The "hush money" case never received the attention it deserved...

[kentuck]

It was much more important than portrayed in the media.

Simply because, if it had not been paid, and it had become public information, Trump may never have been elected in 2016. It could have changed the course of history.

But, it was a cover-up.

After all the negative coverage about "genital grabbing", etc., it would not have been a favorable story to try and counter. It should not have been withheld from the public.

For those that say it would not have mattered - that people had already made up their minds - I am not so sure about that.

The idea that Trump and Cohen believed it was important enough to pay to keep it hushed, says a lot about its importance, in my opinion.

[Hugin]

1. I believe that has been by design.

However, all of TSF’s comments indicate that it’s foremost in his mind.

[CrispyQ]

2. I hope this is THE WORST DAY of his fucking life.

[eggplant]

8. Worst day SO FAR.

[stopdiggin]

3. I kind of fall in with the 'other' crowd

(while acknowledging the points you make)
In that I have never seen any hint of moral or ethical concern among the faithful surrounding Trump. The willful blindness to offense both major and minor is both stunning, and stunningly apparent for all to see. So - inclined to be among those that say it probably wouldn't have mattered at all. After all 4 million more Americans voted for the man in 2020 after 4 long years of embarrassment, mendacity, and thorough exposure.

Ethical lapses might matter to a handful - but it really kind of looks like the majority (including a stalwart branch of Christians and Evangelicals) have been able to completely set aside any question of character - or indeed even criminality.

[kentuck]

4. People are able to forget a lot in four years.

If it's not reported, it must not be important?

After four years, they were able to build up and solidify their propaganda base with FOX News and right-wing media, and to gather more followers for the cult.

But, if it had been reported at the time, especially by FOX News, it could have made a big difference in the 2016 election, in my opinion.

Whichever the case, it is a crime to pay someone "hush money" under such circumstances.

[stopdiggin]

5. it is a crime. but stacked up against a staggering list of others, and ..

I doubt it was one that would have held a lot of sway with the crowd that is intent (to the exclusion of pretty much anything else?) on "sticken' it to the libs!"

[kentuck]

6. Right! It can never be proven that he would have lost the election...

...or that he would have won it.

All they can prove is whether or not "hush money" was paid to keep it quiet.

That is the evidence of a crime.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Forget? That's bc tRump uses the Bannon strategy: "Flood the zone with shit". . . . . nt

[ChoppinBroccoli]

13. Plus, The Voting Machines Were Already Hacked

Nothing would have stopped him from winning Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Those machines were already programmed to make him win.

[stopdiggin]

14. utter nonsense

please don't start peddling the 'stolen election' gibberish here. We have quite enough of that drivel on the other side of the aisle.

[crud]

9. if the Stormy story came out

I think he would have lost the 2016 election. You can't prove me wrong.

If they counted all the votes in Florida in 2001, Gore would have won. You can't prove me wrong.

The election fraud he committed is just as consequential as the Bush V Gore decision.

[0rganism]

10. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he squirms and delays his way out of this too

Legal accountability doesn't seem to be in the cards when it comes to TSF.

I'm sure we'll all get a nice build-up for whatever happens, though.

[Orrex]

11. As I have said many times:

MAGA KKKultists could catch Trump in the act of violently sodomizing their own children, and they'd still mortgage their homes to help pay his legal bills.

Trump could be found guilty of rape 100 times over, and it would make absolutely no difference to his KKKult.

And it would make very little difference to Republican voters who nominally aren't part of the KKKult.

Pundits have been predicting for years that this or that ghastly truth will drive away his supporters, yet still they worship him.


Some trivial detail like paying hush money to a porn star wouldn't cause Trump voters even a moment of doubt. The media could have run with it 24/7, and if anything it would have won more "Independents" over to Trump.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

12. Isn't This EXACTLY What Sent John Edwards To Prison?

How can people gloss this over like it's not a big deal?