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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 11:40 AM Apr 14

Does anyone else think even if tfg gets convicted of 25 or more of the charges,

He'll escape being jailed? Especially from Democrats whimping out , and then giving him a deal, and a country club lifestyle for the rest of his life. That would really be upsetting,

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Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)
2. He's been charged with Class E felonies, which are the least severe felonies in NY.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 11:46 AM
Apr 14

He could go to prison, though.

If Trump were to be found guilty of all of the counts, he could theoretically be facing more than a decade in prison. The 34 felony counts are classified as Class E felonies in New York, the lowest level felony in the state.

The maximum penalty for each of those counts is four years; however New York caps sentencing for this type of felony at 20 years. It is within the judge’s discretion to decide whether those sentences would run concurrently or consecutively. Because the crimes involve nonviolent offenses and Trump does not have a criminal record, the judge could also consider jailing him for a period that is but a fraction of the maximum penalty.

Another possibility is that the judge could forego prison entirely and place him on probation with the possibility of incarceration looming over his head if he fails to abide by the conditions set by the judge. If the judge should decide to incarcerate post-conviction, Secret Service would become the elephant in the, well, cell. The unprecedented nature of incarcerating a former president would raise questions about how best to ensure equal treatment under the law and security for a former president.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/13/politics/questions-trump-trial-answered-what-matters/index.html#:~:text=The%2034%20felony%20counts%20are,of%20felony%20at%2020%20years.

dembotoz

(16,844 posts)
17. last local dem meeting i was at local organizer droned on about
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 01:14 PM
Apr 14

how we should be silent on facebook least we offend someone.
I live in a red area and the local gop is always willing to offend
maga hats shirts and signs are plentiful
but we don't want to offend
always amazed at when a dem stumbles across the party an universal response is how they thought they were the only dems in the county
Easy to see why

Voltaire2

(13,194 posts)
7. My understanding is that the charges against him
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 11:51 AM
Apr 14

don’t generally result in prison time.

I just want him convicted of at least one felony charge in this trial. Don’t care at all if he goes to prison. At least not for this case.

The Georgia case and the Florida and DC cases are all prison worthy.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
8. Sentancing wont come until after the election.....
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 11:52 AM
Apr 14

So he will be free until then either way.

But as a convicted felon, he couldn't vote in FL.

So there is that.

But he would likely get a sentence of 1-3 Years under current guidelines. That could be in a special setting, like a national guard base, or a closed hospital, or some other state facility repurposed for his special needs.

Or he could get home confinement in nys, with special rules.

It's up to da judge. The one he has been threatening.

Torchlight

(3,361 posts)
9. I think my position on his eventual legal cnosequences
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 11:56 AM
Apr 14

will be have more clarity after the trials begin and witnesses and evidence are brought in front of the jury.

Until then, it's really just guesswork on my part, and my guesses usually have only a 50/50 of being accidently correct.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
14. In this particular trial
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 12:11 PM
Apr 14

I see maybe a symbolic imposition of time but suspended and then monetary penalties. It will then go on appeals endlessly.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
15. He won't go to jail, but it has nothing to do with Democrats "wimping out".
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 12:32 PM
Apr 14

This is not a political prosecution by Democrats. It is a criminal prosecution for cause by career law enforcement.

The reason he will not go to jail is because our Justice System often fails when dealing with the rich and powerful.

I hope some reform-minded Democrats are taking notes of all the deficiencies being exposed in our Justice System with an eye to correcting them.

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)
16. Whether Trump goes to prison has nothing to do with "Democrats wimping out."
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 14

This is not a political prosecution, although Trump wants people to believe that (do you?). Assuming he is convicted (and that's not a sure thing in any criminal case, since the prosecution has the burden of proving the offense beyond a reasonable doubt), his sentence will depend on a lot of things, including the fact that these are Class E felonies, the least serious in NY, sentencing guidelines, the fact that he doesn't have a criminal history (though he should), some level of discretion on the part of the judge, recommendations by the prosecution, and the additional complication of the fact that he also has a Secret Service detail. Your suggestion that he'll be given a deal and a country club lifestyle is on account of "Democrats wimping out" is ignorant and false, not to mention insulting to Judge Merchan.

pandr32

(11,617 posts)
19. Prison would be nice, so would dead, but...
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 02:01 PM
Apr 14

I would feel relief if he is barred from holding ANY office from top to bottom. He can live in exile, but have no more access to resources such as briefings or Secret Service protection. He should also lose all his assets, save one to be exiled in.
His torture would be to see his power and influence whither away along with his status, wealth, and health.

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