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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust wondering....if tRump passes away within the year.....
and the trials were delayed and incompleted....some.....Can the evidence of his crimes still come out to the public? If so...will we see the details?
Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)In that case the trial continues as to them and presumably evidence of the acts of the dearly departed will come out if they are relevant to the charges against the codefendants. The record of the incomplete trial would be mostly public.
FarPoint
(12,485 posts)Judge Loose-Cannon is successful so far to delay.... I sense he sold secrets.....So, what you are saying if I understand you is that the others charged like his valet fella ....we could get trail evidence of what whas stolen by tRump?
Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)We're not likely to find out what the classified documents were, though, since they're probably still classified.
I sense we may never know then...
Irish_Dem
(47,947 posts)What docs he stole, what he did with them.
Some of it is highly classified for good reason.
Our intel operations would be compromised.
Of course Trump did that already.
FarPoint
(12,485 posts)America has been seriously violated....I understand that we may not know all ....just so we fix this is the ultimate goal.
Irish_Dem
(47,947 posts)John Brennan, ex CIA director, said we have to assume Trump got everything.
All of the secrets have been compromised.
Brennan said he believes Trump still has documents hidden in his other residences.
I don't know how the CIA will fix this.
FarPoint
(12,485 posts)Just a thought...the Supreme Court knows how evil he is....but turn a blind eye....So much of our country needs fixed.
Joe Biden has been a Saint...in fixing or stabilizing America....
Irish_Dem
(47,947 posts)Tried to overturn our democracy, spearheaded the insurrection, tried to rig the election.
Stole classified docs. Is a rapist.
The Supreme Court isn't just turning a blind eye, they are actively assisting this traitor and criminal.
Yes it is evil.
The only saving grace has been Joe Biden.
If he had not entered the WH I don't know where this country would be right now.
Blue Owl
(50,578 posts)And please, O dark one, make it SOON
PortTack
(32,821 posts)Aristus
(66,527 posts)When Hitler blew his brains out, Admiral Dönitz made a feeble attempt to keep the Reich reiching. And the Nuremberg trials were still ahead. But it was essentially over the second that bullet went through that crazed skull.
For it to be all over
Please
Soon
FarPoint
(12,485 posts)Knowledge is power....we must seal up the cracks that tRump so easily had a free for all with as President. So, change can only come with knowledge and everyone on the same page...
tRump has many spawns now.....they will try to mimic his success...so...we have to acknowledge our weaknesses to make us strong....
my opinion.
Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)and I no longer care very much how it happens as long as it happens soon. In a just world he'd be convicted and sent to Supermax where he'd never be heard from again, but I'd settle for his quick demise, or even alien abduction if they'd have him. Just so he goes the fuck away and we don't have to see his ugly orange mug or hear his whiny voice ever again. I want to live out my remaining years without him in them.
Attilatheblond
(2,277 posts)and there seem to be plenty of GOP pols willing to shoulder Trump's yoke when he falls.
Aristus
(66,527 posts)But its why I mentioned Admiral Dönitz. There are few people outside of the study of WWII and Nazi Germany who have even heard of him.
Hitler didnt have anyone survive him who could have exerted the same venomous hold over the German people that he did.
So it is with Trump. No matter how much his would-be successors want to emulate him, they will never be as successful at appealing to garbage human beings as he. Look at that coked-out Don Jr. He probably couldnt organize a coalition around what to have for breakfast.
No. Im confident that Trumpism will die with its squalid namesake.
FarPoint
(12,485 posts)I do believe there will be some who try to be a tRumper...and fail....but also cause chaos...
Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)But there wasn't much left of Germany for him to be Führer of.
PortTack
(32,821 posts)Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)that was able to stir up the collective racist id of his cult members. Without their Führer they'll go back to being their former mean, dumb selves but powerless without a strong leader to focus on. I don't see them turning to the likes of howler monkeys MTG or Matt Gaetz, and we saw how quickly the MAGA crowd discovered DeSantis was basically a boring gollum made of cold oatmeal.
pandr32
(11,640 posts)While there are many who would pick up TSF's yoke, they would have to have the persona to be accepted by the cult. I don't even think Jr. could do it. Remember they were waiting for JFK Jr to come out of hiding and become TSF's running mate. That sure as hell can't happen.
Moscow Marge just doesn't seem to have the cult-panache enough to pick up the yoke. Neither does DeSantis or Abbott. The closest in creepiness/sleaze might be Gaetz. He has the weird looks, fake class, allegations of sexual crimes, and ability to lie all down, but something is missing. Would the International Mob, Putin, Dictators, and local mafia stuff him with cash and cred? Is he marketable?
Not likely.
TSF had years of self-promotion. It was the single thing he mastered well. Thankfully, when that beast goes down there aren't others anywhere close. But--some will certainly try.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)Perfect and Beautiful
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Buns_of_Fire
(17,213 posts)Wonder Why
(3,336 posts)Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)I'm so sick of hearing the mention of his name like he's a real human that matters on the news.
mopinko
(70,377 posts)imho, its more important for ppl to know he is a mad man w swiss cheese for brains than that he is a criminal.
and trust me, those records wd b devastating.
I want them too!.... Break down the false image to the MAGA minions and we can be validated...
k55f5r
(192 posts)syphilis
mad cow disease
calcified neurons in the brain from Adderall addiction
liver cirrhosis - diet coke addiction
the list goes on...
Fiendish Thingy
(15,708 posts)Plenty of evidence would come out in those trials.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,796 posts)There WILL be celebrations in the streets