thoughts or words even in his head, it's just wrong. He has to catch up on reading points anyway, so let him do something quiet instead...
...

In fact, ALL religions celebrate the return of LIGHT at this time of year...why can't we teach the kids the REAL lesson behind the meaning? The Winter Solstice was an important time for our ancestors, and the return of the Sun was a literal return of Life for those who lived off the bounty of the Earth. Jesus, among others, are important symbols of that Light and Life...what's wrong with celebrating that? It's surely more Life affirming and positive of a message than "gimme-gimme" and "what can I get?"
I thought this was supposed to be a time to re-affirm the qualities of Peace, Brotherhood of Mankind, and Charity...
Please reconsider the direction you are taking with this Celebration.



My next step is to send them a page of research/links I have found to show the Solstice Celebrations of Hindu/Chinese/ Native American/ etc. cultures ...I intend to ask them if they would like me to present a 20-30 minute piece on "Christmas around the World" to the classes.

If you can't beat 'em, educate 'em!
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My rant about "The War on Christmas" ...from a disturbed mom (Original Post) FirstLight Dec 2012 OP
What sort of teacher would present this as an appropriate song for 4th graders? BanzaiBonnie Dec 2012 #1
I just don't think they are THINKING FirstLight Dec 2012 #2
I think you're right on ALL of your points! LeftofObama Dec 2012 #3
Uh, when you use the phrase "political correctness" kath Dec 2012 #4
Well I got a response... FirstLight Dec 2012 #5
wow, good for you!! Celebration Dec 2012 #8
i suppose they were trying to be "hip" FirstLight Dec 2012 #9
I'm not a prude but I am really disgusted by the AGE at which children are exposed to this stuff renate Dec 2012 #6
seriously! FirstLight Dec 2012 #7
I don't have kids nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #10

BanzaiBonnie

(3,621 posts)
1. What sort of teacher would present this as an appropriate song for 4th graders?
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:39 PM
Dec 2012

Schools don't usually promote double entendre. Do they?

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
2. I just don't think they are THINKING
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

...and thanks for 'getting it'
...I hoped I wasn't being too much of a prude, but my kids even 'get it'...and my boyfriends reaction was priceless! not only the rapping (which is SOOOOO not our town/type of people) but the words...he came into the room and said...did you hear that?! with his eyes all wide... so I went and looked at the page and practically fell over...!

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
3. I think you're right on ALL of your points!
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:00 PM
Dec 2012

I don't have children, but this is way off base! Teaching them offensive lyrics and promoting greed on top of that? WTF is wrong with these people?

kath

(10,565 posts)
4. Uh, when you use the phrase "political correctness"
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:09 PM
Dec 2012

you make yourself sound like a right-winger.
Just sayin'.

(I totally agree with you that the rap song is inappropriate)

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
5. Well I got a response...
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:06 PM
Dec 2012

Both my kids are in the 4th & 5th grade classes... I thought the 4th grade class was the only one doing the stupid songs.

Anyway, here's the brief response, following my offer to present some info on the Solstice and celebrations we see in all countries...

Thanks for your input. The 4th and 5th grade teachers spoke with The Principal nand agreed to alter our program.
If you want both of your children to opt out of the performance just let us know.

...still waiting to see what my kids come home and report as the 'change'...and what their teacher may have said about me too!! LOL

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
8. wow, good for you!!
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:47 AM
Dec 2012

Obviously the principal agreed with you.

Is there something wrong with these teachers?? Strange.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
9. i suppose they were trying to be "hip"
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:39 PM
Dec 2012

but ended up being LAME

they replaced the song with "Lovely weather for a sleigh-ride together.." which is at least a nice CLASSIC

my kids had no idea it was me who sent the letter, but the principal apparently walked into the classrooms and gathered the teachers and gave a 'talking to' ... he was not pleased...

I hope I wasn't the ONLY one who spoke up! sheesh!
or maybe it was my threat of going to the Newspaper that made them jump so fast... usually they just roll their eyes at the hippie rocking the boat!

renate

(13,776 posts)
6. I'm not a prude but I am really disgusted by the AGE at which children are exposed to this stuff
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:41 PM
Dec 2012

My daughter and her friend were in grade school when I was driving them around and heard them singing the words to Rhianna's S&M song. Oh my god. And while that's the saddest example I can think of, especially with Rhianna's history of being abused, there are so many crude and anatomical songs these days that must kind of freak the younger kids out.

Bad words don't bother me but songs about sex, especially the ones that are only about sex and not at all about love, should really not be on the radio at times when little kids might hear them. Of course, with the Internet and all, there's no time when children can't listen to inappropriate songs, but having them available so easily gives the impression that they're somehow okay.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
7. seriously!
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:18 PM
Dec 2012

I am right there with you...
I don;t listen to that shit anyway, but would NOT do it with the kids in the car either. Of course they have friends who listen to this stuff on iPods on the bus...so the sheltering can only go so far.
But I love the fact that both my kids actually DID get the Inappropriate nature of the song. I must have done "something" right after all

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. I don't have kids
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:45 PM
Dec 2012

But...when did rape become part of the solstice celebration in the modern period? I just did not think temple rites of ancient Assyria were part of the modern-day celebration. But hey, I am not Christian, so perhaps that's why I missed it. Must be the mysteries we non believers are never exposed to.

Good job mom!

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