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blm

(113,065 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:24 AM Nov 2012

I don't believe one word out of McCain and Co. mouths. They want Rice.

She's a longtime neo-con in the Hillary Clinton/Joe Lieberman mode and the GOP knows damn well they can depend on her to promote interventionist policies they have traditionally agreed with throughout the last few decades. And they know they have Obama cornered into naming her by their dog and pony show of opposition.

I am one citizen who does not believe the position of Secretary of State should be filled by a hawk or a neo-con.

I have no qualms with a neo-con or hawk serving as an advisor to the President, as all options and views should be discussed thoroughly by any president and his team. I just want the State Department led by someone who sees diplomatic success as the goal, not as a stepping stone to interventionism and war.

BTW...Since when do Democrats and left media believe that McCain and his chorus of GOP senators are utterly sincere in their stated attacks on Rice?

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coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. He's being held in reserve for when the spot of interplanetary
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nov 2012

ambassador needs a qualified person

JK - I worked on Kucinich's 2004 campaign, after Dean flamed out.

On a serious note, wouldn't it be great if Obama proposed the creation of a Department of Peace and nominated Kucinich to run it? I'm not holding my breath.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
3. Agreed,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

plus most of her several millions are invested in Canadian Oil companies.... Of course they want her.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. I assume her great wealth was inherited from her father, President of the Federal
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

Reserve as he was, because her own resume does not indicate any period of time working that could result in those tens of millions she has.

blm

(113,065 posts)
7. I'm not against Rice as an advisor to Obama or as UN ambassador, I think she's more than competent
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:16 PM
Nov 2012

in those roles and in representing the WH in those roles. I just don't want a neocon heading the State Department when there are better choices. I didn't want Hillary as SoS and I don't want Rice.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
4. It may be, however, the SOS does the bidding of the President, not "their" agenda. Can you name a
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:32 AM
Nov 2012

SOS to me who wasn't a hawk or neo-con since Cyrus Vance?

blm

(113,065 posts)
5. To a point. Sec of State gives their best advisement and their commitment to diplomacy should
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

be unremarkable. Neocons have always been too willing to intervene militarily before diplomatic measures have been exhausted.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
11. Rice opposed the surge in Iraq. And she is a leading voice inside the Administration on behalf of
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Nov 2012

Human Rights issues. Have you stopped for once to think about whether Rice's push for intervention is driven by her human rights concerns more than a desire to shed blood? War is often needed to stop evil, in the last 100 years, countless cases of where war arrested evil and actually saved lives once the larger picture was known.

blm

(113,065 posts)
12. Of course I consider that as I look at the entire history of the last 6 decades post WW2.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

And, I wonder why more Dems do not show any considered interest in putting history and the history of neocon movement in its proper perspective.

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