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Katie Porter laced into "special interests and billionaires" who spent money against her unsuccessful Senate campaign Tuesday night, after acknowledging her campaign came up short.
"Because of you, we have the establishment running scared," Porter told a supportive crowd in Long Beach, before making an implicit swipe at Rep. Adam Schiff as her "opponent spending more to boost the Republican than promoting his own campaign."
Porter portrayed herself as an unconventional candidate, one who veered from the typical "polished" persona and was one of the rare single mothers in Congress.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/05/super-tuesday-2024/katie-porter-senate-race-campaign-ends-00145279
Cha
(297,911 posts)Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi Endorse Adam Schiff.. I Rspect Them.
https://thehill.com/homenews/4443492-former-sen-barbara-boxer-endorses-adam-schiff-in-senate-race/
Another event that the former Senator said irked her occurred this week.
continued: more from Barbara Boxer
And now saying that hes against women when Adam Schiff has been, what we call as women in politics, Sir Galahad. Hes a Sir Galahad. Thats why Nancy Pelosi endorsed him. Hes a great guy and hes been side by side with us every step of the way. So yes, this has pushed me over the line.
Apparently Sen Boxer was going to stay out of until she saw all the Attacks on Schiff from Porter.
to Nixie in California who linked this post from Feb 19
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18700215
Good Luck to Adm Schiff!
and
Link to tweet
Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)* and I was almost ready to reach for my bingo card.
Cha
(297,911 posts)Please Check out these Tweets..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18754210
And yeah, she hit so many on the Bingo card.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)I she that she made a weak effort to walk-back that accusation, but I'm not buying it. She doesn't live under a rock. She knows that that's how REPUBLICANS behave and try to manipulate voters with those blatant VOTER SUPPRESSION words that cause citizens and voters to distrust the process. SHAME ON HER for saying that and smearing Adam Schiff.
Thanks for the link... I'd missed that completely.
Cha
(297,911 posts)all went down.
Good Luck to her District in November.
betsuni
(25,742 posts)Cha
(297,911 posts)Adam Schiff is one of a kind.. There's No "mold" for him, Porter.
Was that her concession speech?
betsuni
(25,742 posts)What is she talking about?
RandySF
(59,558 posts)I love Katie Porter and hate to see her go out this way.
betsuni
(25,742 posts)Should've tried to follow in the footsteps of Elizabeth Warren, who must also be "establishment" beholden to Big this and that according to the purity test.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)But she actually was "following in the footsteps of Elizabeth Warren"
betsuni
(25,742 posts)She actually gets things done, and when Warren has a plan it works, not populist promises.
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Cha
(297,911 posts)Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer Wanted Schiff, too.. they know what's going on.
Boxer said she was going to stay out of it until Porter start attacking Schiff basically Without Merit.
https://thehill.com/homenews/4443492-former-sen-barbara-boxer-endorses-adam-schiff-in-senate-race/
Another event that the former Senator said irked her occurred this week.
continued: more from Barbara Boxer
And now saying that hes against women when Adam Schiff has been, what we call as women in politics, Sir Galahad. Hes a Sir Galahad. Thats why Nancy Pelosi endorsed him. Hes a great guy and hes been side by side with us every step of the way. So yes, this has pushed me over the line.
Apparently Sen Boxer was going to stay out of until she saw all the Attacks on Schiff from Porter.
to Nixie in California who linked this post from Feb 19
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18700215
Good Luck to Adm Schiff!
and
Link to tweet
Abolishinist
(1,320 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:11 PM - Edit history (2)
but I'm with you. I tolerated her at first, but then totally changed my mind after attending a fundraiser for her.
After she spoke, I was able to have a one-on-one talk with her. In her speech she mentioned wanting to bring the federal minimum wage up to the level of California. I had a few issues with this that I put forward, was curious as to her take, but when I brought it up she told me in no uncertain terms that I was wrong, gave me this off-putting glare that I interpreted as being I'm a freakin' idiot, and turned away from me and started a conversation with someone else. THIS after we'd just given her a thousand dollars for her campaign. IMO she has ZERO skills when it comes to dealing with anyone.
As a fairly new house member should have stayed out of the race. Adam Schiff (who we also attended a fundraiser for, he was great!) has put in his time, and I'm so glad he's the nominee. I couldn't care less about Ms. Porter's future.
Cha
(297,911 posts)so sorry that happened to you!
Nothing like being rude to potential Votes at one's Fundraiser.
The Best Person for California and America Definitely Won!
Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)* other things that I've seen and heard about, during her time in office. By all accounts, she was right where she needed to be and probably should have stayed-put.
The behavior you described was very off-putting. Zero skills, indeed... especially at a fundraiser's meet-and-greet where the attendees are paying-guests/supporters. The hostility and dismissive manner shown you was undeserved (it's not as if she was at some county fair and a rando/nut from the crowd started shouting bizarre and off-the-wall questions at her.)
There's a reason she lost. The voters were tired of (or simply tolerant of) her schtick and whiteboard gimmicks and they correctly decided that she was not the right person to send to the US Senate to represent California.
betsuni
(25,742 posts)Have similar goals but different ideas about policies? You're wrong. Not only are you wrong but the enemy. They're right, they're right, and everybody knows it, so if you have a different idea you're corrupt, immoral, evil. You have failed the purity test and in you go with the establishment, centrists, billionaires, oligarchs and all the other many enemies.
Dorian Gray
(13,515 posts)but this was a big ding against her. Sour grapes don't taste good to the people who supported Schiff, either.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Was my fist thought. If you cant lose gracefully it is very revealing.
Schiffand Swalwell are the future of our party. I am proud of both of them. Gavin Newsome is another. We have a boatload of great candidates.
sheshe2
(83,989 posts)This is on her.
Cha
(297,911 posts)that about our Beautiful Establishment
Didn't work then either.
Cha
(297,911 posts)Saving Our Democracy Or about someone's feelings after they lost Fair And Square?!
Actually this Attitude tells me who KP is.
Barbara Boxer Disagrees with Katie Porter..
Former Sen. Barbara Boxer endorses Adam Schiff in Senate race
https://thehill.com/homenews/4443492-former-sen-barbara-boxer-endorses-adam-schiff-in-senate-race/
Another event that the former Senator said irked her occurred this week.
continued: more from Barbara Boxer
And now saying that hes against women when Adam Schiff has been, what we call as women in politics, Sir Galahad. Hes a Sir Galahad. Thats why Nancy Pelosi endorsed him. Hes a great guy and hes been side by side with us every step of the way. So yes, this has pushed me over the line.
Apparently Sen Boxer was going to stay out of until she saw all the Attacks on Schiff from Porter.
to Nixie in California who linked this post from Feb 19
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18700215
So Grateful Adam Schiff Won!
sheshe2
(83,989 posts)I stand with Boxer and Pelosi on this. I trust their judgement and I trust my own, he is the best one for this Senate seat.
TY
Cha
(297,911 posts)sheshe2
(83,989 posts)Thanks for the heads up about his guest Teresa Romero...I need to read up on her history.
Cha
(297,911 posts)Too when I get home 🏡.
Ill be on DU. Getting the Scoop here like I always do.
Heres to it going Smoothly for PJB and Not for the Howlers.
Enjoy 💙🌊🇺🇸🕯️🕊️
SocialDemocrat61
(693 posts)Bit of a sore loser.
Cha
(297,911 posts)DFW
(54,467 posts)Had I been in her position, looking toward the future, I would have been looking to build bridges, not burn them.
karynnj
(59,507 posts)Looking at the early numbers, she polled far behind Schiff and there were more Democrats splitting the Democratic leaning part of the electorate. Her internal numbers must have shown it likely that she would lose.
It is likely that the Schiff ads consolidated the Republicans behind Garvey, but as there were only two significant Republicans, she would have needed the Republicans to be almost equal for her to be close to the second highest vote getter as she is getting less that a third of the Democratic vote at this point. It looks like the D/R split is 60/40. (Even then she would need the total Republicans to be below 40 percent or her share to increase in the remaining half)
Bucky
(54,087 posts)I understand her anger at Schiff. But everything he did was fair play. And it helps California avoid a giant "DvD" election that might be divisive among our coalition and a drain on our dollars.
I would've preferred her if I lived out there, but it's not like Adam Schiff in the Senate is going to be a bad thing. His voting differences with Porter are barely noticeable. And it's pretty damn unlikely that this is the last we'll hear from her.
karynnj
(59,507 posts)Their losses were tougher than hers because their losses were to a Republican where there would be huge differences. They were also passionate about what they could have done and clearly devastated. They were gracious and emphasized respect for the voters and government.
I think she will seek to work through government, possibly appointed rather than elected. If not in government, than in one of the policy foundations.
Of course a lot of those think tanks are supported by those same big corporations that she sees sucker punching consumers in the wallet. She'll have an interesting trajectory in front of her.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)I once did an activity at a "racial healing" workshop many years back. To give the participants insight into feeling "left out" the facilitators had us split into two groups. The insiders hold hands and formed a circle which weren't to let other people join. The outsiders were tasked with trying to join the circle by trying to hold the insiders' hands in that circle.
The body language of the insiders stiffened and went from holding hands to tightening in the circle to a smaller space, eventually pressing their elbows together to protect their hands from being touched by the outsiders. The outsiders got more frantic and desperate in their attempts to break into the circle.
Right now Katie's gotta be feeling that latter type of desperation. The Senate is that kind of club. Boxer taking Schiff's side seems like those insiders pressing elbows together and locking her out. When it's coming from Dems, it's gonna hurt more. Fighting to get in and coming that close: I know that feeling too well, but I haven't had her life experiences, haven't known the same betrayals that she's triumphed over in her past. It's the kind of experience that gives birth to wisdom. I'm cool with her showing a little bitterness. We need more pissed off people fighting for what's right in this democracy. I don't think she'll stay bitter. But she's not a "happy warrior" personality type cause she knows what's at stake if she doesn't go out and fight for the people she trying to protect.
Walleye
(31,111 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)RandySF
(59,558 posts)hes a religious minority during a time of increased antisemitism.
SoFlaBro
(1,988 posts)Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)I live in Ohio so I was furious that Porter supported Nina Turner. I could not vote in California clearly, but if I could, I would have voted for Schiff...we need team players in the Senate.
Kid Berwyn
(15,018 posts)Sounds like someone we need on our side.
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Renew Deal
(81,889 posts)So I dont think shes that scary.
Kid Berwyn
(15,018 posts)Its like inflation in Weimar Germany. Ms. Porter did not take PAC money, which is a beautiful thing for people who want to reduce the influence of wealthy people and organizations in politics. Scary situation, not being powerful anymore.
Renew Deal
(81,889 posts)She could have had a pac and an extra billion dollars. It wouldnt have made a difference. She didnt lose because of policy differences or righteousness. Schiff won because hes a solid Democrat with more experience. Prosecuting the impeachments also helped with name recognition.
Kid Berwyn
(15,018 posts)In mine, I consider both outstanding Democrats.
Renew Deal
(81,889 posts)womanofthehills
(8,796 posts)AIPAC is going after all our progressive candidates. AOC recently said they are coming for her. Ryan Grim reported they offered AOC millions but she declined.
Schiff, who drew millions in AIPAC-affiliated money, hewed closely to President Joe Bidens robust support of Israel in its war with Hamas, not using the term ceasefire until recently, when he said he endorsed Bidens plan for a six-week pause in the fighting.
His top two Democratic rivals were tougher on Israel: Rep. Katie Porter called for a bilateral ceasefire contingent on the release of hostages still held by Hamas, but excoriated Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for hindering humanitarian assistance to Gaza Palestinians. Rep. Barbara Lee called for an immediate and permanent ceasefire with no preconditions.. the Jewish News of Northern California. https://jweekly.com/2024/03/06/adam-schiff-with-aipac-backing-advances-to-senate-race/
Renew Deal
(81,889 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,129 posts)betsuni
(25,742 posts)Nixie
(17,000 posts)who don't recite their pet phrases? They just don't like it when it happens to them. Maybe they just don't like politics because they can't seem to figure it all out:
betsuni
(25,742 posts)We're told that evil oligarchs, corporations and billionaires control and rig everything, the Democratic Party in cahoots, beholden to all the bad people and thoroughly corrupted but they pee in their pants if someone in Congress gives a speech about raising taxes or regulating business or something? Huh?
Jose Garcia
(2,610 posts)Walleye
(31,111 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,018 posts)Heres a good article that did not get discussed much by the pundits or Congress:
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Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 18 September 2014
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page
Abstract
Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politicswhich can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralismoffers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
SNIP...
Who governs? Who really rules? To what extent is the broad body of U.S. citizens sovereign, semi-sovereign, or largely powerless? These questions have animated much important work in the study of American politics.
While this body of research is rich and variegated, it can loosely be divided into four families of theories: Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralismMajoritarian Pluralism, in which the interests of all citizens are more or less equally represented, and Biased Pluralism, in which corporations, business associations, and professional groups predominate. Each of these perspectives makes different predictions about the independent influence upon U.S. policy making of four sets of actors: the Average Citizen or median voter, Economic Elites, and Mass-based or Business-oriented Interest Groups or industries.
SNIP...
The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence. Our results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
Continues...
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B
Nixie
(17,000 posts)And now her district looks to be going down to a Repub because two Democrats were fighting over who has the purest money. Katie's campaign was only about accusing others of being dirty, and California voters said they wanted more from a Senator than purity tests over money.
Katie also boosted a Republican. She boosted one Repub candidate that didn't have enough support to make the debate stage.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/min-weiss-ad-porter-seat-00139366
"The intraparty contest between two Democrats vying for Rep. Katie Porters toss-up Orange County seat is rapidly emerging as one of the most vicious primary battles in California.
The latest salvo: an ad from state Sen. Dave Min accusing his rival, Joanna Weiss, of powering her campaign with money earned through the legal defense of sex offenders. The attack comes a week after Weiss released an ad slamming Min for his DUI arrest last year."
baklava
(16 posts)is likely going to lose a Dem seat because of Porter's ego.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,995 posts)and be happy with what she had, I guess.
NanaCat
(1,390 posts)It's not a surprise that a more experienced candidate, and one who isn't all that far off from her when it comes to policy, is more likely to appeal to voters.
That's just the way it is, and she needed to be more mature and gracious when that reality materialised for her.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,995 posts)It was all about how her ego was big and made her run and ruined everything.
jalan48
(13,906 posts)Nixie
(17,000 posts)In my experience, the people who make this risible accusation tend to support loser candidates.
It's unkind and offensive to accuse other voters of being so very stupid that a corporation can affect their votes. Maybe that's the real reason the oh-so-pure candidates lose.
TakeItEasy
(25 posts)Her political career is not over and she'll be back.
Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)She can be really great... but she needs to figure out how to see the forest for the trees.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)Hardly.
Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)I had high hopes for her, but she blames everybody but herself, which is a HUGE tell for me.
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)betsuni
(25,742 posts)DFW
(54,467 posts)betsuni
(25,742 posts)I'm a little disappointed there hasn't been a "Thanks, Biden" like the "Thanks, Obama" meme.
DFW
(54,467 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)It's ancient history now. I wrote it almost 20 years ago. I sent him the lyrics while he was recuperating from his bypass surgery, and he sent me a hand-written note of appreciation--which I could hardly decipher! His handwriting is atrocious.
shrike3
(3,843 posts)Atrocious handwriting.
DFW
(54,467 posts)I guess he never had to learn to hand-write coherently. My friends and I literally took half an hour to try and figure out what he had written me!
shrike3
(3,843 posts)Kind of sucks, you've got a letter from a president and you can't read the darn thing.
Loved your song, btw. Almost nostalgic. Back when they could blame everything on Bill.
DFW
(54,467 posts)This was the other:
This one is still as relevant as it was almost 20 years ago (and does our guy do great gospel or what?)
JI7
(89,281 posts)mcar
(42,426 posts)She lost. She needs to stop pushing "the system is rigged" nonsense and move on.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)people here in California are stupid because they only voted for Schiff because of his donations.
betsuni
(25,742 posts)JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)* and a skilled politician would have been able to be just ambiguous enough to leave room for plausible denial, or for non-cynical and kind listeners to eagerly give the benefit of the doubt. To these ears and eyes, there's no doubt what was meant.
It's my guess that the "Our Revolution" group/pac will need to come out with a new handbook/playbook.
betsuni
(25,742 posts)some people are saying a candidate is the lesser of two evils, etc. -- much safer.
Is this the sunsetting of her political career? Or will she try again later?
Mike Nelson
(9,977 posts)... I liked her so much...
Chakaconcarne
(2,474 posts)republianmushroom
(13,785 posts)It is possible. I vote for Adam. I believe he will be a much better Senator than you.
Crunchy Frog
(26,698 posts)where they were pitted against each other. There was always going to be a major sense of loss whichever one won. They are both outstanding Democrats, and would both make outstanding senators.
I think it probably would have been best if Katie would have agreed to stay with her House seat for right now, but I definitely think they should have worked something out between them.
Really hate to lose Katie, and will be extra sorry if the seat goes to an R.
shrike3
(3,843 posts)DemocratInPa
(361 posts)That sits there and just rips Dems..
Glad you loss now Katie..
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)Presumably you would like to return to politics in the near future, so don't burn those bridges just because you lost a primary. It happens.
I'm not a billionaire and I'm not ""'the establishment,""" but I didn't like you attacking Schiff the way you did and I did not support you in the primary.
Instead of blaming everyone else for your failures, look within. Schiff was the better candidate, he ran the better campaign, and he actually spent time attacking his MAGA opponents rather than fellow Democrats.
SoFlaBro
(1,988 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,269 posts)I really liked at first, but then the little white boards began to give one hit wonder vibes . And then she went on to endorse Nina Turner. Nina friggin Turner. Wth?
And then saying the election was rigged, is just too much. Go Schiff, bye bye Katie.
SoFlaBro
(1,988 posts)Retrograde
(10,173 posts)here in the Bay Area, all featuring the white board. I ff-ed through them since I had already sent in my ballot, but if I were undecided I don't think they'd sway me.
SoFlaBro
(1,988 posts)betsuni
(25,742 posts)See one anti-Republican ad and instantly brainwashed: Must vote Schiff, establishment good, status quo good, Porter bad, must vote Schiff.
She had 28 million dollars.
bottomofthehill
(8,353 posts)Thirteen percent, did not win a single county
.
She may be loved here, but she is not what 87 percent of the voters in California wanted.
tinrobot
(10,927 posts)Schiff was on the impeachment team and J6 committee. Also chaired the Intelligence committee. Meanwhile, Porter was drawing on a whiteboard with colored markers.
For me, the choice was easy, I picked the candidate with the resume and gravitas needed to become a great Senator.
Nothing against Porter, but she's still got a ways to go. And, right now, she needs to grow up.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,754 posts)patphil
(6,236 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,728 posts)That's a good one!
StarryNite
(9,464 posts)I'm very disappointed in her after that. Before that I liked her although I feel Adam Schiff is better qualified.
I heard her speak out against/attack Schiff, the less I liked her.
GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)since she is extremely effective. I do not like 2 strong Dems going head to head - when there is no got damn reason for it !!!!
It wastes money and can create bad blood.
LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)spooky3
(34,510 posts)Porter had done a lot of good. I hope she will find her way.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,723 posts)I wish Ms. Porter had read the tea leaves and decided not to challenge Adam. We needed her voice in the House.
Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)Tom of Temecula
(1,246 posts)But it is time to move on.
BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)Cant win em all, Katie.