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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre West Highland White terriers a testy breed?
Reason I ask is some relatives have one, Cujo (not dogs real name). Cujo is 10 years old.
He has snapped at a little boy twice, a little girl once, and a grown woman once. Enough to break the skin.
Your experience?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and it has been my experience that some small dogs will snap at children and some adults if they get nervous.
vi5
(13,305 posts)It was definitely on the high strung side of things but never bit or snapped at anyone during that time.. If I'm not mistaken they were bred to be hunting dogs.
As always and with all breeds though, it dependso on the training and the owner.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)But I read testy as tasty. I don't know about that either, but asking about how they taste would have made for a terrific old fashioned flame fest.
Yes. well, I'll leave now.
Tien1985
(920 posts)Even tried to read it again--still saw tasty. Oh well.
I dot think they are any snappier than other breeds. I don't think folks tend to baby small breeds and that creates a lot of poor behavior
quinnox
(20,600 posts)read it the same way, and only got it was testy the second time reading it.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and they are a smart breed.
We had three minature schnauzer's and while I was the favorite of all 3, even I got snapped at every once in a while, and they are very protective and territorial and jealous.
They do make good watch dogs in most cases though. But they are not vicious(it's not real bites, even though it does hurt a bit).
get the red out
(13,468 posts)It was a very sweet little dog, but obviously the owners were working with her to help her understand the behavior expected of her since she was in the class. The owner came with her little girl every week so the girl could also help train the dog, she appeared to be an excellent little pet and did great with the child.
I also know someone who has one and has never mentioned her nipping anyone.
Like many dogs, they probably behave about as well as the owners work to teach them to behave.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)yikes. And they are a lot bigger too.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)I'm not familiar with the breed, but older dogs sometimes have behavioral changes due to aging.
raccoon
(31,128 posts)Itchinjim
(3,085 posts)However they the worst nightmares of small critters like rabbits and squirrels. They are terriers so they are high spirited and may sometimes playfully nip a finger or two, but they are too small to do any real damage.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I bet they treat the dog like a child rather then a dog and have allowed the dog to be the boss.
People often do this with little dogs.
When people do it with large breeds often either the dog or a person ends up dead.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)And thought I could at least give a hypothetical if not humorous answer.
Yes! Tasty as hell with a garlic rub and some lemon!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I read it the same way, too for a second
I had to check to make sure I wasn't in cooking and baking.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)With peas and roasted potatoes, please"
Aerows
(39,961 posts)for the West Highland with mushrooms and wild rice? I was thinking of making it when my parents come to visit.
We are so bad, but that was funny as hell when I first read it, and then realized I wasn't the only one !
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Here he is;
When he was at his peak, he was 35 pounds of solid muscle and fun. I used to grab onr of his rear legs with both hands and say "I'm gonna cut this off and cook it up with 'shrooms and lemons"
He would look at me with a smile and an expression that said "If I was three feet taller and had opposable thumbs, you would be MY dinner. But I love you too much, so there you go!"
It is funny to think about, primarily because we love our dogs so terribly much in this country. I would no more eat a dog than I would eat a horse, but yea, I can give you a recipe in a heartbeat!
It MUST include Marjoram and Sage.
"If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die, I want to go where the dogs go."
- Will Rogers
Aerows
(39,961 posts)My favorite dog was the late, great Blue, a humongous Doberman Pinscher. He looked frightening, would defend me to his last breath, and had a heart of pure gold. If you haven't had a 100 pound dog try to sit in your lap, or grab the shower curtain and run through the house with it while you were trying to give his huge ass a bath, you haven't lived yet LOL.
He was a steel blue Doberman that was freakishly huge, and I absolutely adored him. I LOVED letting him get the leash between his teeth and he would tow me down the street on my rollerblades. He could run forever, and pulling me along was pretty much effortless for that huge guy.
meti57b
(3,584 posts)We are so bad !
meti57b
(3,584 posts)kydo
(2,679 posts)I thought the title read, "are west highland white terrorist a testy breed" you mean the dog and I was thinking repubican....
All dogs are awesome and great, its the owners that tend to cause the problem. no really if a dog has issue usually it is because of the owner. Most dog issues can be solved by simply walking your dog.
**edited cause I suck at spelling
For a second I read that as "tasty". I thought where the hell am I?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I say this based on my professional experience as a veterinarian, BTW.
Doesn't mean they are ALL equally problematic. But I did see a schnauzer bite an infant in the face one time, completely unprovoked, obviously (it wasn't serious but did leave a scar).
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)say the same thing any terrier is nippy.
westies being smaller do not do the level
damage as say a pit bull terrier
but any terrier will nip
and lord help you if you have hamsters
or any other small furry rodent pets.
now we had a border collie and she would
really nip little kids on the heels to try and
"herd" them she would also "bump" them into line
elfin
(6,262 posts)The first one did snap at a 7 year old. His sight was failing and she startled him by lunging into his face for a "kiss". She got a growl and a snap that might have led to stitches if just a bit closer.
Our second one - also lived past 13 and no problems at all.
Now on my third, now also 13. No problems, BUT I recognize he is now an older terrier that may be lacking in patience around a pestering kid. So I keep him away from little ones, who think he is like a stuffed animal to play with. That's because Westies are so damn cute and look and often act like a pup, even as seniors.
Westies are cheerful, smart, loving, playful and generally hilarious. However, they can be stubborn and independent like many terriers, especially past age 10. But so worth it.
The owners need to have its vision and general health checked. Dogs , especially terriers IMO, get grumpy when older and startled, or in discomfort.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)(Westies and Cairns are basically the same breed but different colors) They usually love kids. They are a fun and rambunctious little breed and need early training and (especially) socialization. Every dog is different even within a breed. Some of these little terriers are possessive of chew toy or high value treats.
My Henry was due to be put down by his original family at 11 months because he was aggressive towards the kids. I adopted him and he has been a model citizen ever since. The difference? I am an experienced dog owner who took the time to train and socialize Henry. For the past twelve tears he has been completely trustworthy, tolerant and loving with children of all ages.
Your relatives (like Henry's owners) may simply be "out dogged". At 10 years old they should be aware of their dog's temperament and not be taking chances with kids. If this is something new and the dog has never shown signs of aggression before, this little Westie should be going to the Vets for blood tests. It could be something as simple as Thyroid problems.
To sum it up, these little Terriers aren't Golden Retrievers but they generally like kids. The aggression he is showing may be due to possessive behavior (Terriers/territorial) or even health related. Ten years is a good time to have his senior bloods done anyway.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)smart and easily bored. They were bred specifically to kill vermin and the Westies are no exception. When I'm asked to recommend a dog, terriers are generally down the list for most people, although I had nothing but Terriers for many, many years. They have great personalities in abundance and are pretty high energy. They do not suffer fools gladly and can fairly easily be provoked to violence.
Like most dogs, the purpose for which they were bred isnt in great demand anymore. So, if you want a well mannered Terrier you must be prepared to spend a lot of time teaching them and have a lot of time to give them attention. Theyre pretty high maintenance.
Probably the most common thing I tell people about Terriers, gun dogs, and the herding breeds is that they need a job. If you don't give them one, they will find one on their own and you probably won't like their decision.
louis-t
(23,309 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)My excuse is that I've been sick, so ... lack of sleep?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)had to blink a couple of times before laughing our behinds off. As I said up thread, I thought, did I fall into the cooking and baking twilight zone?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Officers investigating the death of eight-day-old Harry Harper confirmed a post mortem examination had been completed.
Harry was pronounced dead after being taken to Telford's Princess Royal Hospital from a semi-detached house in Woodside Road, Ketley, Telford, on Tuesday morning.
Police have said that "initial indications" suggest the baby died as a result of being bitten by the family's pet Jack Russell, which has since been put down.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/baby-killed-by-familys-jack-russell-terrier-died-from-head-injury-say-police-8347102.html
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I really hate it that people are so quick to blame a breed for a lack of training and proper supervision of dogs particularly around children. This dog didn't "snap" at people either - it BIT them. "Snapping at" means the dog made biting motions near the person without actually touching them at all which is a warning tactic, and no dog should be allowed to do that either without a legitimate reason. Anytime a dog bites a person and breaks the skin it should be reported.
This dog long since needed to be kept away from people and taught that it can't bite anyone when if wants to, and sometimes the fastest way to wake up the owners that this biting dog is a problem is to report any bite that breaks the skin... the local government will enforce proper segregation of the dog from people and proper training so it doesn't continue to be permitted to go around biting whoever it wants to.
It's never the breed or the particular dog - it's ALWAYS the owner and their lack of training and supervision.
s-cubed
(1,385 posts)Any dog in pain can behave that way, or one that is losing sight or hearing. Especially since it seems recent behaviorisl change, there may be a medical problem behind it.
All dogs, regardless of size, or breed need training, and socializing with all kinds of people and with other dogs.
There are breed characteristics but also individual differences between dogs of the same breed. Socializing and training can reduce characteristics, but usually they remain to some extent.
frogmarch
(12,160 posts)bit my daughter's lower lip once when she got too close to his face while petting him. That was 30 years ago, when she was 10. She had several reconstructive surgeries on her lip and it ended up looking good, but she still has no feeling in it. Despite that, several years after the incident she placed first at state music contest with her flute solo.
Bobo the Westy was high strung and not cuddly, but he'd never bitten anyone before. He knew my daughter well, and she'd done nothing to provoke him. She stayed away from him from then on, and so did the rest of us.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)ANY dog, but MAYBE especially terriers, need to be socialized and trained properly. Our terriers have NEVER snapped at anyone and are (and were) quite gentle, tho a touch on the rambunctious side, but because we don't have small children around, we ALWAYS watch them carefully around our young granddaughter. Never had a problem, but kids are kids and ALL should be carefully watched when they are around dogs that they don't live with (which hopefully have been carefully socialized to be around them). ALMOST all problems between dogs and people can be explained by poor training, tho of course there are a few problematic critters. I remember that when i was a kid - maybe around nine - I was bitten by our cocker spaniel, but I ALSO remember that it was TOTALLY my fault, as i was teasing the dog. Ms Bigmack
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I did not train her to be that way. I also had a Rottweiler that loved all other animals and people.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Ba-dum-bum-psssh!
KG
(28,753 posts)mainer
(12,034 posts)Up tillmthen he was pretty sweet. Old age made him cranky. Maybe it's the aches of age.