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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:13 AM Mar 27

Geraldo Rivera Saves Nastiest Barb For Rachel Maddow In Blasting NBC's McDaniel Firing

At one time, Geraldo Rivera was a very good and honest journalist. I noticed him one day in New York City on the Avenue of the Americas(6th) during the summer of 1973, interviewing people for an upcoming segment for Good Night America that ran on ABC on Friday nights. Over the years since the emergence of FOX News, he had hardened. Gone was the truth. Now, he is but a bitter man who bought into the BIG LIE. Perhaps Geraldo is unable to handle the truth that Rachel Maddow is more the Journalist he had aspired to be.

NewsNation correspondent Geraldo Rivera blasted NBC’s “cabal of aging” hosts for instigating the network’s firing of Ronna McDaniel, but he saved his most pointed remarks for Rachel Maddow of MSNBC.

After McDaniel, the former Republican National Committee chair, was dismissed on Tuesday, Rivera zeroed in on Maddow, whose nearly 30-minute on-air objection to the original hiring grabbed headlines. Maddow likened her employer’s move to hiring a “mobster to work at the DA’s office.”

More at....[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/geraldo-rivera-rachel-maddowmalignant-wokeism_n_6603e4cee4b06c56a1b69cef|
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Geraldo Rivera Saves Nastiest Barb For Rachel Maddow In Blasting NBC's McDaniel Firing (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Mar 27 OP
He's One To Talk About Aging Deep State Witch Mar 27 #1
But Rivera couldn't argue that Maddow was wrong. no_hypocrisy Mar 27 #2
His remark about her, specifically, wasn't an ad hominem NanaCat Mar 27 #25
Rivera was never a good journalist. That should have been obvious during the OJ trial JohnSJ Mar 27 #3
I mentioned at one time he was. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 27 #6
I thought he was somewhat informative limbicnuminousity Mar 27 #13
In my view he was always a grifter whose trademark was sensationalism and tabloid journalism. JohnSJ Mar 27 #19
He won a Peabody Award for his work on the Willowbrook story in 1972 BeyondGeography Mar 27 #24
Well, Bill O'Reilly lied about getting a Peabody award JohnSJ Mar 27 #31
Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember his work on Willowbrook well BeyondGeography Mar 27 #34
this needs to be the lead rampartc Mar 27 #32
He's . . . still alive. Wow. hatrack Mar 27 #4
And I thought that gurgling noise was my toilet...... lastlib Mar 27 #45
Would anyone spill the beans on her illegal Johonny Mar 27 #5
Has he found anything in SocialDemocrat61 Mar 27 #7
There is a line from the film TITANIC... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 27 #8
"Malignant wokeism" sop Mar 27 #9
Geraldo is just like hundreds of today's "journalists" maxrandb Mar 27 #10
This is not true NanaCat Mar 27 #28
Geraldo at 80 is older than almost anyone at MSNBC unc70 Mar 27 #11
Rachel is highly educated, a terrific author, and has a PhD. in Political Science from Oxford. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 27 #12
The HuffPost article is an interesting read. Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 27 #14
A has-been? More like a never-was. Ocelot II Mar 27 #22
That, too, is not true NanaCat Mar 27 #29
I guess I don't remember a time when he was a serious journalist Ocelot II Mar 27 #33
He's not in Rachel's league malaise Mar 27 #15
⬆️⬆️⬆️-THIS-⬆️⬆️⬆️ spanone Mar 27 #16
at his best he wasnt fit to shine her shoes. mopinko Mar 27 #17
That simple malaise Mar 27 #20
His fame went to his head NanaCat Mar 27 #30
like john kass who came after, got a lot of cred for takin about the mob. if he didnt have permission mopinko Mar 27 #47
Does he still wear that cheesy porn mustache? Hotler Mar 27 #18
Irrelevant tabloid journalist lees1975 Mar 27 #21
This last thing I saw about Geraldo was an online picture of his abs after a shower, Greybnk48 Mar 27 #23
oh shut up, nobody. bullimiami Mar 27 #26
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson Mar 27 #27
Geraldo was also once a close friend of John Lennon. ificandream Mar 27 #35
I have the highest respect for Rachel Maddow... The Unmitigated Gall Mar 27 #36
Oh, this is rich. Sky Jewels Mar 27 #37
WHO?? AZ8theist Mar 27 #38
He needs another one of these wolfie001 Mar 27 #39
He made a Faustian Bargain. PCIntern Mar 27 #40
All I Rebl2 Mar 27 #41
Does ANYONE care what Geraldo thinks? Picaro Mar 27 #42
Apparently enough people do who posted here about it MichMan Mar 27 #53
Geraldo Rivera was a very good and honest journalist. LOL NO ! stonecutter357 Mar 27 #43
Geraldo who? hadEnuf Mar 27 #44
You might remember him as Jerry Rivers. cloudbase Mar 27 #54
I know, I was just being sarcastic about his current irrelevance. hadEnuf Mar 27 #67
Geraldo Rivera is to journalism what Bill Marr is to comedy. Confusedly, forget-ably entertaining,........ jaxexpat Mar 27 #46
Gerardo regularly reminds us... dchill Mar 27 #48
And that folks, is what jealousy and envy look like. Bev54 Mar 27 #49
touche !!! nt et tu Mar 27 #50
Jerry Rivers is an "aging cabal" all by himself, which in a matter of looong practice.... Hekate Mar 27 #51
He has always been as overrated as Al Capone's vault. unblock Mar 27 #52
Kurt Vonnegut Darwins_Retriever Mar 27 #55
I predicted this yesterday (RW using it in their propaganda) maxsolomon Mar 27 #56
Let's discuss his argument... Caliman73 Mar 27 #57
I really don't care, do u. Emile Mar 27 #58
Pathetic MAGAt Has-been says what? MorbidButterflyTat Mar 27 #59
WTF happened to him: He's perfectly okay with a criminal-defendant-hitler2 wannabe Justice matters. Mar 27 #62
He Thought McDaniel Would Spill The Beans? ProfessorGAC Mar 27 #60
this guy lost all his journalistic relevance with his trash daytime schlock show MistakenLamb Mar 27 #61
I'm waiting for him to reveal ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 27 #63
Geraldo what a joke jcgoldie Mar 27 #64
NewsNation correspondent Geraldo Rivera blasted NBC's "cabal of aging" hosts patphil Mar 27 #65
"Cabal of aging hosts"??? Geraldo is 80 years old spanone Mar 27 #66
Talk about a lack of self awareness! senseandsensibility Mar 27 #68

Deep State Witch

(10,426 posts)
1. He's One To Talk About Aging
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:16 AM
Mar 27

Dude's been around since I was a kid, and I'm 59. He needs to crawl back into Al Capone's vault.

no_hypocrisy

(46,111 posts)
2. But Rivera couldn't argue that Maddow was wrong.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:16 AM
Mar 27

Resorted to the hackneyed ad hominin logical fallacy of avoiding the principles of her argument.

NanaCat

(1,114 posts)
25. His remark about her, specifically, wasn't an ad hominem
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:46 AM
Mar 27

He attacked her support of what he deems a political stance ('wokeism'), which, while repugnant, is not an ad hominem. It's attacking her claims, not her, really.

The ad hominem was 'cabal of aging hosts' because their age had nothing to do with their arguments.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
6. I mentioned at one time he was.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:23 AM
Mar 27

He was idealistic and more liberal minded than he is now and has become.

limbicnuminousity

(1,402 posts)
13. I thought he was somewhat informative
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:38 AM
Mar 27

prior to the Capone vault fiasco. Then again, I was in elementary school at that time.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
24. He won a Peabody Award for his work on the Willowbrook story in 1972
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:37 AM
Mar 27

It has been mostly downhill ever since.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
5. Would anyone spill the beans on her illegal
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:22 AM
Mar 27

Activity? Sure, who wouldnt do that. Right? Is he that stupid or is he just infected by RW lazy journalism where you get so use to never being questioned, you just spout out dumb lazy shit and never think anyone will call you on it?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
8. There is a line from the film TITANIC...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:29 AM
Mar 27

During the scene when the vault that was holding the Diamond called The Heart of The Ocean was opened. No Diamond.

"You know, boss, the same thing happened to Geraldo and his career NEVER recovered."

sop

(10,180 posts)
9. "Malignant wokeism"
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:30 AM
Mar 27

Thanks, Geraldo. DeSantis will start using that term now, maybe even pass a law banning it.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
10. Geraldo is just like hundreds of today's "journalists"
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:31 AM
Mar 27

He's a D-List actor who didn't have the talent to be a Hollywood Movie Star, so he took a gig playing the role of "newsman" on cable TV.

There's a shit-ton of folks whose dream is to be the new Tom Cruise, but they have to settle for interviewing hayseeds at the Dew Drop Inn in some Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika shithole.

NanaCat

(1,114 posts)
28. This is not true
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:01 AM
Mar 27

While Rivera apparently had a rough time getting settled on a career when he was young, acting wasn't one of the things he tried to 'use' to get attention. He eventually went to law school, and rose to local prominence as a lawyer and community activist.

After he'd appeared in some interviews on the telly, WABC in New York offered him a job as a reporter. They even arranged for a grant to send him to J-school. That paid off when he won a Peabody only two years into the job for his investigative report on abuses at the Willowbrook state mental hospital. The Peabody brought him to the attention of the national news desk at ABC, and he moved up the ranks from there--a national nightly news show, and a regular slot on the show 20/20.

As always, he has enough flaws to criticize without making up ones he doesn't.

unc70

(6,114 posts)
11. Geraldo at 80 is older than almost anyone at MSNBC
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:33 AM
Mar 27

For example among the older, Andrea Mitchell is 77, Lawrence O'Donnell 72. Rachel is only 50.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
12. Rachel is highly educated, a terrific author, and has a PhD. in Political Science from Oxford.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:36 AM
Mar 27

Did Geraldo ever mention that Rachel was also an A student at Stanford as well as a Rhodes Scholar? Of course not!

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,960 posts)
14. The HuffPost article is an interesting read.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:40 AM
Mar 27

Rivera, who has been a “has been” for years, accuses Maddow of “malignant wokeism”. Not only is Rivera a has been but he has become a poor, pitiful parrot that has been reduced to squawking “woke” over anything he disagrees with.

I’ve considered Rivera a joke ever since he got left with egg on his face after the Al Capone vault opening fiasco.

NanaCat

(1,114 posts)
29. That, too, is not true
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:04 AM
Mar 27

At one time, he was a good investigative reporter. You don't get a Peabody as a fluke. His Willowbrook series was terrific journalism, and he did several good stories on 20/20, before his fame went to his head.

Ocelot II

(115,693 posts)
33. I guess I don't remember a time when he was a serious journalist
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:13 AM
Mar 27

so I'll have to take your word for it. He certainly torpedoed his career with the Al Capone's safe story, then took it down another notch when the army kicked him out of Iraq for broadcasting troop movements.

mopinko

(70,104 posts)
17. at his best he wasnt fit to shine her shoes.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:47 AM
Mar 27

old enough to remember him from before the vault. he did some good work. work that was risky. but still was never in her league.
he was already sinking before the vault. that’s why he did it.

NanaCat

(1,114 posts)
30. His fame went to his head
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 27

At one time, he was a good reporter. It's not that he was better or worse than Maddow; it's that he occupied a different niche than she does. She's an anchor who does in-depth news analysis. He was more of the old school investigative reporter.

mopinko

(70,104 posts)
47. like john kass who came after, got a lot of cred for takin about the mob. if he didnt have permission
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:57 AM
Mar 27

he’s b dead. his reporting was more like free pr.

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
21. Irrelevant tabloid journalist
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:12 AM
Mar 27

with a predictable narrative.

McDaniel advocated stealing an election, and has no business in the media. She's a liar. I'm pretty sure she's engaged in criminal conduct when it comes to the effort to push fake electors. There's no interpretation of the constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech that permits that kind of subversive rhetoric. The fact that she is still walking around free is a travesty of justice, and evidence that our justice system is lacking in its ability to fairly enforce the law.

Geraldo is entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to ignore it.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
23. This last thing I saw about Geraldo was an online picture of his abs after a shower,
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:30 AM
Mar 27

standing in his bathroom, wrapped in a towel. Talk about an "aging host" who's desperate for attention.

I'm really confused as to why Geraldo Rivera, a person who trashed his "serious" career from 20 years ago by stupidly exposing the position of our troops in Iraq on television, has an opinion that's taken seriously today. He's a fucking buffoon.

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
27. Ha-ha!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:59 AM
Mar 27

... did not see where he said this... he left FOX News, I think. Geraldo should hang up the moustache. He peaked with his vulgar tabloid TV show. Rachel must make many more millions than he did - and she only has to di it 1x per week, sitting down, with no chairs thrown at her nose!

Picaro

(1,521 posts)
42. Does ANYONE care what Geraldo thinks?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:40 AM
Mar 27

Who cares what Geraldo Rivera thinks.

He ruined his persona with his relentless attsmpts to remain relevant.

He still shows signs of the remnants of a moral compass, but then he’ll revert back to his practiced amorality.

Geraldo criticizing Rachel Maddow? Oh that is rich.

jaxexpat

(6,829 posts)
46. Geraldo Rivera is to journalism what Bill Marr is to comedy. Confusedly, forget-ably entertaining,........
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:52 AM
Mar 27

and decidedly, a bit overwrought.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
51. Jerry Rivers is an "aging cabal" all by himself, which in a matter of looong practice....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:22 PM
Mar 27

He is jealous of Rachel, to boot.

“ I think that Rachel Maddow is guilty of malignant wokeism,” Rivera told NewsNation host Chris Cuomo. “God did not anoint her the arbiter of who was appropriate for her network to hire or what their point of view is.”
Rivera accused the network of “arrogance” and disrespecting the tens of millions who voted for Trump, including those who believe the election was stolen (a “thesis” that Rivera said he rejects.)
Rivera added that McDaniel “is the most intimate insider NBC could ever have hired. It was a brilliant idea. She would have or could have spilled the beans on the fake electors and the alternate slates and so forth and so on. Instead, you had this cabal of aging superstars at the network who insisted that this person was somehow inappropriate. Says who and according to whom?”.


Good grief.

Darwins_Retriever

(853 posts)
55. Kurt Vonnegut
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:44 PM
Mar 27

Hated Jerry Rivers with a passion. And that is good enough for me. Jerry was married to Kurt's daughter, cheated on her and dumped her.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
57. Let's discuss his argument...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:48 PM
Mar 27

Geraldo is upset because hosts at MSNBC had concerns about McDaniel's integrity as a reporter based on a pattern of behavior that she exhibited while the head of the RNC and her participation in spreading the LIES about the 2020 election that lead to the January 6th Insurrection and continue to disrupt the country today. He is upset that as a result of those concerns, the staff at MSNBC made their objections known and basically told their boss (MSNBC) that they could not and would not welcome this known liar and propagandist into the network.

That is my interpretation of Geraldo's objection. Of course he flowers it up with language and mental gymnastics about "censorship" and whatever. As if the network he works for doesn't censor. We all censor. There is no one who simply allows every single opinion to be shared publicly using a companies platform. I don't see Fox hosting a serious analysis of the benefits of say, Socialism as opposed to Capitalism on their network. They use the term as a boogeyman to scare their audience. That is censorship.

What Geraldo is arguing for is allowing a known and proven liar to be allowed a large platform and a lot of money IN THE HOPES that she MIGHT expose some of the problems within the Trump faction of the Conservative movement. That is, if you grant that he is arguing in good faith. That is the Steel Man argument. What in McDaniel's history would suggest that she would do that? I suppose you can argue that she wants revenge, but she hasn't shown any inclination toward criticizing Trump since her ouster from the RNC.

Giving McDaniel a spot on MSNBC would not "attract" Conservatives to the channel. That is stupid and naive at best and cynical and mendacious at worst. Giving McDaniel a position at MSNBC would give any legitimacy that the network has to a known liar and propagandist. It would introduce a viewpoint to the network, that is invalid and destructive.

Not all points of view are valid. We don't typically see outward supporters of Nazism and Holocaust denial promoted on any reputable networks. Why? I mean, it is a point of view, with an audience, right? Geraldo is engaging in a very typical right wing tactic. They use the Liberal idea of "the marketplace of ideas" not because they believe in that on their side, but because they know enough Liberals do believe it, that they can use it to "shame" Liberals into allowing toxic and invalid viewpoints into the mainstream. Sadly, if works too often.

MorbidButterflyTat

(1,812 posts)
59. Pathetic MAGAt Has-been says what?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:59 PM
Mar 27

"She would have or could have spilled the beans on the fake electors and the alternate slates and so forth and so on."

And now she can't? Why? She should "spill the beans" under oath.

“I think that Rachel Maddow is guilty of malignant wokeism,”

Let's see...use undefinable bullshit to make "nastiest barb," against most popular person at MSNBC and political media, then bask in the negative attention.

Cuomo said it would have been "such a beautiful opportunity."

If he really feels that way he should have her on his stupid worthless show.

Jeez, I used to really like him, once upon a time. WTF happened to him.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
62. WTF happened to him: He's perfectly okay with a criminal-defendant-hitler2 wannabe
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:12 PM
Mar 27

to run for POTUS as the leader or the Republican Qult of Personality.

A lifelong criminal who stole and shows off National-Security's most secret military documents to anyone who pays to enter his country club and who promises to destroy the Constitution of the United States to proclaim himself dictator on day one.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
60. He Thought McDaniel Would Spill The Beans?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:06 PM
Mar 27

What an idiotic notion! She was part of the effort, and he thinks she's going to rat on herself?
Her appearance on MTP suggested no such thing.
There is actually evidence that she would di the opposite.
He's desperately seeking relevance.

MistakenLamb

(522 posts)
61. this guy lost all his journalistic relevance with his trash daytime schlock show
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:07 PM
Mar 27

3rd rate Jerry Springer whose head is as empty as Capones vault

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
63. I'm waiting for him to reveal ...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:45 PM
Mar 27

... the contents of Rachel Maddow's safe.

We all know she has something in there. And, since he's a "real reporter" ...

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
64. Geraldo what a joke
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:53 PM
Mar 27

Evidently believes journalism means catering to the demonstrably false beliefs of your audience as opposed to reporting the truth.

patphil

(6,176 posts)
65. NewsNation correspondent Geraldo Rivera blasted NBC's "cabal of aging" hosts
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:07 PM
Mar 27

Said the 80 year old "news commentator" who is desperately seeking relevance.
That guy hasn't been "real" for decades.
Obviously case of jealously.

senseandsensibility

(17,037 posts)
68. Talk about a lack of self awareness!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:21 PM
Mar 27

But then his buddy cheato likes to call people fat, stupid, and liars. These freaks take their own worst qualities and project them onto others. Down deep, they know they are losers.

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