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DuaneBidoux

(4,198 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:41 AM Dec 2012

"Up with Chris Hayes" is one of the greatest political shows of a long time.

If you can't get up that early then Tivo it (that's me).

It deserves to be patronized. It is the most intelligent informed indepth progressive discussions of important issues that I have heard in one HELL of a long time on American tv.

I am not a paid troll--I would love to see this show get really big. I think it would be great for our country and the general quality of all pundit programs.

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"Up with Chris Hayes" is one of the greatest political shows of a long time. (Original Post) DuaneBidoux Dec 2012 OP
I Couldn't Agree More... WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #1
Yeah he's good but MrYikes Dec 2012 #2
i'd prefer they talk about how the country could be fixed. the obsession with republicans HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3
Because a one-party system is good for a democracy? aquart Dec 2012 #4
Don't you think this is just the result of it being election times? DuaneBidoux Dec 2012 #19
As much as I love and respect Rachel and really like Lawrence O'Donnell, I think Chris is maybe the Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #5
+1 7wo7rees Dec 2012 #21
I have never watched Up before noon (and breeze through the commercials) thanks to the DVR. We plan Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #24
KICK! mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #6
It's a must-watch program in my household. klook Dec 2012 #7
his show is like inhaling pure oxygen greenman3610 Dec 2012 #8
It's on my FB feed kalli007 Dec 2012 #9
I love the liberal media :) RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #10
I agree... gblady Dec 2012 #11
I'm sure we'll see him running for office one day. And he'll have my vote. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #12
I started singing his praises musiclawyer Dec 2012 #13
He doesn't let things slide AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #14
in a class of it's own. You can actually learn stuff by watching it! G_j Dec 2012 #15
he didn't go all wierd and crazy like Ed and the rest about Obama losing that first debate? Whisp Dec 2012 #16
I would like him to check into the massive fraud and pay offs in the BP class settlement. Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #17
He certainly is Helen Reddy Dec 2012 #18
He was on last Sunday at 2 in the afternoon. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #20
One thing I appreciate that he does.... Grammy23 Dec 2012 #22
You and just about everybody on this thread took the words right out of my mouth We People Dec 2012 #23
I just watched it MrYikes Dec 2012 #25
only on "Up with Chris Hayes" Enrique Dec 2012 #26
As for widely available shows I would agree tech3149 Dec 2012 #27
Yes, yes trocar Dec 2012 #30
I think Hayes's show is already having an effect burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #28
I watch it every weekend. SalviaBlue Dec 2012 #29
It would be a good thing if one of you wrote to him MrYikes Dec 2012 #31

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
1. I Couldn't Agree More...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:03 AM
Dec 2012

I never miss it. Chris does his homework and is exceptionally quick. He has this ability to see beyond the surface and direct the dialogue...it is probably the most intelligent political show on television.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
2. Yeah he's good but
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:12 AM
Dec 2012

it seems all the shows on that channel just want to find a way to fix the republican party. That's all they talk about; the repubs did this and that, and if they only could find a way to grab the latinos, why they could take California.

I want the republicans fixed, but only in the way a veterinarian would do it.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
3. i'd prefer they talk about how the country could be fixed. the obsession with republicans
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:18 AM
Dec 2012

seems to me part & parcel with the 'horse-race,' spoils-system character of political life, with a lot of insiders more interested in who's got the power, who's in, who's out, what it means for their career --

aquart

(69,014 posts)
4. Because a one-party system is good for a democracy?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:00 AM
Dec 2012

You might want to rethink. As a New Yorker, I can promise you the one-party rule is insanely corrupt and NOT beneficial.

DuaneBidoux

(4,198 posts)
19. Don't you think this is just the result of it being election times?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

I mean this has been the topic everywhere especially since the elections.

I actually get the feeling that they might be the kind of show that if people email in issues like this they might pay attention.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
5. As much as I love and respect Rachel and really like Lawrence O'Donnell, I think Chris is maybe the
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:11 AM
Dec 2012

most impressive of them all. He strikes me as absolutely brilliant and he's a full on liberal with no apologies, but he manages to be open-minded and civil to those with whom he disagrees (something I have not begun to master.) The way he manages his show, making sure everyone gets a say and keeping things moving at lightening pace just amazes me.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
21. +1
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Dec 2012

Where Rachel has a huge heart and impeccable timing, Chris is the real lightning round. He is SO SHARP and so quick that I am surprised that the average viewer can keep up. I enjoy engaging at that level for brief spurts, especially first thing in the morning! But it could use a repeat later for a missing segment of the audience. Or something I need to think about some more after reflection.



From November's GQ:

We all say we like Meet the Press and Face the Nation, but do we ever really tune in? Up w/ Chris Hayes is the weekend-morning big-think show you actually want to watch; Hayes's ultra-wonky, deeply progressive zeal is contagious and his guests are varied, young, and engaging. No, you don't need to catch both 2-hour shows, but drop in and out—or check out the videos online—to keep up your political education. http://tv.msnbc.com/shows/up-with-chris-hayes/

Hoping he'd return the favor to those on the right, we asked Hayes to name the conservatives he reads and follows, as part of our No Bullsh*t Media Diet for the debate (and beyond). Here are his recs:

Reihan Salam, National Review: Exceedingly sharp mind, unconventional occasionally bordering on fantastical, at turns maddening and thrilling writer and thinker.
Twitter: @reihan

Robert Costa, National Review: His campaign coverage has been excellent.
Twitter: @robertcostaNRO

Tim Carney, The Washington Examiner: He is the most consistent critic of cronyism on the right, appropriately skeptical of Big Business's political prerogatives. He, too, occasionally drives me bonkers with frustration, but his attacks often bite because there's a core bit of truth to them.
Twitter: @tpcarney

The American Conservative: Totally heterodox and orthogonal to our normal political divisions. Always thought-provoking.
Twitter: @amconmag

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
24. I have never watched Up before noon (and breeze through the commercials) thanks to the DVR. We plan
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:58 AM
Dec 2012

to drop cable any day now (soon after Boardwalk Empire ends this Sunday night), so I don't know if they'll serve it up online in a way that's palatable to me, but I do hope so.

You mention that Chris is "so quick that I am surprised that the average viewer can keep up", but one of the reasons I can is that he consistently takes a second to give a definition or quick crash course when things get particularly wonky.

I don't know about the others, but I find Reihan Salam very annoying. Maybe I'd think differently if I read him rather than seeing his prickly personality. But, I don't have the time or patience to read conservative ink, which is another reason I greatly appreciate Chris (as well as Rachel, Larry, and a few other MSNBCers) keeping me Up-to-speed on what the right is saying and doing.

klook

(12,158 posts)
7. It's a must-watch program in my household.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:39 AM
Dec 2012

We record every show and watch most of them. His guests are interesting and well informed, he covers important topics, and I learn a lot every time.

greenman3610

(3,947 posts)
8. his show is like inhaling pure oxygen
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:01 AM
Dec 2012

in a desert of same old same old talking head bullshit, real talk with real smart people who
are not just the same ones you always hear from - and Hayes grasp of history and
analysis are always bracingly smart.

gblady

(3,541 posts)
11. I agree...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:23 AM
Dec 2012

He comes on at 5am PST, and I don't have tivo....
but fortunately, he posts all his shows online so I can catch them later in the day.
He is my very favorite commentator....wicked smart and passionately progressive.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
13. I started singing his praises
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:58 AM
Dec 2012

The weekend after his show started
Best news show on TV. Hands down
And they are very responsive to ideas.
I know for a fact. He has tweeted me back himself. Not his staff. And I'm just some random guy

G_j

(40,367 posts)
15. in a class of it's own. You can actually learn stuff by watching it!
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:02 PM
Dec 2012

(imagine that!)

the discussions go deeper than any other show on MSNBC or most anywhere else..
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
16. he didn't go all wierd and crazy like Ed and the rest about Obama losing that first debate?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:06 PM
Dec 2012

I don't think he did.

That makes him the smartest one at MSNBC.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
17. I would like him to check into the massive fraud and pay offs in the BP class settlement.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

I could show him where to start!

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
18. He certainly is
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:53 PM
Dec 2012

a smartie and cutie patootie...sans v-neck under suit jacket.

Was introduced to him from "The Nation" magazine when he was what? 12?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
22. One thing I appreciate that he does....
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:50 PM
Dec 2012

if he or another guest uses a term that may not be familiar to the viewers, he will ask the person to define it. It's not demeaning to me as a viewer to have him do that .... he will do the same if he is using a term himself that is not a commonly known term....I just appreciate it as it makes the experience better and I do learn from his show every time I watch it thanks in part to his habit of making sure that anyone watching the show can follow along.....even if the subject is one that may not be familiar or is a complex issue.

We People

(619 posts)
23. You and just about everybody on this thread took the words right out of my mouth
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:51 AM
Dec 2012

I can't say enough good things about the host and the show. Most informative political talk show on TV, especially for the situation we find ourselves in today. Chris Hayes is so bright, we should all break out a pair of shades when he's on the tube. Even as a guest panelist on Real Time, he was always the first to burst out laughing when something was funny. He gets so wrapped up in the discussion sometimes that his hands gesture almost as fast as his mouth can move. If more people could think and express their ideas as well as he could, our world would be a more compassionate AND more interesting place.

Obviously, we're all fans on this thread. If you haven't seen it yet, you need to do that. And recruit a friend to watch it too.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
25. I just watched it
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:34 PM
Dec 2012

and what I remember is that I want one of those coffee cups. He had very intelligent guests who opened my eyes on their subjects and I enjoyed the conversation about legal weed. But then he was done and MHP came on with a guest wearing a see through blouse that kept me from understanding anything said.
I don't watch evening msnbc because of what they said after the first debate; I don't want to have to give up watching the morning crew because of sex.
I would go back to watching Amy, but I keep falling asleep.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
26. only on "Up with Chris Hayes"
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:50 PM
Dec 2012

would you hear the conservative intellectual bubble described as "getting high on their own supply".

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
27. As for widely available shows I would agree
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:52 PM
Dec 2012

I try to make a point not to miss a show but it conflicts with radio shows that are just as informative and usually go into greater detail.
The best part about his show, and MHP, is that you hear guests that aren't part of the regular pundit class and you don't normally see or hear from them elsewhere. Add to that, it's not usually a screamfest or one guest talking down another. I hope the other commercial media take their lead.

trocar

(243 posts)
30. Yes, yes
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:44 PM
Dec 2012

I can't handle the bloviating on the Sunday shows, but Chris and MHP have become must watch on the weekends. 6am MST on weekends is still to early, but I don't miss them, thank god for Tivo.

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
28. I think Hayes's show is already having an effect
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:56 PM
Dec 2012

on political dialogue.
His statements about the inability to raise taxes as crippling to the "body politic" have already taken the wind out of Grover Norquist's sails.
I've been watching for the past six months or so, and I'm deeply impressed.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
31. It would be a good thing if one of you wrote to him
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:34 PM
Dec 2012

and ask that he come here once in a while to see what is being discussed, especially folks like xchrome and hipointdem and others like that.
Staying grounded is difficult, as it is all too easy to jump so far ahead as to become unimportant.

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