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Judge Kaplan rejects Habba's request to delay TFG's posting of bond in E. Jean Carroll case. (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 OP
Good Beachnutt Mar 7 #1
Oh-noesky!!!! bucolic_frolic Mar 7 #2
Pay up fake billionaire. we can do it Mar 7 #3
I thought he would, but it warms my heart to know he did. Ocelot II Mar 7 #4
Habba's motion was really weak LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #6
All of her work has been weak, if not downright incompetent. Ocelot II Mar 7 #13
She said she would rather be beautiful than smart? Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #22
Neither. rubbersole Mar 7 #25
She said it. And I agree with you Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #29
She could hang out with boobert... rubbersole Mar 7 #33
Perfect! Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #42
That gets a rec NBachers Mar 7 #43
My mom had a favorite joke about two women and a - uh - plain-looking little girl. calimary Mar 7 #49
nice story! My daughter, after being bullied on the playground at age 3 (incident reports will verify) Evolve Dammit Mar 8 #67
'Word Salad': Legal expert says Alina Habba is speaking 'gibberish' while defending Trump LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #60
He'll still try to find ways to weasel out of it. calimary Mar 7 #51
Dilatory Donald is being held accountable. Nt spooky3 Mar 7 #5
Thank You Judge Kaplan. spanone Mar 7 #7
"Mr. Trump's current situation is a result of his own dilatory actions," he writes. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #8
Orban is bringing Traildogbob Mar 7 #9
"We have all the money we need from Russia". (Eric) Via Hungary... Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #23
Yeah, I think so. EndlessWire Mar 7 #39
Oh but it does Traildogbob Mar 7 #66
Weasel TSF. Cha Mar 7 #10
Some billionaire. The stress has got to be getting to the orange turd. brush Mar 7 #11
I think I love Judge Kaplan. TSExile Mar 7 #12
Are you allowed to laugh out loud at a court order? Irish_Dem Mar 7 #14
DENIED! Blues Heron Mar 7 #15
No soup for you! JoseBalow Mar 7 #20
After decades of not paying his bills, of stiffing small companies and saying "so sue me," Warpy Mar 7 #16
He's a psychopath/sociopath so his pure response is going to forever be disbelief. littlemissmartypants Mar 7 #47
He's a malignant narcissist Warpy Mar 7 #64
pay up fat boy Ray Bruns Mar 7 #17
That fat motherfucker can't buy his Whoppers and pay his trick tab and this settlement all at the same time. SoFlaBro Mar 7 #57
What is this book by inner city press? SleeplessinSoCal Mar 7 #18
I suppose "you're fired" doesn't fit here eh?? a kennedy Mar 7 #19
Judge Kaplan is what is right with our justice system. Applying the law to criminals of the law. ffr Mar 7 #21
Pay up rapist traitor! Moose. Rocco. Help him find his wallet. Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #24
Oh lawd, can gawd save him? onecaliberal Mar 7 #26
Me ater reading this. ShazzieB Mar 7 #27
Ring, ring... rubbersole Mar 7 #28
That's a brutal put down! PJMcK Mar 7 #30
It's a thing of beauty to see Kaplan moniss Mar 7 #31
Let's see if I understand this: Permanut Mar 7 #32
Try saying court, possible penalty kinda don't fit in your schedule underpants Mar 7 #35
,,, Permanut Mar 7 #63
... Permanut Mar 7 #65
The one who suffered irreparable harm is the woman you raped and defamed. Demobrat Mar 7 #34
What if he doesn't pay? live love laugh Mar 7 #36
My understanding is that it is required for him to appeal the decision whopis01 Mar 7 #55
Wonderful! live love laugh Mar 7 #62
traitortrump waits 'til the last minute because he expected special treatment again. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 7 #37
Enforce the rules malaise Mar 7 #38
I don't need words. Dem2theMax Mar 7 #40
Liquidate his jet plane first so he can't fly off to his next Nazi rallies and campaign coast to coast. magicarpet Mar 7 #41
Be best, Donald democrank Mar 7 #44
He probably doesn't have the liquid assets necessary to post the bond so he has to sell something bcool Mar 7 #45
Or maybe... littlemissmartypants Mar 7 #50
Beautiful orangecrush Mar 7 #46
Remember this jacket... asiliveandbreathe Mar 7 #48
Welp sheshe2 Mar 7 #52
It's time like these that he needs "J.D. Wentworth bc he needs cash NOW" Submariner Mar 7 #53
I like the "this time" part. LOL! mobeau69 Mar 7 #54
This ruling made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #56
He might need a double diaper change nowforever Mar 7 #58
I said it before that Trump doesn't have the money he claims he does. His cash supply is only what he can gull out of Ford_Prefect Mar 7 #59
Beware the Flying Heinz! NanaCat Mar 7 #61

rubbersole

(6,737 posts)
33. She could hang out with boobert...
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:24 PM
Mar 7

...same low class vibe. They could get matching tramp stamp tattoos - "Born Too Loose".

calimary

(81,527 posts)
49. My mom had a favorite joke about two women and a - uh - plain-looking little girl.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:26 PM
Mar 7

The two women notice the little girl. One of them says to the other: “she’s not very p-r-e-t-t-y.” The little girl heard her and pipes up with “no, but I AM very s-m-a-r-t.”

My mom told me that when I was a little girl. I still remember thinking “why are you telling me that joke?”

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
67. nice story! My daughter, after being bullied on the playground at age 3 (incident reports will verify)
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 08:00 PM
Mar 8

was being bullied again as I picked her up and witnessed it. She was much smaller but grabbed him by one hand and flung him to the ground; hard. I felt so relieved and proud! That's my girl. She's going to be alright! No more issues after that that I can recall.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,667 posts)
60. 'Word Salad': Legal expert says Alina Habba is speaking 'gibberish' while defending Trump
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 09:11 PM
Mar 7

This is a very accurate critique of Habba's attempts at legal work. Parking lot/garage attorneys was not a specialty when I was in law school.



https://www.rawstory.com/alina-habba-word-salad/

Alina Habba's latest talking points were purportedly pure mishmash.

Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner diced up Trump's attorney for what he called a "bunch of word salad" for being unable to express a cogent point while pushing back against the narrative that her client, former President Donald Trump, is cash-strapped and boxed in after a New York City judge ruled against him in the damning civil fraud case that will force him to pay $455 million in penalties.

"The Attorney General [Letitia James] case is on appeal, we're waiting on that decision," she said during an interview with Eric Bolling on Newsmax. "We had a good hearing last week on that case."

"Obviously, the judge in the appellate division saw that there were some issues in the order and rectified them."

Trump's lawyers have filed appeals accusing Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron of having "committed errors of law and/or fact" and claiming he abused his discretion or "acted in excess" of his jurisdiction.....

Kirschner knocked Habba for her suggestion that Trump and his team have seemingly been muzzled all this time until now.

"I especially like when she says well 'Our story is finally going to come out!' They have been putting their story out in the media, they have been putting their story out in trials that lasted weeks if not months — but now on appeal their story is finally going to come out it's a bunch of word salad it's a bunch of gibberish."

"They do not have strong issues on appeal based on my assessment what I saw regarding the reporting of the evidence that was introduced that ended up in the massive money judgment against Donald Trump."




calimary

(81,527 posts)
51. He'll still try to find ways to weasel out of it.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:30 PM
Mar 7

Maybe he’ll ultimately wind up in Saudi Arabia, developing hotels for wealthy sheiks. Whatever allows him to relocate as much of their money as possible into his pockets.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,667 posts)
8. "Mr. Trump's current situation is a result of his own dilatory actions," he writes.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:16 PM
Mar 7

Federal judges do not put up with BS motions



Traildogbob

(8,834 posts)
9. Orban is bringing
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:16 PM
Mar 7

AmerKKKan cash from Poopie Poo and fellow DICKtators to Mardi Lardo tomorrow. Paid in full by 5:00 PM Friday. The dox Boxes will be emptied.

brush

(53,925 posts)
11. Some billionaire. The stress has got to be getting to the orange turd.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:18 PM
Mar 7

These debts coming due, on top of trying to duck court appearances, and trying to campaign, Melanoma refusing to appear at his campaign events, Ivanka distancing herself from him altogether...what's an insurrectionist supposed to do?

I say go ahead and storke, it's ok.

Irish_Dem

(47,518 posts)
14. Are you allowed to laugh out loud at a court order?
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:25 PM
Mar 7

What a smack down.

Trump says he will suffer irreparable harm if he has to pay the court ordered fine.

The judge says in legalese, it's your own damn fault you gd idiot.
And that is the whole point, to teach you a gd lesson.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
16. After decades of not paying his bills, of stiffing small companies and saying "so sue me,"
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:39 PM
Mar 7

the bastard is finally being told he has to cough up and on time.

I hope he really hates all this.

littlemissmartypants

(22,839 posts)
47. He's a psychopath/sociopath so his pure response is going to forever be disbelief.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:22 PM
Mar 7

As that's the distorted belief of a true psychopath/sociopath because they believe deeply and without reservations that the laws don't apply to them. They're not joking or lying or doing anything wrong. Their brains are wired differently to the extreme.

Their minds are so deeply twisted and their beliefs so perverted, in every way, that you will never convince them otherwise.

They are hard wired in their distorted beliefs and there is absolutely no "rehabbing" them, none. They are truly dangerous.

I've purposely used the two distinct terms here but the mental disorder is designated as Antisocial Personality Disorder.


ASPD Symptoms
A person with ASPD begins to show symptoms of the condition as a child or a teenager, ignoring rules and engaging in reckless behavior. Some researchers find a progression among those diagnosed with conduct disorder in their youth (aggression toward animals, running away from home) and a later ASPD diagnosis.

A person with ASPD may have the following symptoms:

●Impulsive behavior and risk taking
●Lack of concern for others
●Not being responsible or refusing to take responsibility
●Manipulative behavior
●Arrogance and grandiosity
●Ability to be charming and persuasive
●Lying, stealing, fighting and other law breaking
●Not showing any remorse (especially in those with psychopathic traits)
●Anger and aggression

Antisocial Personality Disorder and Fear

People diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) often fail to experience the emotion of fear themselves or recognize it in others. Studies suggest this may be due to how their brains process fear.5 This finding is heightened in people with ASPD also diagnosed with psychopathic personality disorder (PPD). They have limited responses to fear, and brain imaging tests that show fear deficits.
More...
https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-antisocial-personality-disorder-aspd-5207370#toc-aspd-symptoms


He lives outside of a moral and accountable universe. And the Republicans want to see him in the seat of what some say is the position of the most powerful man in the world. Let that sink in.

❤️pants
GOTV!

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
64. He's a malignant narcissist
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 10:19 PM
Mar 7

which is an intersection of narcissistic personality disorder with psychopathy. Nothing will ever be his fault, it's a witch hunt and he has so many enemies. He must be the center of everyone's universe. He only manages to exist as a reflection in other people's eyes. If you are not utterly loyal to him, you are shifted to his enemies list and that's when the psychopathy kicks in.

If you ever meet one in real life, RUN AWAY.

What I want for TFG is to have him spend the rest of his life planning how to destroy all his enemies (and we're all on the list, BTW) but being too broke to do anything about it. Since that's not going to happen, prison or self imposed exile will have to do.

SoFlaBro

(1,985 posts)
57. That fat motherfucker can't buy his Whoppers and pay his trick tab and this settlement all at the same time.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 09:01 PM
Mar 7

PJMcK

(22,056 posts)
30. That's a brutal put down!
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:21 PM
Mar 7

Thank you, Judge Kaplan.

Hey, Alina! Didn’t you say Trump would post the bond? Liar.

Hey, Trump! It’s all collapsing. I’m enjoying the show! It’s great to see you squirm and sweat.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
31. It's a thing of beauty to see Kaplan
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:22 PM
Mar 7

reject these pleadings from Habba. He always notes how she makes claims and assertions about facts or harms yet includes nothing in her pleadings that shows any details about what those facts are or the harms would be. Instead of "getting the polite hint" she doesn't modify her style of constructing pleadings in any way and just keeps sending up thin air. Hey Habba Babba the judge has been trying to tell you all along to put some meat on the bones and he might have something to consider. Take a hint.

So we have the following scene from a less than B movie:

The scene opens outside a local branch library in a small town. A car pulls up and a frantic woman gets out and runs into the branch.
She approaches the help desk with sweat on her brow and a vacant but panicked look in her eyes.

Librarian: May I help you?

Frantic Woman: Yes, Oh My God I need your help!! I have a legal appellate case and I need some books about court procedure.

Librarian: So you're a lawyer then?

Frantic Woman: Some say. Please hurry!!

Librarian: Well we have this 6 volume reference series that you could start with.

Frantic Woman: No, no I only have 30 days don't you have something more basic?

Librarian: Well we do have this 30 page paperback titled "Legal and Appellate Procedures for Dummies".

Frantic Woman: Fine!! Fine!! I'll take it!!

Permanut

(5,661 posts)
32. Let's see if I understand this:
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:23 PM
Mar 7

Next time I get a speeding ticket, I can petition the court for a cancellation or delay of the fine, on the grounds that it will cause irreparable harm to my bank account.

Great strategy if it works.

underpants

(182,950 posts)
35. Try saying court, possible penalty kinda don't fit in your schedule
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:33 PM
Mar 7

Look I’d live to be at my trial for robbing the gas station but, you know, I am supposed to be at work Monday thru Friday.

He’s trying that too. The criminal charges get in the way of his campaign plans.

Demobrat

(9,004 posts)
34. The one who suffered irreparable harm is the woman you raped and defamed.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:27 PM
Mar 7

Pay up and be glad you’re not in Rikers Island for sexual assault you worthless waste of skin.

whopis01

(3,525 posts)
55. My understanding is that it is required for him to appeal the decision
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:55 PM
Mar 7

If he doesn’t post it, he can’t appeal and Carroll can start collecting immediately.

If he doesn’t pay her at that time she can go to the court to enforce it. Then they start putting liens on him and seizing funds and properties.

bcool

(219 posts)
45. He probably doesn't have the liquid assets necessary to post the bond so he has to sell something
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:07 PM
Mar 7

My guess is he'd need to sell something to get the funds, and he's saying if he sells something now and later gets off the hook via appeal he would have unnecessarily lost that particular asset.

It's like if you or I had this huge judgment against us and all we had was our house. If we had to sell it to put the money up during the appeal process and eventually the fine was overturned, we'd now be without our house.

Or, he's just trying to weasel out of paying

Ford_Prefect

(7,925 posts)
59. I said it before that Trump doesn't have the money he claims he does. His cash supply is only what he can gull out of
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 09:08 PM
Mar 7

The MAGA and GOP. His "properties" are all mortgaged to the hilt. Many of the buildings he speaks of as his are in name only. He pays for the rights to lease them to others but does not own them outright, thus his assets are literally paper thin.

His niece has said any number of times that DJT is a self propelling myth which depends upon the false impression that he has far more genuine wealth than he does. His father operated much the same way.

When the truth comes out about how little real money he has, and how compromised his property holdings are, DJT will collapse in a furious frenzied final tweet, or worse, lose it in public.

...And then he will still have to face the remaining investigations and likely incarcerations.

IMO Trump is effectively a dead man walking. He won't last long enough to complete the campaign, let alone contest the election.

This is the plain truth.

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