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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:06 PM Nov 2012

Goldman Sachs CEO "Wants Americans to Work Longer"


Extremely Rich Wall Street CEO Wants Americans To Work Longer


By Pat Garofalo on Nov 20, 2012

Lloyd Blankfein — ..... CEO of Wall Street behemoth Goldman Sachs — told CBS News’ Scott Pelley that he believes the retirement age needs to be raised because “in general, entitlements have to be slowed down and contained“:

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PELLEY: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid?

BLANKFEIN: You can look at history of these things, and Social Security wasn’t devised to be a system that supported you for a 30-year retirement after a 25-year career. … So there will be things that, you know, the retirement age has to be changed, maybe some of the benefits have to be affected, maybe some of the inflation adjustments have to be revised. But in general, entitlements have to be slowed down and contained.

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BLANKFEIN: Because we can’t afford them.

Maybe working until a later age is fine for a Wall Street CEO whose net worth is $450 million. But it’s simply nonsense to assert that the retirement age needs to go up because Social Security is no longer affordable.

For starters, Social Security can pay full benefits for decades without any changes at all. (Imagine the accolades that would received if any other federal program had guaranteed funding for that stretch of time.) One simple change, raising the cap on the payroll tax, can guarantee that the program will pay nearly full benefits for three-quarters of a century. In the meantime, Social Security is statutorily barred from adding one dime to the federal deficit, so cutting it doesn’t change the nation’s deficit or debt picture.

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/20/1220051/blankfein-retirement-age/
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Goldman Sachs CEO "Wants Americans to Work Longer" (Original Post) amborin Nov 2012 OP
I am no math genius, Lindsay Nov 2012 #1
I believe he should pay a 95% tax rate ... Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #2
Right on! Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #32
Hey, Blankefein, it's you we can't afford. Scuba Nov 2012 #3
This. In one simple sentence, you've hit the target dead on. KittyWampus Nov 2012 #9
+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #11
+1000 n/t Wind Dancer Nov 2012 #18
+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #21
I saw part of the interview...make me sick ot my stomach deutsey Nov 2012 #4
"But in general, entitlements have to be slowed down and contained." OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #5
BankFiend is the Vice President of the Moat Widening Club. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #6
Another useful graph for showing how we've been stolen from: Salviati Nov 2012 #16
Ha . . . look at when our wages leveled off, but OUR productivity skyrocketed . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #19
In the 40s, 50s and 60s, organized workplaces negotiated to capture part of the increase byeya Nov 2012 #27
At what... onyourleft Nov 2012 #7
Generally people start working by age 24... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #8
Perhaps he means 25-year-career ***as a corporate executive*** JHB Nov 2012 #14
"Goldman Sachs pay out $111million in bonuses despite taking billions in bailout money " WinkyDink Nov 2012 #10
"Wants" Americans to work longer PD Turk Nov 2012 #12
They just want to get their greedy fucking hands on that money Matariki Nov 2012 #13
They want us to work longer so they continue stealing our pensions. Initech Nov 2012 #15
This fucker should be in a tumbrel hifiguy Nov 2012 #17
I saw that imperious fucker on the teevee . . . . he makes Marie Antoinette look populous. Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #20
I wonder what his Number 1 DU Groupie thinks of this. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #22
A day of physical labor. Barack_America Nov 2012 #23
they own the plantation, we just work on it. who is lloyd blankfein & why does HiPointDem Nov 2012 #24
Are we supposed to be surprised about that? gollygee Nov 2012 #25
Did he inherit all that money? Rex Nov 2012 #26
Easy to say for a jerk who has people there to wipe his ass for him Marrah_G Nov 2012 #28
... Blankfein earned a total of $54.4 million in 2006 ... struggle4progress Nov 2012 #29
Scott Pelley asking Lloyd Blankfein's opinion on Social Security BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #30
Sure, while he plays golf and smokes cigars... polichick Nov 2012 #31
When I retire younger workers can be promoted up into my position. Also younger workers cost a bit l peacebird Nov 2012 #33

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
1. I am no math genius,
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
Nov 2012

but even I can tell Blankfein's numbers don't add up.

Work for 25 years and retired for 30? So you start working at age 40 and live until you're 95?

Not in my world.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
2. I believe he should pay a 95% tax rate ...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

so I can retire at 65. Seems only fair since we bailed his ass out with Social Security trust fund money.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
5. "But in general, entitlements have to be slowed down and contained."
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

[font size="4"]The obscene salaries and bonuses and ridiculously lavish lifestyles of the 1% is what needs to be "slowed down and contained."[/font]





HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
6. BankFiend is the Vice President of the Moat Widening Club.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

How anyone cannot regard what the Kleptocracy does yearly as legalized theft is beyond me.


Salviati

(6,008 posts)
16. Another useful graph for showing how we've been stolen from:
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:53 PM
Nov 2012

and why we have the highest levels in inequality since the gilded age.

It makes me pissed off just looking at it.



http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/events/spring08/feller/

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
19. Ha . . . look at when our wages leveled off, but OUR productivity skyrocketed . . .
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:34 PM
Nov 2012

NINETEEN EIGHTY ONE.

Overlap both graphs and it kind of puts the theft in greater perspective.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
27. In the 40s, 50s and 60s, organized workplaces negotiated to capture part of the increase
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

in productivity. Uniions saw to it to ensure workers split part of their increased productivity, and the country was in pretty good shape.

Under the global or cosmopolitan system, virtually all gains in productivity go to the 1%.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
8. Generally people start working by age 24...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nov 2012

...assuming they went to college first. Or they start by age 18 if they don't go to college.

Retirement age right now is 67.

67 - 24 == 43
67 - 18 == 49

So people's careers are more likely to be 43 to 49 years long, not 25 years long, before they cash in their Social Security.

Now as far as how long people live after age 67? Average life expectancy for men overall is 75.5 years, for women 80.5 years.

75.5 - 67 == 8.5
80.5 - 67 == 13.5

So on average, people have an 11-year retirement after a 46-year career.

Okay, so now we have to factor in that people do not necessarily contribute to SS for all 45 years, as they may not work for every one of those years. In particular, women often take time off to raise their families. But even so, it looks to me like they will still have 30 years or so of input, and an average 11 years of retirement.

Of course, Blankfein is good a sleight-of-hand when it comes to numbers. Otherwise he would not be where he is, atop a profession that is riddled with fraud.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
14. Perhaps he means 25-year-career ***as a corporate executive***
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nov 2012

And that applies to everyone, doesn't it? At least, everyone worth speaking of!




(damn. Any smilies with a top hat, monocle, and raised champaign flute?)

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
12. "Wants" Americans to work longer
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:32 PM
Nov 2012

My daddy had an old saying he liked to use. "Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets full first"

I think it's high time we tell all these upper crust popinjays exactly that. Let's make it clear that nobody gives a damn about what they "want" anymore.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
13. They just want to get their greedy fucking hands on that money
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:35 PM
Nov 2012

Because Social Security has nothing to do with the national debt - except that it's been borrowed from.

There isn't a pile of money anywhere these grifters can resist.

Initech

(100,078 posts)
15. They want us to work longer so they continue stealing our pensions.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:42 PM
Nov 2012

Such a backwards world we live in when the banks rob us.

Stinky The Clown

(67,800 posts)
20. I saw that imperious fucker on the teevee . . . . he makes Marie Antoinette look populous.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

He's almost as disgusting an entitled prick as was Queen Ann.

He was sitting in a very throne like chair, his arm languidly but precisely draped just so. His body language was gag inducing.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
23. A day of physical labor.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

Then get back to me.

My response is the same for every white-collared individual who makes this argument. Walk a mile before you speak.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
24. they own the plantation, we just work on it. who is lloyd blankfein & why does
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
Nov 2012

he get to tell us what the standard retirement age will be?

oh, yeah, the banksters own everything.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. Are we supposed to be surprised about that?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

For minimum wage even, but only if the neo-liberals don't manage to eliminate the minimum wage.

Work as much as possible for as little money as possible with no benefits. And they say WE are trying to redistribute wealth.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
28. Easy to say for a jerk who has people there to wipe his ass for him
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Nov 2012

it's always these self entitled little office idiots who have never had a callous in their lives, never through out their back lifting heavy things that like to tell us all how we should be working until we are fucking dead.

Because that IS what will happen... more and more people in physically demanding jobs will have to work until they are dead.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
29. ... Blankfein earned a total of $54.4 million in 2006 ...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

... Goldman ... executives refer to unsophisticated clients as "muppets" and use a strategy of "elephant hunting" to systematically take advantage of their own clients ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein

Assuming he worked 50 60-hour weeks that year, his compensation comes to about $9000/hr. He's another of those people who thinks he's entitled to everything, and nobody else is entitled to anything

polichick

(37,152 posts)
31. Sure, while he plays golf and smokes cigars...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:42 PM
Nov 2012

When, oh when, will American serfs rise up and take these scumbags down?!

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
33. When I retire younger workers can be promoted up into my position. Also younger workers cost a bit l
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nov 2012

less so it benefits the company and the next generation of workers to let me retire.

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