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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJudge Merchan issued a gag order yesterday and the con violated it today
So how long before the judge enforces it ?
mercuryblues
(14,531 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)berksdem
(595 posts)Not holding my breath... rules don't apply to the Oranges Stain.
onenote
(42,703 posts)He referenced the judge and the judge's daughter. Neither are covered by the gag order.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)And that the order included court staff.
onenote
(42,703 posts)Judge's rarely if ever are covered by gag orders, because the purpose of the gag order is to prevent witnesses, staff etc, lawyers from being influenced/intimidated. It is assumed that judge's will not allow comments from a defendant cloud his or her judgment.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)When Trump was fined for violating it, the judge specifically based his decision on Trump referring to his law clerks, not to the references Trump made about the judge himself.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24087287-judge-engoron-written-order-on-trump-gag-order
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)That is my recollection of the timing.
Judges are never "staff". They are in charge. Courts have staff and the Judge is the embodiment of the Court. Lawyers address the Judge with "May it please the Court, could we ....". (As an aside, dogs have pals but cats have staff.)
It is common for Judges to not include themselves in such gag orders, probably because of a tradition of not making rulings that personally favour themselves. In the NY fraud case, Engoron issued a gag order and did not include himself. These are my observations as a non-lawyer.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,535 posts)with a 2-yr old. Longer he waits to shut clown 🤡 up, the worse clown will get. Judiciary? Not so much for important people.
republianmushroom
(13,594 posts)The name is trump, donald trump.