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Keith Olbermann went off the deep end yesterday (Original Post) Polybius Mar 5 OP
Dear claudette Mar 5 #1
No there isn't a way to fix this edisdead Mar 6 #28
I used to like him when he was on MSNBC but he seems to have lost the plot. Ocelot II Mar 5 #2
It could be dissolved via Constitutional Amendment, but that will almost certainly never happen. Celerity Mar 5 #5
I didn't even mention that possibility because it's so remote. Ocelot II Mar 5 #8
I only responded because you made an absolute statement: Celerity Mar 5 #12
Point taken. Ocelot II Mar 5 #13
I agree reforms are needed but not dissolution. BlueKota Mar 5 #14
Haven't listened to that guy in years. redqueen Mar 5 #3
Are lifetime appointments not voted on by the people Johonny Mar 5 #4
"dissolved" might not be the right word angrychair Mar 5 #6
The SC is corrupt and illegitimate. Irish_Dem Mar 5 #7
Be that as it may, it's not going to be "dissolved" without a constitutional amendment, Ocelot II Mar 5 #9
Facing reality is the first step in problem solving. Irish_Dem Mar 5 #11
It was 9-0 Polybius Mar 6 #17
I respect anyone trying to save democracy. Coming up with any ideas to put on the table. Irish_Dem Mar 6 #25
Exactly MFM008 Mar 6 #29
Should we be thankful he didn't say "liquidated?" Renew Deal Mar 5 #10
In his defense... Dr. Strange Mar 5 #15
He's got a lot of nerve Polybius Mar 6 #19
The supreme court sucks these days. Demsrule86 Mar 6 #22
Yeah, but dissolve it? Polybius Mar 6 #24
Most of his podcasts are pretty good Buckeyeblue Mar 5 #16
I remember when Olbermann was the sports guy on local SoCal TV News... WarGamer Mar 6 #18
Personally, I love Keith and believe the Surpreme court is a rogue court and is in the process of Demsrule86 Mar 6 #20
I don't disagree with that Polybius Mar 6 #21
He's actually raising a good point though ecstatic Mar 6 #23
I respect anyone facing reality and coming up with ideas to save democracy. Irish_Dem Mar 6 #26
Oh, Keith. Maybe it's time to retire. Oopsie Daisy Mar 6 #27
Why MFM008 Mar 6 #30
The replies here are unreal. edisdead Mar 6 #31
I cringed when I saw that the other day. I almost posted about it. He was good during the W years, but he themaguffin Mar 6 #32

claudette

(3,600 posts)
1. Dear
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:22 AM
Mar 5

Lord! It’s not the end of the world!! There’s a way for Congress to fix this. I stopped listening to his podcasts. Olbermann often goes off the deep end. His music is too loud and annoying and the sports comments are not relevant to me. He is most often on a bragging ego trip. I’m done with him.

edisdead

(1,957 posts)
28. No there isn't a way to fix this
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:13 AM
Mar 6

Congress will never be able to fix this. That is the point of kicking it back to congress.

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)
2. I used to like him when he was on MSNBC but he seems to have lost the plot.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:22 AM
Mar 5

The Supreme Court can't be "dissolved." It could be expanded by an act of Congress, and maybe it should be. But it's written into the Constitution, and its members have lifetime appointments. The fact that some of the justices are corrupt or ideologically extreme or both is a failure of the way justices are appointed, but the notion that the court should (or could) be dissolved on that account is nonsense, and he should know better. And, btw, the concurring opinion of Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson certainly doesn't evidence a lack of reading comprehension - but maybe Keith should try a little reading comprehension on the Constitution.

Celerity

(43,540 posts)
12. I only responded because you made an absolute statement:
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:14 PM
Mar 5
The Supreme Court can't be "dissolved."

Which, regardless of how remote the possibilities are of it occurring, is not the case.

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)
13. Point taken.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:20 PM
Mar 5

But some people seem to think that constitutional amendments are the way to fix everything, while in fact they are as rare as hens' teeth, and even those that do pass often take years. The Equal Rights Amendment has been in the works for 100 years and still hasn't passed.

BlueKota

(1,788 posts)
14. I agree reforms are needed but not dissolution.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:45 PM
Mar 5

I think there shouldn't be lifetime terms,
and conflict of interest recusal should be mandatory not voluntary, and if there is undeniable proof a "justice" is guilty of breaking the law or committing severe ethical violations, automatic dismissal.

Also there needs to be a way found to reduce politicizing the appoint process, but I have no clue what that would be.
Maybe something like having the leadership of the American Bar Association select a list of actually qualified candidates, that the President has to select his nominees from. There probably isn't a way to completely eliminate politics, but it definitely needs something to lessen it.

Johonny

(20,889 posts)
4. Are lifetime appointments not voted on by the people
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:30 AM
Mar 5

In anyway a great democratic institution? Am I missing something? It's classic Keith hyperbole, but the SC is hardly a great example of a democratic institution. It's an elitist club picked by whoever happens to be President at the time one of the club kicks the bucket, who is then annoited by a Senate that itself is hardly representative of the actual population given the moronic idea land is more valuable to making the senate than the people of the US.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
6. "dissolved" might not be the right word
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 5

"rebuilt" or "reconfigured" might be better.
The whole thing needs a rework. From limiting Justices to just 20 years on SCOTUS bench or 70 yrs old, whichever comes first, to a robust ethical code that includes a review of all ethical code accusations by a 3 judge panel of randomly selected appellate court judges that have the name of the SCOTUS justice removed from all documents reviewed to avoid bias. Review panel's judgement is final and if found guilty the justice is removed immediately if the violation is over $500.

Irish_Dem

(47,442 posts)
7. The SC is corrupt and illegitimate.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:57 AM
Mar 5

He is speaking the truth.

It is time to start having courage to speak out.

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)
9. Be that as it may, it's not going to be "dissolved" without a constitutional amendment,
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:09 PM
Mar 5

which is beyond improbable. It's one thing to gripe about a problem; coming up with a workable solution is a lot harder.

Irish_Dem

(47,442 posts)
11. Facing reality is the first step in problem solving.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:11 PM
Mar 5

And is actually the hardest part when solving any problem.

So for people to have the courage to face the problem head on is to be applauded.

Just because their solution is not perfect is not a good reason to shoot down
the first correct part of the message.

Polybius

(15,489 posts)
17. It was 9-0
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 12:24 AM
Mar 6

Also, he can disagree but he called for dissolving it. That's crazy talk. I heard someone call him "Blue Maga" last night on a liberal YouTube show.

Irish_Dem

(47,442 posts)
25. I respect anyone trying to save democracy. Coming up with any ideas to put on the table.
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 07:51 AM
Mar 6

We can tear apart the idea but at least the OP is doing more than just whining.

I will make no comment on the 9-0.

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
29. Exactly
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:36 AM
Mar 6

If the court can't be expanded to soften the blow from Trump's padding of it , then it should be dissolved because otherwise they're going to tear the hell out of every single decision that's been made favorable to democracy.
Keith is pissed and so am I.

Polybius

(15,489 posts)
19. He's got a lot of nerve
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 12:28 AM
Mar 6

All someone said was "Cry more… 9-0" and he responded "Those aren't tears, Fascist. They're urine. I'm sure you enjoy being bathed in it."

Seriously, WTF is he to call someone a fascist after mild criticism? He really is "Blue Maga" as someone pointed out. We're better than that.

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
20. Personally, I love Keith and believe the Surpreme court is a rogue court and is in the process of
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 12:53 AM
Mar 6

destroying themselves.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
23. He's actually raising a good point though
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 12:56 AM
Mar 6

We're talking about an illegitimate and corrupt Supreme Court that is systematically rolling back rights that we've depended on for decades. The motherfuckers take bribes. They openly contradict their own rulings to suit their needs at the moment. And, of course, one of the seats was outright stolen. Two if you count what happened with ACB.

At what point will we say enough is enough? Are we supposed to patiently wait this out until we're back in the dark ages? And if so, why? Because? They've already set the tone for what can happen. We can now safely ignore an amendment. Thanks Supreme Court!

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
30. Why
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:40 AM
Mar 6

Is it that somebody shows a little passion or anger Democrats get all trembly and quivering?
We take such a high road that we disappear into the clouds.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
32. I cringed when I saw that the other day. I almost posted about it. He was good during the W years, but he
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:45 AM
Mar 6

kept ramping up and everything became over the top even with so much that is messed up, he just became noise and that's unfortunate.

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