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Upthevibe

(8,063 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 12:43 PM Mar 10

I have a question concerning the Presidency and The Constitution....

Can an individual who was elected President for two terms, then run (at a later time) as a Vice Presidential candidate? This would mean that if anything happened to the President they would then become President for a third term? Would this be forbidden by the 22nd Amendment?

A friend and I were having a somewhat spirited, hypothetical conversation about this yesterday.

Thanks for your feedback!

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I have a question concerning the Presidency and The Constitution.... (Original Post) Upthevibe Mar 10 OP
I am on the side they can be VP. former9thward Mar 10 #1
He would be ineligible to serve as president, therefore.... lastlib Mar 10 #2
Dreaming about Obama back in service?? Me, too... WarGamer Mar 10 #3
Hell I'd give up drinking and all forms of smoking to see this. Prairie_Seagull Mar 10 #5
Depends upon the makeup of SCOTUS and who the candidate is. Sneederbunk Mar 10 #4
Sneederbunk .... Upthevibe Mar 10 #6
The Supreme Court doesn't care about the US Constitution. Irish_Dem Mar 10 #7
There is debate on this, but I go with Laurence Tribe and the 12th Amendment and say no. hlthe2b Mar 10 #8
hlthe2b...... Upthevibe Mar 10 #9

former9thward

(32,049 posts)
1. I am on the side they can be VP.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 10

The 22nd says no person shall be elected to the presidency more than two times. If a person was elevated from VP to president, they would not be obtaining that office by election. I know there has been debate on the issue but I think the stronger side is that they can be VP.

lastlib

(23,263 posts)
2. He would be ineligible to serve as president, therefore....
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 01:04 PM
Mar 10

...could not hold the office of VP.

As to the specific mechanics of whether he could be listed on the ballot, who knows?

Upthevibe

(8,063 posts)
6. Sneederbunk ....
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 01:55 PM
Mar 10

That entered my mind too. Would the SCOTUS end up having the final say? Why would it depend on who the candidate is?

I think my main question is would be constitutional?

Irish_Dem

(47,196 posts)
7. The Supreme Court doesn't care about the US Constitution.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 02:14 PM
Mar 10

So the answer to your question is entirely up to a corrupt partisan SC.
They will do what benefits them the most.

hlthe2b

(102,327 posts)
8. There is debate on this, but I go with Laurence Tribe and the 12th Amendment and say no.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 02:16 PM
Mar 10

The Twelfth Amendment says, “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

The 22th Amendment made any person twice elected as president, or once elected and who has served more than two years of another’s term, ineligible to be president. So as long as the former president was eligible to be elected in their own right, they could serve as Vice President. It should thus follow that a twice-elected, twice-serving President should NOT be eligible. The loophole some seek to grab onto is to try to differentiate between "elected" again to President versus ASCENDING to the office from the Vice Presidency. In the end, I guess it would depend on the whims of the then SCOTUS make-up and ideology.

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