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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:43 AM Nov 2012

It's possible for Christie to win the nomination

I wouldn't say that it's likely, but I can picture the the scenario.

A lot of them (Republicans) don't really care about some of the dogma except as loyalty test. I think they could accept a blue state Republican provided that man was incredibly ANGRY.

I figure they are all pissed off and feel betrayed by the usual party suspects and there may be room for a candidate who hates everyone... including Mitt Romney. A few years from now, Christie having "betrayed Romney" in 2012 may have morphed to, "stayed on his job rather than dance for the architects of defeat."

I can see them going for (someone calculatedly playing the part of) a Howard Beal... taking an angry man over a more policy-conservative boring-ass Republican pol.

I was thinking of this while thinking about how Republicans have an aversion reaction to any mention of Romney.

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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. I think he would need to not run for reelection to do so. NJians would demand he stay in state
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:06 AM
Nov 2012

He can't do both.

and he will need to do a massive wellness program.

But he did well in NJ during Sandy but he has excess baggage (no pun intended) and is NOT a friend of democrats (though he could be if he permanently changed.)

And watch Cory Booker- if it appears chrisie would win reelection, Cory might go for Senate or a cabinet post instead of Governor, a spot a few months ago he thought he could win.

no sense for Cory to run a losing race.

But my prediction is Jeb will pick Christie as his vp.
He won't win NY or NJ but will use Christie as a pitbull he is.

I do not think Christie can ever become President or VP as Hillary will cream both of them.

But being from NJ, I knew the real Chris Christie for many years, and a compassionate conservative he is not. Why he isn't a liberal democrat, I don't know, what made him turn to the dark side.

Was it because he was bullied over his weight?(as a liberal, I try to find socialogical reasons for things).

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
2. My brain scrambled your post to read: Ninjas would demand he stay in state
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:11 AM
Nov 2012

which prompted a mental image that's cracking me up!

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
5. LOL. BTW, NJ wants to make a tourist attraction out of the Seaside Heights rollercoaster damaged
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:38 AM
Nov 2012


BTW-Chris Christie will be reminded that he said NO loudly to already distributed funds to build a new tunnel from NJ to NY, bringin in 10s of htousands of jobs and millions in fares.
He turned it down bowing to the tea party.
NJ won't forget that either.


exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. Hillary Clinton's success will be dependent on the economy
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:17 AM
Nov 2012

End of story. A slowly recoverying economy almost doomed a capable President over one of the worst candidates in modern American history. Does anyone think either Bush or Christie is going to run such a flawed campaign as Romneys?

If we are in recession in 2016 then a Republican will enter the White House. A good economy and Hillary Clinton will win in a walk a way. A mixed economy like our current one would probably also doom Clinton. The perception would be you had 8 years to fix it, and it is not fixed.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
6. he can win same way McCain, Romney Won, if he can get opponents to split the votes
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:45 AM
Nov 2012

of the more conservative leaning types while he gets the moderates and in places that allow it some indies and Dems.

but i think a bigger problem for him might be health issues. he is not in good shape for a national campaign.

but i think he is happy just being Governor also. he isn't like Mitt Romney who just used the office as a way to run for PResident. i think he would like to be PResident but being governor is something he enjoys also.

if he can get in better shape i think he would be better off for a run after 2016 or even after 2020.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. 2016 is a new ball game
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:59 AM
Nov 2012

It's a different game when the incumbent isn't on the ballot. That's when realignments can occur.

I really think the GOP will go with Huntsman. It's just my prediction and a gut feeling. I know the tea party will get pissed. But I think the party insiders know exactly why they lost this election. I think they will give ground on the social agenda. They will give ground on immigration. And they will pick a woman for VP. No question about that.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. I don't think they can give ground on the social agenda, they lose their most reliable voting bloc
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:35 AM
Nov 2012

The social/religious conservatives are the most motivated to get to the polls and they are motivated by red social agenda meat, no red meat no social conservative vote. I don't see another bloc the Republicans can pick up between now and 2016 that would remotely fill the hole departing social conservatives would leave.

The Republicans jumped on that tiger quite a while ago, getting off without becoming a chew toy is now going to be a major problem for them, religious conservatives play for keeps and they are already pre-forgiven for any dirty tricks they might decide to engage in.

Trying to predict how 2016 will go down at this juncture isn't even science fiction, it's fantasy.

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