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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Tuesday morning seminar on Where The New York Times Is Really Coming From re: the "fiscal cliff"
Last edited Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:31 AM - Edit history (1)
To wit: The headline of the article below - "Efforts to Curb Social Spending Face Resistance" - suggests that Democrats' victories in the '12 election have emboldened them to not bend or compromise on social programs like SS and Medicare. A good thing, right? A really, really good thing!
Apparently not. Dig the first paragraph: "President Obamas re-election and Democratic gains in Congress were supposed to make it easier for the party to strike a deal with Republicans to resolve the year-end fiscal crisis by providing new leverage. But they could also make it harder as empowered Democrats, including some elected on liberal platforms, resist significant changes in entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare."
So...winning makes it **more difficult** to get things done? Winning means Republicans (gasp) might not get everything they want? On "entitlement programs" that we've already paid for?
I see you, NY Times and Robert Pear. The Suck is strong with you today.
The story: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/us/politics/politics-in-play-over-safety-net-in-deficit-talks.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Important.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)You know, because I ALWAYS rely on the "non-partisan" Tax Foundation (REALLY?) as a reliable and objective source.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/fiscal-cliff-scare-talk-follows-shock-doctrine-script?paging=off
Thats it. Thats the crisis. All of the people who had been hysterical about the budget deficit crisis are now hysterical that taxes will go up and spending will go down. Go figure. Maybe just maybe I shouldnt even say it these serious people werent serious when they said they were worried about the deficit. You see, the hysteria now is because tax rates at the top will go up (cutting the deficit), and because a big part of those budget cuts (cutting the deficit) is military spending. Unfortunately the sequestration also cuts important things that help a lot of people and our economy. But these cuts do not take place all at once (a cliff), they will be phased in over time, and the Congress can act at any time to halt any of these cuts.
The Fiscal Cliff is not a cliff and the language itself is intended to scare people . The name itself is designed to create panic, evoking disaster imagery of people and the economy falling off a cliff. It is the latest manufactured crisis and we are all supposed to be terrified and demand immediate and extreme solutions.
Again, the very people screaming loudest about deficits are the people who passed tax cut after tax cut, and military spending increase after military spending increase, and started war after war. Then these same serious people terrify the public, telling them that budget deficits will lead to the destruction of the country and soon. After a decade of screaming 9/11, 9/11, noun verb 9/11, they screamed deficit, deficit, deficit. Now they scream, fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)spanone
(135,891 posts)had romney won by the same margin, the word 'mandate' would be tattooed on news anchors foreheads...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)gop response to the election:
"Okay ... The people have widely defeated our agenda. Here our our demands."
Now it appears the media's response to the election is:
"Okay ... The people have widely rejected the gop agenda. It is time for Democrats to give in to gop demands."
Yes ... The Suck is truly strong.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)But I expect some changes to SS and Medicare -
lower the retirement age to 55
lower Medicare eligibility age to 55
remove the cap on income for SS deductions
use a fixed percentage rate deduction for all income levels for SS deductions