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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:07 PM Nov 2012

Can’t find a job? Move overseas.

Can’t find a job? Move overseas. Emily Matchar, WaPa 11/23/12

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We didn’t know we would be part of a wave of educated young Americans heading overseas in search of better employment opportunities. According to State Department estimates, 6.3 million Americans are studying or working abroad, the highest number ever recorded. What’s more, the percentage of Americans ages 25 to 34 who are planning to move overseas has quintupled in two years, from less than 1 percent to 5.1 percent. Among 18- to 24-year-olds, 40 percent are interested in moving abroad, up from 12 percent in 2007.

In the past, Americans often took foreign jobs for the adventure or because their career field demanded overseas work. Today, these young people are leaving because they can’t find jobs in the United States. They’re leaving because the jobs they do find often don’t offer benefits such as health insurance. They’re leaving because the gloomy atmosphere of the American economy makes it hard to break through with a new innovative idea or business model. “This is a huge movement,” says Bob Adams, president and chief executive of America Wave, an organization that studies overseas relocation.
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Jackson estimates that half of her graduate school classmates in the United States are underemployed or employed in jobs far different fromprofessions they trained for. Still, her family has a hard time understanding why she and her husband chose to live abroad. “They didn’t believe us when we said we can’t get a job” in the United States that’s competitive, she says. “Not only can we not get jobs in the U.S., but even if we did, we’d be taking a serious pay cut.”
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Sean Love, 27, traded a job as a medical research assistant in an “understaffed and underfunded” lab at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore for a similar job in Singapore. But the new position comes with better funding, happier co-workers, twice the number of vacation days, nearly free health care and a much higher quality of life.Love’s girlfriend, who had spent months fruitlessly searching for a nonprofit job in the Baltimore-Washington area, had two appealing job offers within two months of moving to Singapore. Other friends who moved to Asia had similar experiences. “Asia is without a doubt the new land of opportunity for those brave enough to buy a plane ticket,” Love says.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cant-find-a-job-move-overseas/2012/11/23/b7322ef4-3273-11e2-9cfa-e41bac906cc9_story_2.html

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Can’t find a job? Move overseas. (Original Post) ErikJ Nov 2012 OP
Welcome to Globalism Demeter Nov 2012 #1
Yeah a closed world is much more progressive than an open world. pampango Nov 2012 #8
You misunderstand Demeter Nov 2012 #9
Globalism is already in the first stages of "evolution". aletier_v Nov 2012 #15
I think I'd call it "De-evolution" Demeter Nov 2012 #17
Sounds exciting. Have to speak the language, I guess. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #2
further down ErikJ Nov 2012 #4
It's just like American young to abandon their aging mothers. HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #3
lol Little Star Nov 2012 #5
I have a college friend who did just that bluestateguy Nov 2012 #6
I've had the TV on NatGeo watching Locked Up Abroad and ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #7
Yeah, you don't know what you've got till it's gone Demeter Nov 2012 #10
One of my college friends went on a study program in Norway after graduation Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #14
Regressive Banana Republic Corporate America Policies RainDog Nov 2012 #11
There is a name for this nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12
You have to be a gambler to live in the US ErikJ Nov 2012 #16
Amen. This is No Country for Young Men(or Women). RagAss Nov 2012 #20
I have lived overseas on different ocassions. All I can say there is no place like home. southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #13
Or Bavaria tabasco Nov 2012 #19
Your so right. But in the end our families are back home. I would have no problem living southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #21
the global dustbowl. unfortunately, things are tough all over. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #18
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. Welcome to Globalism
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Nov 2012

Also known as putting all the eggs in one basket, then smashing the basket.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
9. You misunderstand
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:46 PM
Nov 2012

Small, decentralized, decoupled economies, not interlinked by massive corporate systems, can sustain small spasms that heal quickly, and the worker can travel short distances to find work if the spasm lasts too long, and return when conditions improve back home, if desired.

But now, with 147 closely coupled Corporations pulling all the strings, there is no independence, which we have seen already.

When one bank goes down (say, Lehmans), they all go down and so do all their clients, unless some government backstops the entire global financial system (like US).

Is this any way to run an economy? Are people safer, better employed, able to plan their futures? NO!

For more education on the subject, DU hosts an excellent Stock Market Watch daily thread, and a weekly Weekend Economists thread, bringing data, analysis, and humor to the subject. (Disclosure, I am a long-time participant in those group efforts, and started the Weekend effort).

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
15. Globalism is already in the first stages of "evolution".
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:54 PM
Nov 2012

It never made sense in its current (i.e. this century) form.

It's mostly a play on temporary differentials that are already playing out,
that's partly why we had the 2008 crash. It's currently morphing into
"regional globalism" which makes a little more sense but will still suffer
an additional failure in the near future, I think.

There's just no fricking reason to buy raw materials in South America,
ship it to Asia to processing, then back to Japan to more processing,
and then back over to the U.S. for assembly
and back to Europe for sales.

It's fricking insanity and I strongly suspect future historians will view it as such.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
17. I think I'd call it "De-evolution"
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

because the system is unsustainable, ineffective, and intent on killing us all.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. Sounds exciting. Have to speak the language, I guess.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:15 PM
Nov 2012

Singapore has several official languages; English is one of them, so that's fine. If you move to China, that official language is Chinese, of course. French is the official for France. And so on.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
4. further down
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012

..........Without knowing Cantonese, considered one of the world’s hardest languages, we may never feel like locals. But now more than ever, “local” is hard to define. Our friends here are from all over — the United States, Britain, India, Italy, South Africa, Greece. A few came for the adventure. But most others came for the jobs.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. It's just like American young to abandon their aging mothers.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

Self-interested little sn*** think they can get ahead by ditching their responsibilities...well just you wait and see how that works out in the WILL!!!!

Work your fingers to the bone....and what do you get... SHIT and SHINOLA! Little brats have no sense of decency...



bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
6. I have a college friend who did just that
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012

She is making more money than she ever did in any job she previously had here.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
14. One of my college friends went on a study program in Norway after graduation
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:53 PM
Nov 2012

and never came back. She kept postponing her return and has ended up spending her whole career there. I asked her what her parents thought about it, and she said that eventually they realized that she was enjoying a much better quality of life in Norway than she would have in the U.S.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
11. Regressive Banana Republic Corporate America Policies
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

have made other nations more attractive for talented young people.

America used to be the nation where those looking for opportunity would come to study and stay.

This is a reverse brain drain and it's an example of why a refusal to update America's social safety net and minimum wage, treating colleges as corporate entities rather than investments in America's young people and so on... has been so bad.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. There is a name for this
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nov 2012

The US used to be the beneficiary...hmmm brain drain. That's it. Welcome to banana republic status.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
16. You have to be a gambler to live in the US
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:17 PM
Nov 2012

A gamble that you wont get very sick or injured and die or lose everything. 1 million people a year in the US declare bankruptcy from medical bills. It would be reasonable to move overseas just for their universal health care alone.

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
20. Amen. This is No Country for Young Men(or Women).
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:35 AM
Nov 2012

It's a fucking frontier, fleeced by the rich until the courage comes to overthrow them.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
19. Or Bavaria
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:25 PM
Nov 2012

There are many places and they are all different.

Some are better than others and the USA is best in some ways and worst in other ways, for me.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
21. Your so right. But in the end our families are back home. I would have no problem living
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:08 AM
Nov 2012

in Germany or Italy or Spain for that matter. My husband and I both have european relatives but they aren't the immediate family. But I could see me living there. But there is no place like home during the holidays, period. I miss 4th of July when living in europe. Just little things like that.

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