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babylonsister

(171,100 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:50 PM Nov 2012

What More Does John McCain Want From Susan Rice?

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/susan-rice-john-mccain-meeting-112712

What More Does John McCain Want From Susan Rice?
By Charles P. Pierce
at 1:35PM


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Rice, and acting CIA director Michael Morell, took time out of their busy schedules to go up to Capitol Hill and soothe the wounded fee-fees of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and the inexplicable Kelly Ayotte, who has decided that the foreign-policy credentials she burnished keeping New Hampshire safe from General Burgoyne have made her a serious player, and who apparently has been adopted by Grumpypants and Huckleberry Closetcase because they can convince her that Susan Rice went to prom with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. So Rice and Morell give them the courtesy of a meeting that these three had no real right to demand, and this is what we get from Huckleberry when the meeting is over.

The concerns I have are greater today than they were before, and we're not even close to getting the basic answers," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), joined by McCain and Sen. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), told reporters after the closed-door meeting. "I would place a hold on anybody who wanted to be promoted for any job who had a role in the Benghazi situation."


This whole long con has passed now into the realm of pure McCarthyism.

"We are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get," said McCain, an Arizona Republican. "It is clear the information that [Rice] gave the American people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. It was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case."


No details. Nothing specific. Just John McCain, being troubled, as he has been since the country declined to make him its president. What happened with Rice and the talking-points, and why it happened, has been explained at length by everyone closely involved in the episode, including David Petraeus, whose word once was gospel, before the episode of The General, His Wife, The Other Woman, The Other General, The Other Other Woman and The Lovesick Shirtless FBI guy erupted.

What more can Rice do? She has explained herself. Petraeus has explained what happened and why. The entire apparatus of government seems satisfied with their explanation of the tragedy in Benghazi and has moved on. Rice can't help it if Fox News is a monomaniacal propaganda mill, or that McCain is little more than a steaming lump of frustrated ambition at this point. The Foreign Relations committee will have at her, if the president follows through and nominates her, which he almost has to do now. The "American people," on whose behalf McCain and Graham (and Ayotte, the permanent parenthetical in this lash-up) allegedly are acting, have accepted the explanation, where they are paying attention at all. This must baffle McCain, who believes that there is no country outside of a green room any more.

McCain and Graham — and the hapless Ayotte, who is clearly, and pathetically, looking past Rice all the way to the 2016 Iowa caucuses — have nothing. They want to beat up on Rice simply because they can't beat up on the president, although McCain made a run at that over the weekend. And they came out of the meeting and ran their mouths about what went on because they knew Rice wasn't going to go into details of that meeting in public. They are a pair of cowards, with a feckless rookie in train, and they are playing dangerous games with the country's security. They hereafter should be ignored and, if Graham goes through with his threat of putting a hold on Rice's nomination, Harry Reid should move his desk out onto Constitution Avenue, and no Democrat should cooperate with this clown ever again.

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What More Does John McCain Want From Susan Rice? (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
He's just a bitter old man , no rhyme or reason former-republican Nov 2012 #1
President Obama should lsewpershad Nov 2012 #2
Maybe they aren't fools and they know more than we do about her. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #5
Certainly can't dispute that. Maybe. cheapdate Nov 2012 #12
It's very easy to look up brush Nov 2012 #17
John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Kelly Ayotte are worse than Cha Nov 2012 #32
He doesn't want to have to vote for her as SOS. wisteria Nov 2012 #3
Yes, we understand, you want Kerry HERVEPA Nov 2012 #11
I doubt it. He is not that senile that he thinks his actions will prevent Mass Nov 2012 #18
I'm beginning to think he dislikes anyone who is not a white as he is, TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #4
This is not racist. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #6
How Do You Know That? n/t HangOnKids Nov 2012 #29
Maybe he'd be more impressed with her if she winked at him and babbled nonsensical word salad. tanyev Nov 2012 #7
Hah, hah! brush Nov 2012 #19
And he's still defending that pick as a good decision. tanyev Nov 2012 #25
Answer for the headline.... Another Jared Loughner Great Caesars Ghost Nov 2012 #8
Why did she agree to meet with these puffed up losers at all? abelenkpe Nov 2012 #9
He wants her madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #10
it's absurd. must be something personal. makes no sense at all. spanone Nov 2012 #13
This isn't about specifically wanting anything . . . markpkessinger Nov 2012 #14
6 weeks or so of free publicity for the anti-Obama view. That is all-- librechik Nov 2012 #15
Those three stooges (McCain=Moe, Graham=Larry, and Ayotte=Curly).... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #16
Huckleberry Closetcase (R) ! Berlum Nov 2012 #20
Don't move their desks, replace them with toilets, right there in the chamber..... bobalew Nov 2012 #21
I know what McCain wants. xfundy Nov 2012 #22
Maybe she could scare up some WMD in Iraq, that might please him or make him feel better 2on2u Nov 2012 #23
He wants that uppity woman to KNOW HER PLACE!! baldguy Nov 2012 #24
For her to turn into Condoleeza Rice and denounce President Obama, and tell everyone that catbyte Nov 2012 #26
It has absolutely nothing to with Susan Rice it's the ass kicking doc03 Nov 2012 #27
where was he when the other Rice mzteris Nov 2012 #28
Has anyone even asked that question? I'd like to know also. nt babylonsister Nov 2012 #30
I dunno. A blow job? trof Nov 2012 #31
He wants her to get off his lawn. Loge23 Nov 2012 #33

brush

(53,922 posts)
17. It's very easy to look up
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:30 PM
Nov 2012

She's a Rhodes scholar with master and doctorate degrees from Oxford. Her thesis at Oxford was recognized as the best of her class. John McCain was 894th out of 897 students in his West Point class. What they think they know is that they can damage the President through attacking Rice. McCain is just milking this for more news cycles, more Sunday talk show appearances and more headlines. It's not sustainable though as the CIA has already stated that they were responsible for information left out of the statement on Benghazi supplied to Rice (national security reasons). McGrumpy will drop this foolishness when something else comes along that he can jump on to satisfy his thirst for relevancy, even though, unknown to him, he was rendered permanently irrelevant four years ago when he lost to Barack Obama.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
32. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Kelly Ayotte are worse than
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:29 PM
Nov 2012

fools. They're deliberating lying and making up crap to "try" and drag down this Democratic Administration. There have been volumes written about them.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
18. I doubt it. He is not that senile that he thinks his actions will prevent
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

her nomination.

My best guess is that he wants her to be nominated so that the GOP can get their hearing on Benghazi (that they have been asking for a very long time) and grill her. This is the only rational reason to continue this charade, as it is clear Obama will name her.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
4. I'm beginning to think he dislikes anyone who is not a white as he is,
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

which doesn't leave many for him to like.

brush

(53,922 posts)
19. Hah, hah!
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

Great comment. He wanted that half-term babbler as VP but a Rhodes scholar with a masters and doctorate from Oxford is not good enough for him.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
9. Why did she agree to meet with these puffed up losers at all?
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nov 2012

Honestly, I would have told them to f off.

Maybe this is why I'm not in politics?


madamesilverspurs

(15,810 posts)
10. He wants her
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:59 PM
Nov 2012

to wave some non-existent magic wand to give him some credibility. Ain't gonna happen, he's worked too hard to throw it all away.

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spanone

(135,892 posts)
13. it's absurd. must be something personal. makes no sense at all.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:19 PM
Nov 2012

liebermann met with rice today and said she answered every question and was more than qualified.

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
14. This isn't about specifically wanting anything . . .
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:19 PM
Nov 2012

. . . He's just an embittered, angry old man who thinks he was denied something he wrongfully thought was his by right, and by someone he wrongfully thought was his inferior.

librechik

(30,677 posts)
15. 6 weeks or so of free publicity for the anti-Obama view. That is all--
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:24 PM
Nov 2012

with McCain himself the big bully on camera every day--Talk about relevance!

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
16. Those three stooges (McCain=Moe, Graham=Larry, and Ayotte=Curly)....
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:30 PM
Nov 2012

...think that if they continue to stir the pot they will convince the American public that Benghazi is impeachment-worthy.

Stooooopid!!

Rice did exactly what she was supposed to do based on the information she was given. The vast majority of Americans have moved on to waiting for the Holidays and a good resolution to the looming "fiscal cliff".

bobalew

(323 posts)
21. Don't move their desks, replace them with toilets, right there in the chamber.....
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:46 PM
Nov 2012

That way they spout all the BullsH*t they want to, and have a repository for it....

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
23. Maybe she could scare up some WMD in Iraq, that might please him or make him feel better
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:06 PM
Nov 2012

about himself.

catbyte

(34,473 posts)
26. For her to turn into Condoleeza Rice and denounce President Obama, and tell everyone that
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:23 PM
Nov 2012

McCain would have made a much better president than that evil Kenyan usurper that is currently inhabiting the Oval Office.

McCain is a small, mean-spirited, spiteful, bitter old man. He is both pathetic and despicable.

doc03

(35,387 posts)
27. It has absolutely nothing to with Susan Rice it's the ass kicking
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
Nov 2012

he got in 2008. The SOB was a thorn in "W"s side when he was pResident, he is just a sore loser.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
33. He wants her to get off his lawn.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:49 PM
Nov 2012

One of the most amusing phenomenons out of DC in the last few years is seeing how John McCain has positioned himself as the de facto voice of authority on all things defense related. Do we need any more evidence that we've become dumb as rocks as a country?
I sympathize with the old coot on his imprisonment in Nam, but sorry, that episode doesn't make him the great hero and expert on international affairs - far from it.
What does he want? Attention.

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