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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy personal history with Ms SWIFT. And about being zapped for the "Tay Tay" term of endearment.
The first I heard of Taylor SWIFT was in 2013 when Kanye WEST stepped on her award, showing what a jackass (as OBAMA called him) he is. What I saw was this perfectly nice and VULNERABLE young woman having public humiliation thrown at her. I didnt know anything else about her, none of her music. The little I looked up afterward was that she grew up White rich. This info was useful when soon my local radio talk show wingnut who prides himself on his country club White Privilege, commented how gah-gah he was over her, reinforcing my profile of him as being a White Privilege stick-in-the-mud. But even he couldnt diminish my image of her as being just NICE.
Next, in 2014 she put out this song, Out of the Woods, which slayed me. Her verbal introduction was startling, how one of her relationships was characterized by anxiety. The SONG is smashing, fits all my pop criteria. But in recent years it now means to me the total, complete ANXIETY that the jerk-ahole Drumpf has inflicted on me/all of us since 2015. But as always with me, the MUSIC/MELODY is the #1 thing, lyrics being secondary (if the MELODY aint there, the words dont matter, no matter how good they are). As such, I have not sought out any other of her music. I only like what I like, one thing here, one thing there.
THIS song - uh, "ERROR"? - internet news says her vids have been removed? :
Next, the conventional pop cliché that she writes songs about her relationships is all that filtered down to my level. And then came the years of jackass Kanye WESTs and the KARDASH womans feuding and harassing her.
Skipping ahead, news that she had achieved self-made billionaire status, fine. Next, another breakup followed swiftly (yeah, I know) by the current blazing romance with a perfectly nice-seeming jock who has a nice brother and family, and his own independent career success. Fine, my passing, none-of-my-business concern that fizzling out is always a possibility -- gadzooks, something else for my anxiety!1
I never heard she was political, lately heard she had commented favorably (endorsed? ) about BIDEN/Dems (in 2020?). Now seems the wingnut whackjobs are in a political dither that she might be a political force against them. Fine with me, although the rumble that the Dem operative-professionals are actively trying to recruit her officially is a *concern* because clueless, uncharismatic political Pros usually screw things up.
*** But on a personal level, with the current kerfluffle about politics and her, I made some positive comments here about her and linked Out of the Woods, and referred to her *affectionately* as TayTay, naively thinking I was being totally acceptable, and to my horror, I got ZAPPED as being disrespectful and exercising infantilism against her. I had never heard that this was a pejorative, besides that the Jock was said in a tabloid that HIS nickname for her was just Tay, with NO/ZERO objection from her being noted. Now there have been others posting Tay Tay while not being scourged for it. Repeating, it was a term of endearment from me, who was trying to be with it and hip and kewl. Never works for me.
sinkingfeeling
(51,479 posts)UTUSN
(70,761 posts)blm
(113,103 posts)would think that of you.
UTUSN
(70,761 posts)emulatorloo
(44,200 posts)niyad
(113,600 posts)a Swiftie, and , therefore, possibly in the know, I googled it. And there it was, number two on the Taylor Swift links.
And thank you. Having seen several references to that creep kanye, or whatever he calls himself, I also googled to see what that was all about. What a disgusting, drunken asshole he was (still an asshole, don't know about the "drunk" part). He and kimmie are quite the pair.
From everything I have learned in the past few days about Ms. Swift (nit having really known anything beyond her role in "Valentine's Day" ), she appears to be smart, talented, compassionate, caring, savvy, generous, and NICE. Plus, she loves cats!!!
UTUSN
(70,761 posts)Have a diagnosis *AND* be a jerk.
niyad
(113,600 posts)Elessar Zappa
(14,085 posts)Its all good.
obamanut2012
(26,155 posts)I didn't see people going after you about that or I would have said something.
Tay-Tay, Meredith, Olivia, and Benjamin would all tell folks to just Shake it Off!.
UTUSN
(70,761 posts)stopdiggin
(11,385 posts)and as any young person will lay on you - you must immediately and solemnly swear to "stop trying" - -
Other than that terrible faux pas - can relate to pretty much everything you have expressed here. Don't know all the details and ins and outs of either her catalogue or personal story - not my particular 'brand' - but she writes good stuff, is hugely talented - mind blowingly successful (while apparently working her butt off in the process) - but moreover (from a somewhat uninvested point of view), simply appears to be a nice person and decent human being.
SarahD
(1,253 posts)My next door neighbors have a daughter named Taylor, about the same age as Taylor Swift. As far as I know, the still goes by Tay Tay with friends and family.
John1956PA
(2,659 posts)I was watching that night fifteen years ago. She portrayed an enthusiastic Annie in the opening skit. When The Phantom rebuffed her, she she shook her fist at him. She shouted that she "had a hard enough life" and threatened to thrash him. I, like probably most viewers, did not realize who was portraying Annie. However, since Taylor Swift was the announced musical guest, the pieces eventually came together.
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