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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 08:44 AM Apr 8

Judge: 1/6 was violent, not peaceful; opportunistic, not principled; coercive, not persuasive; & selfish, not patriotic"

Notes from Judge Royce Lamberth at Jan 6 sentencing last week:

"Nor was the January 6 riot an act of civil disobedience, because it was violent, not peaceful; opportunistic, not principled; coercive, not persuasive; and selfish, not patriotic




NOTES FOR SENTENCING
Today, the Court sentenced Taylor James Johnatakis. The Court ordered that Mr.
Johnatakis be committed to the custody of the Bureau of Prisons for a term of 87 months. The
following are the notes that the Court used when delivering portions of its oral sentencing.
***
A society in which everyone does what is right by his own lights, where adherence to the
law is optional, would be a society of vigilantism, lawlessness, and anarchy. As my late friend
Justice Antonin Scalia once wrote, “t is the proud boast of our democracy that we have ‘a
government of laws and not of men.’” Morrison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654, 697 (1988) (Scalia, J.,
dissenting). A person dissatisfied with the government or the law has various non-violent ways to
express his or her views. The First Amendment protects freedom of speech. It also enshrines “the
right of the people peaceably”—let me repeat, peaceably—“to assemble.” And history has shown
there is some role for the civil disobedience of Henry David Thoreau and Martin Luther King, Jr.,
in which a citizen engages in principled and peaceful—let me repeat, peaceful—disobedience of
the law in order to protest a perceived injustice. In that situation, the person acknowledges they
have broken the law and accepts the legal consequences that follow.

But what the jury found Mr. Johnatakis to have done on January 6 was neither First
Amendment-protected activity nor civil disobedience. As the Court has said before, “the First
Amendment does not give anyone the right to enter a restricted area or to engage in riotous activity
in the Capitol.” See United States v. Little (Little Notes for Resentencing), No. 1:21-cr-315 (RCL),
2024 WL 386718 (D.D.C. Jan. 25, 2024). It obviously does not give anyone the right to assault
the police. Nor was the January 6 riot an act of civil disobedience, because it was violent, not
peaceful; opportunistic, not principled; coercive, not persuasive; and selfish, not patriotic.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.227212/gov.uscourts.dcd.227212.272.0.pdf
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Judge: 1/6 was violent, not peaceful; opportunistic, not principled; coercive, not persuasive; & selfish, not patriotic" (Original Post) kpete Apr 8 OP
Selfish...the perfect word. TSExile Apr 8 #1
Reagan Appointee and FISA Judge bottomofthehill Apr 8 #2
We are in a world of revolution. jaxexpat Apr 8 #3
Great reference, World Turned Upside Down bottomofthehill Apr 8 #4
Da fuck? No Starbucks or Golden Arches? 3Hotdogs Apr 8 #6
So actually, and thankfully, no other chains. bottomofthehill Apr 8 #8
And for the Christians, it sullied markodochartaigh Apr 8 #5
This Hekate Apr 8 #7

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
3. We are in a world of revolution.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 09:44 AM
Apr 8

A world turned upside down. A Reagan appointed is lauded for promoting rationality alongside progressives promoting the same thing. Play it again like the red coated band played at Yorktown.

bottomofthehill

(8,346 posts)
4. Great reference, World Turned Upside Down
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 10:05 AM
Apr 8

I was just in Yorktown the weekend before Easter. There is a Ben and Jerry’s ice cream place on the banks of the York River …

3Hotdogs

(12,406 posts)
6. Da fuck? No Starbucks or Golden Arches?
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 10:24 AM
Apr 8

No Starbucks? Then I ain't going there. They can keep their fukkin tourist trap to themselves. How do they expect visitors to feel at home?

It's Disneyworld for me.

bottomofthehill

(8,346 posts)
8. So actually, and thankfully, no other chains.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:48 AM
Apr 8

But I was laughing over the Ben and Jerry’s. I did get a New York super fudge chunk or whatever it was called. Stood on the banks of the York river and imagined what Cornwallis must have thought when the French fleet cut off any hope of retreat by water.

markodochartaigh

(1,146 posts)
5. And for the Christians, it sullied
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 10:06 AM
Apr 8

one of the most holy days of the year, Epiphany. The Wise Men brought frankincense and myrrh. The insurrectionists brought shit and a noose.

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