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Fullduplexxx

(7,870 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:58 PM Jan 2024

Hunter Biden reverses course, would sit for closed-door deposition with new subpoena by: Emily Brooks, Alex Gangitano, T

Hunter Biden reverses course, would sit for closed-door deposition with new subpoena
by: Emily Brooks, Alex Gangitano, The Hill


Hunter Biden reversed course Friday and said he would agree to give closed-door testimony to Congress if the House Oversight and Judiciary committees issue new subpoenas.


Jeezuz wtf

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Hunter Biden reverses course, would sit for closed-door deposition with new subpoena by: Emily Brooks, Alex Gangitano, T (Original Post) Fullduplexxx Jan 2024 OP
I think it's good he's doing these unexpected things, he's fucking with them Walleye Jan 2024 #1
Fucking with them ? He fkg surrendered ... Fullduplexxx Jan 2024 #3
I dont think so. drray23 Jan 2024 #6
Well we will never know now will we Fullduplexxx Jan 2024 #7
No, his attorneys told him he would be convicted of contempt. former9thward Jan 2024 #18
And you know this how? Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #34
Yeah, no. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #35
Not exactly. See what Rep. Moskowitz had to say about the agreement... brush Jan 2024 #27
Good For Whom? RobinA Jan 2024 #9
It is exposing the true character of these committee members Walleye Jan 2024 #16
Agree. Maybe best defense is a good offense. Maybe they can record deposition and use wiggs Jan 2024 #17
He's made it blatantly obvious the whole thing is a sham. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #2
It means all his previous posturing is pointless Fullduplexxx Jan 2024 #4
Not really claudette Jan 2024 #12
The Democrats were going to be there the first time. former9thward Jan 2024 #19
Except the claudette Jan 2024 #22
The chair can say what he wants. Igel Jan 2024 #32
Do the closed-doors depo, take the 5th and be gone. Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #5
Yes I think he was just arraigned today on one of them Walleye Jan 2024 #11
your on to something there gives them nothing, hydrolastic Jan 2024 #33
No problem claudette Jan 2024 #8
Republicans are probably thinking this is another trap Emile Jan 2024 #10
Hunter's lawyer claudette Jan 2024 #15
It's going to be interesting to see what the Emile Jan 2024 #23
It is going claudette Jan 2024 #30
Hunter is a lawyer too Skittles Jan 2024 #26
Right claudette Jan 2024 #29
I think so as well. nt wiggs Jan 2024 #20
house maga is overmatched here. they are unmoored from principle, process, reason, wiggs Jan 2024 #21
He is surely acting on advice of counsel EYESORE 9001 Jan 2024 #13
Am thinking perhaps the breadth of the new subpoena issued could be challenged before appearing Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #14
I read part of Lowell's letter...not sure they agreed to 'closed door' deposition as the headline suggests. The wiggs Jan 2024 #24
Hunter would comply with a new GOP subpoena struggle4progress Jan 2024 #25
Don't do it. yourout Jan 2024 #28
They're just looking for something EndlessWire Jan 2024 #31
First subpoena wasn't valid and Hunter offered public testimony anyways EleanorR Jan 2024 #36

Fullduplexxx

(7,870 posts)
3. Fucking with them ? He fkg surrendered ...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:02 PM
Jan 2024

He caved and is now giving the child caucus what they wanted

drray23

(7,637 posts)
6. I dont think so.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jan 2024

Hunter Biden is smarter than the lot of them, not to mention his attorney Abbe Lowel is a legendary white colar and political attorney. Between Hunter and his legal team, they will run circle around the idiot gop

former9thward

(32,080 posts)
18. No, his attorneys told him he would be convicted of contempt.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jan 2024

Not a good look for his two criminal cases.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
9. Good For Whom?
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jan 2024

Not his Dad's presidential campaign. If I never hear the name Hunter Biden again it will be too soon. And I realize he's being used, but he did get himself into this mess and now I wish he'd STFU and settle it with as little drama as possible.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
17. Agree. Maybe best defense is a good offense. Maybe they can record deposition and use
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:23 PM
Jan 2024

any fabrications against the maga questioners. Maybe all along, the gop knows they have zero evidence and will face plant again.

Maybe HB and dems will make a stronger case in the media about contradictions and lies the maga gop have been telling...easy case to make, and now that Hunter and Lowell have the nation's attention they can go on the offensive to correct misinformation. They can summarize 6 years of DOJ investigations and ask why. He is a victim of politicization and hasn't really combatted the gop and media narratives...yet.

Next week is a short week and they have deadlines looming...and the maga questioners will have their hands full either ousting MJ or allowing a vote on a compromise bill. Would look bad to be pursuing side shows next week.

claudette

(3,593 posts)
12. Not really
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:14 PM
Jan 2024

His lawyer got a new subpoena issued since the vote hadn't been taken to issue the first one. He won on that score. Also, Hunter's lawyer will be there and other Democrats to verify the TRUTH.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
32. The chair can say what he wants.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jan 2024

The committee's the voice that counts.

Used to chair a variety of committees. My commitment said on my own authority was known to be pretty much crap--I wasn't puppetmaster.

Sneederbunk

(14,301 posts)
5. Do the closed-doors depo, take the 5th and be gone.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:06 PM
Jan 2024

Reason for taking the 5th: He has criminal matters pending.

claudette

(3,593 posts)
8. No problem
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jan 2024

His lawyer and other Democrats will be there to call magats "liars" when they try to lie or misrepresent what Hunter said. I'm not worried.

Emile

(22,919 posts)
10. Republicans are probably thinking this is another trap
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jan 2024

to embarrass them even more. It could very well be too, lol.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
21. house maga is overmatched here. they are unmoored from principle, process, reason,
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:33 PM
Jan 2024

duty. They are laser focused on Fox soundbites and so will crash upon the rocky shores of Lowell's trap one way or another because Lowell is focused on the law, justice, process, and his client. Bluster and hollow motives will drown.

Freethinker65

(10,048 posts)
14. Am thinking perhaps the breadth of the new subpoena issued could be challenged before appearing
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:14 PM
Jan 2024

The subpoena needs to be confined to evidence the House thinks Hunter may have that pertains specifically to the hearing (of course, this actually has nothing to do with evidence).

For example, if the GOP House cannot control themselves and start questioning Hunter's "balls", personal and family life, or addiction issues, Hunter can, upon advice from his attorney, refuse to answer anything further.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
24. I read part of Lowell's letter...not sure they agreed to 'closed door' deposition as the headline suggests. The
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jan 2024

statement said:

“You have not explained why you are not interested in transparency and having the American people witness the full and complete testimony of Mr. Biden at a public hearing. If you issue a new proper subpoena, now that there is a duly authorized impeachment inquiry, Mr. Biden will comply for a hearing or deposition. We will accept such a subpoena on Mr. Biden’s behalf.”

And such a subpoena would come with negotiations, as they always do. Norm Eisen in Rawstory says:

“And the coup de grâce,” Eisen continues, “Hunter is offering to negotiate new testimony or deposition. He’s put the committee in a box & criminal contempt will not be enforced by DOJ in these circumstances.”

Not only will this move derail a DOJ indictment, it may very well have derailed a successful House vote this coming week.

struggle4progress

(118,342 posts)
25. Hunter would comply with a new GOP subpoena
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 06:06 PM
Jan 2024

Jan. 12, 2024, 12:55 PM EST / Updated Jan. 12, 2024, 4:18 PM EST
By Sarah Fitzpatrick and Rebecca Shabad

... "If you issue a new proper subpoena, now that there is a duly authorized impeachment inquiry, Mr. Biden will comply for a hearing or deposition. We will accept such a subpoena on Mr. Biden’s behalf," said the letter obtained by NBC News ...

Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, argued that the subpoenas issued to the president's son have so far been "legally invalid," especially because they were issued before the House voted to authorize the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, which it did in mid-December ...

"I write to make you aware (if you are not already) that your subpoenas were and are legally invalid and cannot form a legal basis to proceed with your misdirected and impermissible contempt resolution," Lowell wrote. "And you two, of all people, should know that is the case."

Lowell noted in one of the letter's footnotes that during the Judiciary panel's markup on Wednesday, Rep. Glenn Ivey, D-Md., suggested a procedure for a hybrid process in which Republicans could hold a public deposition or hearing with alternating rounds of questions by Republicans and Democrats, as it's done in a closed-door deposition. Lowell said four Republicans voted in support of such a process ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hunter-biden-comply-new-gop-subpoena-issued-lawyers-say-rcna133696



EndlessWire

(6,565 posts)
31. They're just looking for something
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 07:10 PM
Jan 2024

to hang on Joe Biden. I did not know that they needed to impeach Joe before there would be a valid subpoena for Hunter. Interesting.

I was also disappointed on his about face, but then decided it's a game of chess that the Repubs will lose. For one thing, the Repubs seem like they don't really want to depose him. Maybe they will say yes, or maybe they will dither, preferring to stand on what they think they have. They think they have him in a corner. He might have some legal problems in there, but contempt of Congress won't be it.

Plus, if they don't issue a new subpoena, then the whole country can see that he keeps offering, but they don't ever take him up on it. So, that looks bad for them.

They don't have a shred of evidence against Joe. If Hunter goes to jail for something, it won't be because he sold his father out. They are both handling this with a lot of dignity. I am glad that he walked out on MTG and her morbid fascination with his genitalia.

I thought that Hunter looked strong that day, but my most favorite person is Jamie Raskin. These two guys together really kicked ass.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
36. First subpoena wasn't valid and Hunter offered public testimony anyways
Sun Jan 14, 2024, 05:53 PM
Jan 2024

Unfortunately the MSM failed to report that the 1st subpoena wasn't valid, so now people think Hunter is caving when he's just following the law.

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