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Stormy knows Trump doesn't have balls to testify: "Real men respond to testimony by being sworn in & taking the stand" (Original Post) kpete May 9 OP
A real innocent man would testify and refute the Prosecution's case. He can't do that, either. OAITW r.2.0 May 9 #1
Agreed, but that criminal defendant is confident his extreme court will bail him out... Justice matters. May 9 #27
And the silver lining is he's destroying the gop. rubbersole May 9 #31
Usually not a good idea, even if you're innocent. NanaCat May 10 #40
I think it would be wise for her not to post until after the trial Raven123 May 9 #2
She is not under a gag order and poses no threat to traitortrump. Hermit-The-Prog May 9 #4
Trump asked the judge to let him talk in public about Stormy's testimony. Irish_Dem May 9 #7
Has TFG spoken out about her testimony? I guess I missed it Raven123 May 9 #11
He asked the judge to modify his gag order so he can slam Stormy. Irish_Dem May 9 #16
And the judge declined Raven123 May 9 #17
Yes and he didn't silence Stormy. Irish_Dem May 9 #18
No, but he may loosen TFG's gag order, depending on her posts Raven123 May 9 #20
I seriously doubt that NanaCat May 10 #41
Agreed. TomSlick May 10 #43
Big mistake gab13by13 May 9 #3
Can you explain that, please? Why would the judge have to allow witness intimidation? Hermit-The-Prog May 9 #5
SHE is not the defendant! n/t North Shore Chicago May 9 #6
She is not a defendant with a gag order, not on trial. Irish_Dem May 9 #8
No, ut depending on what she says, the judge can modify TFG's gag order Raven123 May 9 #12
Trump is the one who puts people in danger. Irish_Dem May 9 #14
The judge will not gag TFG and let witnesses attack him with impunity Raven123 May 9 #19
Speaking the truth about him NanaCat May 10 #42
I don't think she's crossed the line yet, but the judge could view a Trump-related post of hers pnwmom May 9 #26
This is like Cohen talking too much. TomSlick May 10 #44
No, he will not. ZZenith May 9 #9
The judge has already said rhe order may be modified if witnesses go after TFG Raven123 May 9 #10
Perhaps it will just be for Stormy. Let ther two have it out and Stormy will show just how small he is. TheBlackAdder May 9 #23
Link, please? niyad May 9 #37
Uh, no. ZZenith May 10 #39
NOPE. TSF has a gag order due to ITS actions. Consequences. Why can people not get that. Traurigkeit May 9 #28
She is a brave woman. Demobrat May 9 #13
The judge will lift Trump's gag order gab13by13 May 9 #15
This has already been litigated dpibel May 9 #25
Stormy reporting for EYEWITNESS NEWS! TheBlackAdder May 9 #21
also, an exchange between Stormy and the defense attorney: mnmoderatedem May 9 #22
Trump wants to bash, lie about Stormy gab13by13 May 9 #24
TSF can not help its ingrained coward ways. He will be in a nice stone and steel cell soon due to being a coward. Traurigkeit May 9 #30
She wants him to take the bait :) Justice matters. May 9 #32
What did she say that's worthy of lifting the gag order? Deuxcents May 9 #29
Not the wisest move Maeve May 9 #33
I doubt eiyther gonads (or guts) have anything to do with it Warpy May 9 #34
Wow. A real kick in the tiny balls of thee Orange Turd. Martin68 May 9 #35
Everyone is so terrified of Trump's supporters Ligyron May 9 #36
Male body parts are not required for courage Skittles May 10 #38

Justice matters.

(6,983 posts)
27. Agreed, but that criminal defendant is confident his extreme court will bail him out...
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:33 PM
May 9

if "need" be.

So why risk any future "perjury" indictments... the two-tier justice crap will make sure he remains teflon.

rubbersole

(6,829 posts)
31. And the silver lining is he's destroying the gop.
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:40 PM
May 9

Keep delaying there, orange boy. News, front and center for 5 more months. 24/7. Hook your futures to this freak. What could go wrong? (Indiana, by 20 points Tuesday.)

NanaCat

(2,049 posts)
40. Usually not a good idea, even if you're innocent.
Fri May 10, 2024, 01:35 AM
May 10

You can be tripped up and in over your head before you know it.

Besides, it's never a good to give the government anything to use against you. Let the lawyers handle it.

Irish_Dem

(49,660 posts)
7. Trump asked the judge to let him talk in public about Stormy's testimony.
Thu May 9, 2024, 07:48 PM
May 9

So he isn't waiting until after the trial by bringing it up in court.

He's fair game for Stormy.
He is the one who should have kept his mouth shut until after the trial.

NanaCat

(2,049 posts)
41. I seriously doubt that
Fri May 10, 2024, 01:38 AM
May 10

She's not the one on trial. She's a free citizen with First Amendment rights and can say whatever she bloody well pleases about the case as long as it's true and not defamatory.

If he tried it, she could sue the government to kingdom come for trampling on her First Amendment rights--and she would win.

gab13by13

(21,815 posts)
3. Big mistake
Thu May 9, 2024, 07:42 PM
May 9

If Stormy is bashing Trump on social media.
The judge will have to lift Trump’s gag order.
Huge mistake.

Irish_Dem

(49,660 posts)
8. She is not a defendant with a gag order, not on trial.
Thu May 9, 2024, 07:50 PM
May 9

She has a right to speak out.

The judge cannot gag her.

Raven123

(5,045 posts)
12. No, ut depending on what she says, the judge can modify TFG's gag order
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:01 PM
May 9

He will not keep TFG quiet if witnesses go after him.

Irish_Dem

(49,660 posts)
14. Trump is the one who puts people in danger.
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:03 PM
May 9

The judge will be very foolish to lift his gag order.

Stormy has not threatened anyone.

If Trump wants the truth out there, he can damn well get on the witness stand under oath.

pnwmom

(109,043 posts)
26. I don't think she's crossed the line yet, but the judge could view a Trump-related post of hers
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:23 PM
May 9

as a reason to allow him to have a partial release from the gag order.

It's not worth taking the chance.

TomSlick

(11,208 posts)
44. This is like Cohen talking too much.
Fri May 10, 2024, 06:43 PM
May 10

The prosecutors have been ordered to tell Cohen that that the judge wants him to STFU outside the courtroom. It's hard for the judge to maintain the gag order if witnesses comment on social media.

Everyone - EVERYONE - needs to limit their comments to the courtroom until the trial is over.

Raven123

(5,045 posts)
10. The judge has already said rhe order may be modified if witnesses go after TFG
Thu May 9, 2024, 07:57 PM
May 9

He may lift the gag order if she is not careful. Heck just Give the judge a break, if nothing else

ZZenith

(4,146 posts)
39. Uh, no.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:38 AM
May 10

The judge overseeing Donald Trump’s criminal hush money trial in New York has shot down his latest attempt to lift a gag order after his legal team argued he should be able to respond to testimony from adult film star Stormy Daniels.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-denies-trump-attempt-lift-205256397.html

dpibel

(2,934 posts)
25. This has already been litigated
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:06 PM
May 9

Trump's team argued that his posts about Cohen were not violations of the gag order because Cohen was saying mean things.

The judge said something along the lines of "I don't recall the exception in the order because someone is saying mean things."

I'm no sure why you're so certain that the judge is somehow compelled to let Trump respond to anybody's statements. As someone else in this thread pointed out, he's the defendant. That means he's the one who is under control of the court.

If he's allowed off the leash to play tit-for-tat with Daniels, the purpose of the gag order is defeated. If he can call down the wrath of his followers on any witness, it will affect all other witnesses.

mnmoderatedem

(3,766 posts)
22. also, an exchange between Stormy and the defense attorney:
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:10 PM
May 9

attorney basically telling her she made the whole sexual escapade up.

"If I were making this up I would have made the story a lot better"

She knows how to bring it!

gab13by13

(21,815 posts)
24. Trump wants to bash, lie about Stormy
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:25 PM
May 9

And not be under oath, Stormy May be giving him that opportunity?

Traurigkeit

(777 posts)
30. TSF can not help its ingrained coward ways. He will be in a nice stone and steel cell soon due to being a coward.
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:37 PM
May 9

Deuxcents

(16,634 posts)
29. What did she say that's worthy of lifting the gag order?
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:36 PM
May 9

She didn’t mention his name..she could be referring to any man. TSF’s lawyers could have objected during her testimony but they didn’t. She put herself out there without fear and all the while being drilled to maybe slip up and perjure herself but she didn’t. She showed more fortitude than he could ever in his lifetime. He’s gonna have to wait to start grifting off this and he can’t stand it.

Maeve

(42,376 posts)
33. Not the wisest move
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:45 PM
May 9

Tsf's lawyers will scream UNFAIR!! since the judge warned that social taunting could mean a witness loses gag order protection.
Points, anyway, but poking the bear should wait til he's behind bars.

Warpy

(111,638 posts)
34. I doubt eiyther gonads (or guts) have anything to do with it
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:58 PM
May 9

I know if I was stuck being on his legal team, I would make it crystal clear that if he sat his butt in that witness box he would see my back exiting the courtroom door, your final bill will be in the mail.

Or refund, if they were smart enough to get paid up front, in which case any outstanding ratainer would be refunded.

Ligyron

(7,673 posts)
36. Everyone is so terrified of Trump's supporters
Thu May 9, 2024, 10:47 PM
May 9

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I know of no public figure on the Democratic side or anybody that could be considered a liberal or has spoken badly of their orange god or anybody the likes stormy Daniels or Michael Cohen f.i. that has been physically attacked by any of his supporters other than poor Mr Pelosi.

I think this fear of Trump’s bully bio’s and the actual danger posed by them is overblown. Besides, are we totally defenseless? We can’t be cowed or we let them win. Their attacks are mostly verbal and I wish there was a task force of some kind (hint Justice Dept) that would track these cowards down and make a serious example of a few. That might just put the damper on future threats that are mostly just noise that none of them will act on anyway.

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