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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:11 PM Nov 2012

Montana newspaper disciplines copy editor for adding ‘allegedly’ to AP’s 'Obama was born in Hawaii’'

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/11/20/montana-newspaper-disciplines-copy-editor-for-obama-allegedly-born-in-hawaii-line/

The Helena (MT) Independent Record has disciplined a copy editor for changing a line in an Associated Press story to read, “Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii.” A retired AP staffer who worked 28 years in the Helena bureau was one of the readers who complained about the addition of “allegedly.” He tells the paper: “That right-wing notion (that the president isn't a U.S. citizen) has been so thoroughly discredited that only Donald Trump and assorted other loonies still cling to it. Neither the AP nor – I hope – The Independent Record belongs in their company.”

An editor’s note in the Lee Enterprises-owned paper says:

Our copy desk made an error in judgment in editing the Sunday 2A Associated Press story about President Obama’s trip to Asia and his place of birth. One of the copy editors inserted the term “allegedly” born in Hawaii in the story thinking the other copy editor would catch it, he didn’t. It was a poor attempt at humor and a poor decision, but was not intended to be printed in the paper. Those responsible have been disciplined.
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Montana newspaper disciplines copy editor for adding ‘allegedly’ to AP’s 'Obama was born in Hawaii’' (Original Post) Newsjock Nov 2012 OP
Fire the editor Panasonic Nov 2012 #1
Supposedly he did it as a "joke" thinking the other copy editor would catch it. Some joke. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #5
If that's true, he might be a non-birther making fun of the birthers democrattotheend Nov 2012 #12
Well the joke will be on him if he loses his job. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #13
"Poor attempt at humor" yeah, right. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #2
It wasn't a poor attempt at humor Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #3
I was a copy editor for 13 years for outdoors magazines, RebelOne Nov 2012 #4
God. Those birther fuckbuckets have all the relentless, bone-headed persistence of... Aristus Nov 2012 #6
A badger on steroids? nt tblue37 Nov 2012 #10
Good enough! Aristus Nov 2012 #11
I like this part! Cha Nov 2012 #15
Maggots? Piranhas? Leeches? Chickens running around with their heads cut off? freshwest Nov 2012 #18
SURPRISE SURPISE ROBROX Nov 2012 #7
Since when does any story get the attention of 2 copy editors? Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #8
Disciplined?? I would have fired the editor on the spot for altering the copy kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #9
HAHA.. Eat you brains out, Orly Taitz.. if there's any cells rattling around Cha Nov 2012 #14
The GOOD news is that a former AP staffer complained, then the culprit was disciplined Hekate Nov 2012 #16
Every time I catch the Billings Gazette using "Democrat" as an adjective I'm on the phone with them. ibegurpard Nov 2012 #17
Good for you. It makes a difference. I got our local tv news station to stop ... Hekate Nov 2012 #20
... Fumesucker Nov 2012 #19

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. Supposedly he did it as a "joke" thinking the other copy editor would catch it. Some joke.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
Nov 2012

No one is laughing.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
12. If that's true, he might be a non-birther making fun of the birthers
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:09 PM
Nov 2012

Irresponsible, but not necessarily malicious.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
13. Well the joke will be on him if he loses his job.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:33 PM
Nov 2012

I would definitely consider firing him. A copy editor who changes copy to make a joke is not someone you want working at a newspaper. At the least a serious printed mea culpa with his name attached is in order.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
4. I was a copy editor for 13 years for outdoors magazines,
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:20 PM
Nov 2012

and I only corrected punctuation, spelling and grammatical errors and never anything to change the tone of the stories I read. This copy editor was definitely in the wrong.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
6. God. Those birther fuckbuckets have all the relentless, bone-headed persistence of...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:26 PM
Nov 2012

...of...I don't know! Somebody help me out here with a metaphor! Those guys are just insanely stupid!...

Cha

(297,275 posts)
15. I like this part!
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:08 PM
Nov 2012
He tells the paper: “That right-wing notion [that the president isn't a U.S. citizen] has been so thoroughly discredited that only Donald Trump and assorted other loonies still cling to it. Neither the AP nor – I hope – The Independent Record belongs in their company.
 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
7. SURPRISE SURPISE
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

This little paper has TWO copy editors!!! I guess it is time to hire a THIRD person to catch mistakes..



Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Since when does any story get the attention of 2 copy editors?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:51 PM
Nov 2012

They have 2 proofreaders because they have a lot of text that needs proofing. It's not like they need a fail-safe system here. These are news stories fer Chrissake, not SALT agreements.

The excuse doesn't meet the smell test.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. Disciplined?? I would have fired the editor on the spot for altering the copy
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

so it contained a deliberate, provable lie.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
14. HAHA.. Eat you brains out, Orly Taitz.. if there's any cells rattling around
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:03 PM
Nov 2012

in there.

Thanks Newsjock..

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
16. The GOOD news is that a former AP staffer complained, then the culprit was disciplined
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

I read this as a good news story, myself. Here we have a birther trying to slyly slip the lie in -- he gets caught -- and his boss prints the retraction/public apology.

That's one for our side, right enough.

The fact that the boss called it "a poor attempt at humor and a poor decision, but was not intended to be printed in the paper" is just a way of saving face for the paper, not a bad thing. Take note of the last sentence: "Those responsible have been disciplined." I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that chewing-out, and disciplinary actions in the workplace cover a wide range of penalties.

I'd say we're winning.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
20. Good for you. It makes a difference. I got our local tv news station to stop ...
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:00 AM
Nov 2012

... referring to the local Planned Parenthood as "an abortion clinic." This was some years ago, and one of their newscasters (a woman, Debby) just kept doing that. Once she had on a group of women who were protesters outside PP and otherwise anti-choice, and in the course of the interview said, "So you're really upset that little babies are being killed?" in this syrupy voice.

Every damned time she'd call PP an abortion clinic I'd phone the viewer comment line and leave a fairly polite message pointing out that abortions are only about 3% or 5% of what PP does, would list their other activities in detail, and so on. The only time I got really heated was that interview, and I demanded to know if Debby couldn't at least pretend to be objective in the name of good journalism.

And you know what? She stopped. And no one else has ever taken it up again.

So you keep on it. We're going to win, even if it's in small increments. The truth matters.

Hekate

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