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Yavin4

(35,446 posts) Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:26 PM Apr 17

A great nation does not have someone like Donald Trump with a great chance to be president.

Sorry. We're not a great nation. We're pretty far from being one. There's nothing admirable nor aspirational about Trump. His only claim to fame is the wealth that he inherited and squandered.

Sure, there are pockets of the nation that are terrific, but on the whole, we are terrible.

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A great nation does not have someone like Donald Trump with a great chance to be president. (Original Post) Yavin4 Apr 17 OP

NIXON, NIXON, NIXON, AND NIXON... Stuart G Apr 17 #1

Not. Even. Close. Yavin4 Apr 17 #5

Agree with the point, but I'm trying to think of another great nation that doesn't have some Silent Type Apr 17 #2

Trump is illiterate. Yavin4 Apr 17 #6

Recommend x 10000000000000 onecaliberal Apr 17 #3

And after all this, the election's still a toss up. Basic LA Apr 17 #4

Literally like 100K people or so across 7 states. Yavin4 Apr 17 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Pretty Fly Apr 17 #8

USA! USA! USA! CloudWatcher Apr 18 #9

Oh the authors of the constitution knew he'd be along sooner or later Warpy Apr 18 #10

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)

1. NIXON, NIXON, NIXON, AND NIXON...

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:29 PM

Apr 17

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)

5. Not. Even. Close.

Reply to Stuart G (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:46 PM

Apr 17

Nixon was indeed evil. In fact, you can trace the modern Republican party all the way back to his Southern Strategy. But, he was at least intelligent. He wasn't an international embarrassment.

Silent Type

(2,969 posts)

2. Agree with the point, but I'm trying to think of another great nation that doesn't have some

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:33 PM

Apr 17

cruddy candidates, including right wing hate mongers. Admittedly, trump is probably the worst ever.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)

6. Trump is illiterate.

Reply to Silent Type (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:47 PM

Apr 17

I thought that Bush was dumb, but Trump may be one of the dumbest alive.

onecaliberal

(32,902 posts)

3. Recommend x 10000000000000

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:40 PM

Apr 17

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)

4. And after all this, the election's still a toss up.

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:43 PM

Apr 17

A coin toss, at best. We'd better not kid ourselves. Something has happened to us.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)

7. Literally like 100K people or so across 7 states.

Reply to Basic LA (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 11:52 PM

Apr 17

That's what will decide this election. If people get stuck at work or get distracted or just forget to vote, that alone will decide this election. How crazy is that?

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Pretty Fly This message was self-deleted by its author.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)

9. USA! USA! USA!

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2024, 02:31 AM

Apr 18

A pet peeve of mine is how few "Americans" have passports and know anything at all about the rest of the world. We "should" be making it cheap & easy to get passports and encourage people to travel and see what other countries have done to solve their problems. It's amazing how backwards the US is in so many ways

Warpy

(111,358 posts)

10. Oh the authors of the constitution knew he'd be along sooner or later

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2024, 03:10 AM

Apr 18

and that's why the country could get rid of him in 4 years, something the monarchies of the time found unacceptably unstable.

The EC was to prevent frontier rabble from directly electing a smooth talking populist. They had no idea how easy that antidemocratic institution would be to game. They also didn't realize the people were smarter than a gamed EC and chose wisely, while the EC did not.

Still, we have tools to get rid of bad presidents when their terms are up

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