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Drale

(7,932 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:02 PM Nov 2012

Teacher Writes ‘You Can’t Be A Democrat And Go To Heaven’ On White Board

KENTUCKY — A teacher in Laurel County at South Laurel High School wrote the following on her white board at a public school: “You can’t be a Democrat & go to Heaven.”

We all know that religious displays by public officials — such as teachers — aren’t legal. However, this one crosses the bounds of just angering atheists into angering nearly everyone. A statement such as that is blatantly offensive. The Sentinel-Echo reports:


A student in her classroom took a photo of the white board, turning it in to the Laurel County Board of Education and the Sentinel-Echo.

According to Superintendent Doug Bennett, the accused teacher, Kendra Baker, heard the statement from a student then proceeded to write it on her board. The statement was not a part of the curriculum or lesson plan and was a blatant opinion following the recent Presidential election.

“She wrote it on her own, and she wanted to write it on the board. She realized it was inappropriate,” Bennett said.


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/25/teacher-writes-you-cant-be-a-democrat-and-go-to-heaven-on-white-board/

See ya in Hell, Bitch!

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Teacher Writes ‘You Can’t Be A Democrat And Go To Heaven’ On White Board (Original Post) Drale Nov 2012 OP
I don't believe in hell. WI_DEM Nov 2012 #1
I do... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #8
reTeacher Writes ‘You Can’t Be A Democrat And Go To Heaven’ On White Board allan01 Nov 2012 #2
So like where the F is heaven, teacher? This is the 21st century, we're RKP5637 Nov 2012 #3
White boards are racist slackmaster Nov 2012 #4
There is no heaven. Shadowflash Nov 2012 #5
First, there are people on DU who are religious and believe in heaven Drale Nov 2012 #7
And don't "poo poo" us for not believing. Javaman Nov 2012 #9
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #12
I'm not poo pooing you for not believing Drale Nov 2012 #13
You're poo-pooing. Javaman Nov 2012 #19
I didn't call anybody ignorant or stupid Shadowflash Nov 2012 #21
There is no poo poo GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #24
But there are wet farts. Son of Gob Nov 2012 #32
you preach it brother! people shouldn't poo poo shit they don't understand! snooper2 Nov 2012 #11
It is wrong on many more levels than the religious angle. Skidmore Nov 2012 #6
"Heaven for the climate; Hell for the conversation." Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #10
Original article smaug Nov 2012 #14
JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED DearAbby Nov 2012 #15
She was quoting a student cali Nov 2012 #16
If she discussed why this phrase was wrong politically then I would agree Drale Nov 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author cynatnite Nov 2012 #17
I would write "You can be a Teacher and still be stupid" on the board beneath it. TeamPooka Nov 2012 #20
Was she teaching a lesson on compound verbs? Bucky Nov 2012 #22
Now, wait a minute! Don't make a snap judgment. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #23
How about "You can't be an Idiot and get a Teaching Job"? x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #25
What else did students say that she chose not to write on the board? This is EXPLOITATION patrice Nov 2012 #26
There's something off about this story toddaa Nov 2012 #27
That's what I'm thinking. Or it could be DevonRex Nov 2012 #30
Sick get the red out Nov 2012 #28
In my school system as a kid this teacher would have been quickly gone. There was no RKP5637 Nov 2012 #31
In their language, I reply, Matthew 7. n2doc Nov 2012 #29

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. So like where the F is heaven, teacher? This is the 21st century, we're
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

not sky watching for mythical beings and places.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
7. First, there are people on DU who are religious and believe in heaven
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:50 PM
Nov 2012

so don't instantly poo poo our idea's and beliefs because they don't correlate with your own and second your post proves what the article is talking about. Its not the fact she believes in heaven or that Democrats are evil, the reason there should be an uproar about this is that she is trying to force her views on children in a public school.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
13. I'm not poo pooing you for not believing
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nov 2012

but the blatant statement "There is no heaven" screams at me I don't believe therefore everyone who believes is stupid and ignorant. I keep my beliefs to myself, unless asked specifics about it and everyone else should to. The point of the article was not me saying ya or na to heaven but to point out that religion has no place in public schools. My statement "see you in hell, bitch" was meant to point out if Democrats all of the hell as this person believes than she definitely is going to hell and as a Democrat, I'll see her there.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
21. I didn't call anybody ignorant or stupid
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

I find it ironic that you find this insulting but have no problems calling someone a Bitch. Nice.

Would you say I was calling people stupid If I said there was no bigfoot or Loch Ness monster? Everybody is entitled to their own beliefs as long as the are not forced on us. (as is the case in the OP) However, being the open minded sort, if you have proof (or even reasonable evidence!) of said 'heaven', and can prove me wrong, I'll certainly take back my statement.

smaug

(230 posts)
14. Original article
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

emphasizes that this statement did not have any part in a class lesson - that makes it a violation (turns out, it was a direct violation of school district policy). Scary part is that she teaches civics...waahh!

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
15. JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:18 PM
Nov 2012

they have not only judged, they have passed sentence. What if GOD took the day off when it was time for their judgement, picked Martin Smith from New York to judge, then pass sentence on them?

They read the words but do not understand.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. She was quoting a student
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

Do we know for sure she wasn't using this appropriately? I can see how one could do that.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
18. If she discussed why this phrase was wrong politically then I would agree
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:26 PM
Nov 2012

but it does not sound like that was the case. If she had written it for discussion on political parties and partisanship or something along those lines than it would have been appropriate, and I'll admit the article doesn't give a ton of info, but it sounds as though she wrote it because she believed it.

Response to Drale (Original post)

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
22. Was she teaching a lesson on compound verbs?
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:40 PM
Nov 2012

Are they greasing up the camels these days? That needle ain't getting any bigger.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
23. Now, wait a minute! Don't make a snap judgment.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

First of all, if you look at the pic, the quote is at the very top of the board, a place most of us teachers (I'm home ill today--otherwise, I'd be teaching my ACT prep class right now) use if we're going to put anything underneath it. It sounds like the students were having a discussion, so she put a contentious statement a student made on the top of the board, indicating they were going to discuss it further.

In another article, the mother of the student who sent the picture to the superintendent and the media (not to the principal, mind you, and not to the teacher herself--why follow procedure if you can get on the news and create drama?) is now saying her daughter's been bullied and she's pulling her daughter out to homeschool her. Something tells me that this isn't the first drama incident from this daughter, and something tells me that she isn't going to be homeschooled for long.

We don't know why the girl forwarded the picture, either. We're all assuming that it's because the student disagreed with the statement and the teacher agreed with it, but given other clues, it could just as easily be the opposite. We haven't heard from the teacher, the principal, or other students in the class, just the daughter and the mom who's saying this is part of a pattern of bullying and abuse of her daughter (which may or may not be true, but she hasn't said anything publicly about what that bullying was and why her daughter's being bullied).

I'm going to cut the teacher some slack here. Class discussions often get contentious, and it's not always easy to control them.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
26. What else did students say that she chose not to write on the board? This is EXPLOITATION
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:18 PM
Nov 2012

of student(s) for the teacher's own RELIGIOUS and POLITICAL views.

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
27. There's something off about this story
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
Nov 2012
According to Superintendent Doug Bennett, the accused teacher, Kendra Baker, heard the statement from a student then proceeded to write it on her board. The statement was not a part of the curriculum or lesson plan and was a blatant opinion following the recent Presidential election.


Anyone else read this and wonder if Kendra Baker was really calling out a student who said it? The context of this story is missing. The superintendent almost sounds like he's covering for some incensed tea party parent, whose child was humiliated in class for saying dumb shit.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
30. That's what I'm thinking. Or it could be
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:42 PM
Nov 2012

just the opposite. No article has been written well enough to tell for sure.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
28. Sick
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:32 PM
Nov 2012

The thing I get from this is that Righties CANNOT stop themselves from spewing hatred at everyone else. This is because the RW Entertainment Complex has broken this country apart as never before. I can honestly say, as a middle-aged woman who grew up in the mountains of Kentucky, that people did NOT think like this when I was a kid. A teacher feeling the need to link religion and politics inseparably in the classroom like this was not something that anyone would have conceived of as happening.

Our country has de-evolved, this kind of hyper religio-political insanity is neither old time religion or old time politics. This has been generated through years of pounding by RW media at selected groups of people.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
31. In my school system as a kid this teacher would have been quickly gone. There was no
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:21 PM
Nov 2012

tolerance for antics like this, but then again, they really never occurred to any extent.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
29. In their language, I reply, Matthew 7.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:42 PM
Nov 2012

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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