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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes liking centimeters better than inches make me unAmerican?
Lately, I have been doing some craft projects requiring lots and lots of measuring. I had my wooden ruler and tape ruler at hand. For some reason, which I don't understand, I began to use the centimeter sides of the rulers. I somehow felt it was more logical or simpler. Now I am hooked and wonder if it was something in the water that changed me over aka the red scare.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Why the rest of the world uses it.
kardonb
(777 posts)It IS more logical , and a lot easier ; everything is based on a decimal system . It is also very accurate .
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)kardonb
(777 posts)again , centigrade makes more sense : the freeze point is zero .not a nonsensical 32 degrees . Everything above zero is above freezing , everything below , freezing . SIMPLE !
TrueBlueinCO
(86 posts)Centigrade degrees don't have enough resolution to give good information about temperature changes.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)Firstly humans do not use temperatures that accurately. The only time most humans use temperature is in cooking and there 10 degrees either way is accurate enough. For medical purposes the measurement of body temperature is notoriously variable depending on where the thermometer is used, the time of day and the euthermic norm of the individual.
Secondly, ever heard of a d-e-c-i-m-a-l p-o-i-n-t? It allows any visual scale to be subdivided infinitely.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)-20 = Dangerously Cold (-4 Degrees F)
-10 = Very Cold (14 Degrees F)
0 = Cold (32 Degrees F)
10 = Cool (50 Degrees F)
20 = Comfortable (68 Degrees F)
30 = Hot (86 Degrees F)
40 = Dangerously Hot (104 Degrees F)
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)self-measurement.
72 inches tall sounds shorter than 183 cm.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ron Green
(9,823 posts)in English. I think everyone ought to use both systems, depending on what's needed.
Warpy
(111,352 posts)Some docs were really slow to change and a few of the real geezers still used the apothecary system of grains, minims, and so forth. Knowing conversions was essential.
The only stumbling block was temperature. Docs always wanted a translation from Celsius to Fahrenheit. Most of us kept cheat sheets for that one.
It's only a matter of time before pattern makers make the switch completely and then perhaps cookbooks will follow.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)Or British. Or any of the many other countries that use metric.
Welcome to my world. I can't imagine speeding in anything but kilometres per hour!
AnnaLee
(1,041 posts)It's ok to use the metric system but it is very unAmerican to like it.
yourout
(7,533 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Beringia
The Metric system IS more logical than the imperial one - but if it make you un-american to use the metric system instead of the imperial I'm not sure...
But then again, I have never really used the imperial system outside of school....
Diclotican
TrueBlueinCO
(86 posts)Feet/Inches is useful because 12 inches to a foot means that a foot can be broken into halves, quarters, and thirds and still use a whole unit of measurement. It has its logic, it's just different from metric.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Liking centipedes better than inchworms definitely would...
BadgerKid
(4,555 posts)Time is based on 60 because of its many divisibility factors in a pre-decimal world.
Converting to decimal time would seem to require a societal if not a worldwide effort.
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bluedigger
(17,087 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is that I can't amaze people with my mad fraction skills
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system
quinnox
(20,600 posts)much better than the metric. To me, it makes perfect sense. I guess having grown up with it, has led to a certain fondness. As another post said, there is a certain poetry to the imperial system, whereas the metric system always struck me as cold and mechanical. That is one eccentricity about the USA that I really like, how everyone else in the world uses metric, while we stubbornly refuse to change from our beloved imperial. I still remember as a kid they were talking about how we were all going to switch to the metric system, and it never happened.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)It's also the inter-relationship between the measurement systems. A litre of water weighs a kilogramme for example. Cooking is based on weight, rather than volume which makes so much more sense. Then there's the confusion between British gallons, cups, and tablespoons and US gallons, cups, and tablespoons which are all different.
We should have gone metric a long time ago, and probably would have, had that idiot Reagan not been elected. It's hurting our international competitiveness for one thing.
I'm currently in Europe and I'm having to convert recipes to metric. I found this website absolutely invaluable for all sorts of conversions.
Edweird
(8,570 posts)was cumbersome and a real pain. The imperial system has the resolution and real-world usefulness needed for construction.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)But fractional measure does make some at one time everyday things easier.
If you have a board 8 and 3/8" long and want to cut it in half you know that you'll cut at 4 and 3/16" without even having to think about it.
In metric you'd have to divide 21.27 cm by 2, I can do that in my head but not as fast as I can the fractional measure.
It's pretty much the same dividing into quarters, eighths and so on and that's what people used to do a lot of because absolute measure was more problematic, accurate rulers were an expensive hand made thing, people got by without.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)
Because you wouldn't be measuring your lumber in feet and inches. You'd most likely have a board either 255 or 256 centimeters in length. Cut in half, you'd get a board either 127.5 or 128 centimeters long.
I don't see the problem.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)My point was more that for ad hoc measurement dividing something in half repeatedly to get quarters, eighths and so forth is a lot easier and more natural than dividing something into tenths or hundredths. I'm talking about the history of why fractional measures came about in the first place, there are actually pretty good reasons for it but I'm not doing a great job of explaining it.
You can make your own ad hoc measuring scale by marking up a board in half, then divide the halves in half each and so on, all you need is a compass or a divider to do it geometrically, no absolute scale involved. I don't know of a way to accurately divide something into tenths geometrically and I'm not sure it exists.
For instance you have a container that holds a given amount of liquid, finding half of that liquid could be done with something as simple as a beam balance with an equal weight cup on either end, you can then go on and find half of each half and so on. To find one tenth of that liquid measure would require much more sophisticated tools than to find one eighth or even one sixteenth of that measure.
Decimal measure is only natural to us because we have ten digits, fingers, there's no particular reason that base ten is special.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)
it still doesn't matter. A board can be measured in inches or centimeters--half is half.
BTW - you're right about base ten. Other than the fact that we have ten numerals and ten fingers, the number ten isn't special--but the same could be said for the number 12. Even more so...
meow2u3
(24,773 posts)as calling someone a 98-pound weakling.
cherish44
(2,566 posts)Good Americans hate European shit!
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Seriously.
area51
(11,921 posts)Just kidding.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)OxQQme
(2,550 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)If you had to work on cars, you're not too happy with now two sets of tools.
Your house was built with feet.
My question for all the metric heads is: how many feet are in a centimeter? No one can tell me!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)always amazes me how confident you are on topics where you so thoroughly describe what you don't know about them.
Y'know, instead of arguing with you, I'm beginning to feel sorry for you.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)That and does finding soccer--sorry, football--boring also make me an Ugly American?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Metric is definitely more logical and easier to use. My problem has always been converting from one to the other. For instance I have recipes from that other country that measure ingredients in metric units and it's tricky getting the amounts right when you are using English system measuring instruments.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)I use metric almost exclusively for cycling stuff, though a few things (like nominal wheel size) remain Imperial, giving you an interesting mix.
Hence, you need 135mm hubs for your 29" wheels on your 18" mountain bike, on which you will run 160mm brake rotors, and 2.35" tires.
Funny thing: European mountain bikers happily use inches, as in the above example. Kind of cool, actually.