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Gawker got sued some years back for showing part of a sex tape by Hulk Hogan (recorded by Bubba the Love Sponge whose wife was also in it). Hogan brought this case in Florida and got a large judgement. Gawker wanted the judgement bond reduced so it could appeal. They were told flat out no. Gawker went bankrupt as a result. The case against Gawker was very thin, and was clearly part of a vendetta by Peter Theil who had been outed by them. Yet no court was willing to reduce the appellate bond and Gawker went under. Why is this case any different whatsoever?
TexasDem69
(1,865 posts)The Republican nominee for 2024, and at the very least has a 50/50 chance of winning. So that makes his case different. Im sure there are other examples of a bond being reduced significantly across the U.S. though I havent researched it.
Heres an interesting article from the ABA on appeal bonds, but doesnt go to Trump specifically. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/judicial/publications/appellate_issues/2019/summer/staying-judgment-with-appeal-bonds/
dsc
(52,172 posts)Not one source on this case has mentioned any such examples at all.
TexasDem69
(1,865 posts)Or maybe Im wrong and it has never happened before? Who knows, but the point stills stands that Trump is different than Gawker because of his status. The same would be true for President Obama or Bush.
Dave says
(4,636 posts)There are two justice systems in America. One is for those amongst us with wealth, power, and status; the other is for everyone else. For the latter, for example, some have died in Rikers Island waiting several years for trial.
Think. Again.
(8,723 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,040 posts)After 3 years, Kalief Browder gave up and hanged himself.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/06/09/no-bail-less-hope-the-death-of-kalief-browder
TexasDem69
(1,865 posts)Its because of the role he filled. Or maybe its just because the appellate court thought the judgment is wrong? The reason is all speculation and Im just speculating about why I think it happened. Im not surprised it was reduced and I really dont care if he has to pay $175 million or $400 million for the bond. The outrage here surprises me but will fade by tomorrow.
onenote
(42,825 posts)TexasDem69
(1,865 posts)Mentioning that many states were reforming their statutes and discussing a case where an appeal bond was cut from $12 billion to $6 billion in one instance.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a5768051-73e0-4d06-9591-e83fda700291
onenote
(42,825 posts)In the Gawker case, decided in Florida, the trial court that awarded the damages, rejected a request that the appeals bond be reduced or waived -- similar to the situation Trump faced when the trial court rejected he attempt to get the trial court to reduce the judgment and the appeals bond required.
Trump went to the court of appeals and ended up getting a reduction.
Gawker also went to the court of appeals. But a day later, and before the court of appeals has a chance to act, Gawker decided to declare bankruptcy. That bought Gawker some time, because it didn't have to put up the bond in order to pursue its appeal. Ultimately, the court of appeals decided it was without jurisdiction to act on the motion to reduce the appeals bond and around the same time, Gawker was sold to Univision, which shut it down. The appeal nonetheless continued without an appeals bond, but eventually Gawker settled for $31 million and dropped the appeal.
republianmushroom
(13,817 posts)and that is the reason.