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global1

(25,251 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:50 AM Nov 2012

Why Are The Repugs Afraid Of Susan Rice?.....

Really - the campaign McCain and Graham are on to discredit her - and now a group of Repugs sending a letter to PBO.

The noise that they are making to discredit her doesn't make sense - so - what is there real reason for not wanting her as Sec?

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Why Are The Repugs Afraid Of Susan Rice?..... (Original Post) global1 Nov 2012 OP
Because she's black? nt COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #1
It's worse than that... demwing Nov 2012 #5
Was Condoleeza Rice chartreuse? jberryhill Nov 2012 #9
Condi is an R. That's all that is BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #21
Nope. Worse - she was a Rethug COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #28
The want to entangle edhopper Nov 2012 #2
^^^This^^^ HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #3
I'd bet you're right--plus, Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #8
IMO, they aren't afraid of her demwing Nov 2012 #4
Yep. I detect nothing resembling "fear" coming from them. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #19
The question is - have they expressed opposition to John Kerry as Sec? AnnaLee Nov 2012 #6
In which case they are even more moronic than expected, as their actions are pushing Obama toward Mass Nov 2012 #13
She's black, she's a woman, and she's way smarter than they are. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #7
+100 demosincebirth Nov 2012 #29
Watch--they'll be doing this furiouly for evey new appointee librechik Nov 2012 #10
Lawrence O'Donnell says because they want John Kerry for SOS We People Nov 2012 #11
See above. O'Donnell is wrong as is Limbaugh who is pushing the same idea. Mass Nov 2012 #14
Thanks, you're right - have been a little hit-or-miss catching up w/this issue for a few days. n/t We People Nov 2012 #17
She's not a Republican Aerows Nov 2012 #12
IMHO ReRe Nov 2012 #15
She's "uppity" Odin2005 Nov 2012 #16
They're not afraid of her. They are trying to gin up a made up scandal against Obama. Mass Nov 2012 #18
Simple - she's INTELLIGENT! HopeHoops Nov 2012 #20
Because they lost the mantle of foreign policy to Obama. He applegrove Nov 2012 #22
This isn't about her specifically. Skidmore Nov 2012 #23
Could be they don't like powerful, effective women in government. MineralMan Nov 2012 #24
Well, one thing is true AnnaLee Nov 2012 #25
I don't think they're afraid of her necessarily, elleng Nov 2012 #26
From he Boston Globe notadmblnd Nov 2012 #27
Best answer to why Repubs don't want Rice as Secretary of State flying-skeleton Nov 2012 #30

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
21. Condi is an R. That's all that is
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

necessary for any person of any color to be above reproach - even when they shouldn't be.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
2. The want to entangle
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:01 AM
Nov 2012

Obama in a scandal as quickly as possible to negate any momentum he might have from the election.
Right now Benghazi is all they have and using it to defeat Obama's SOS pick would be high profile and a big victory.
It's all just political bullshit.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. I'd bet you're right--plus,
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:05 AM
Nov 2012

having failed to stop Obama's electoral victory, this gives them a crack at another black person. The wingnuts would like that. Kind of like a consolation prize for the racists.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
4. IMO, they aren't afraid of her
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:03 AM
Nov 2012

they are in a panic because they lost when they thought they would win, they need a distraction to make America forget how badly they suck, so they are striking out at a convenient target.

Rice is female, not white, well educated, and a Dem. I am not surprised at all that they want to discredit her and, by proxy, the Pres.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
19. Yep. I detect nothing resembling "fear" coming from them.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

As someone pointed out in another thread last night, this is not only about their trying to discredit the President. They also are attempting to dictate his cabinet and other political appointee choices. They are not at all afraid of Rice.

AnnaLee

(1,040 posts)
6. The question is - have they expressed opposition to John Kerry as Sec?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:04 AM
Nov 2012

Some have suggested that it might be as simple as wanting John Kerry to vacate his Senate seat and expecting Brown to win it.

It's hard to tell though when you are looking at some pretty nutty people at times.

I can't figure out how but I tend to think they want to find something to try to impeach the President with. Maybe they are thinking if they can get an investigation going that allows them into the Executive's britches, they can search and search and search until they find something. Even if they have to take that something out of context (remember the election).

They seem nuts to me but the people who keep electing them seem nuts to me also.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
13. In which case they are even more moronic than expected, as their actions are pushing Obama toward
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:40 AM
Nov 2012

Rice if he was not yet there.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
7. She's black, she's a woman, and she's way smarter than they are.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:04 AM
Nov 2012

In their minds that's the trifecta of their fears.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
10. Watch--they'll be doing this furiouly for evey new appointee
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:08 AM
Nov 2012

The work of destroying the Obama administration in every sense of the word won't ever stop. Even after we have a new president. The Modern Repubs have no positive programs, so the only thing they do is rat fuck the other side as much as possible.

We People

(619 posts)
11. Lawrence O'Donnell says because they want John Kerry for SOS
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:08 AM
Nov 2012

Said it on his show last week.

It's probably being done for at least a triple payoff:
- Whip up a case for impeachment of PBO
- Another gopper into the Senate
- Dog whistles to the racists in the base

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. She's not a Republican
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:16 AM
Nov 2012

And they want John Kerry for the job so Scott Brown has another shot at a Senate seat.

But really, "She's not a Republican" is pretty much reason enough.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
15. IMHO
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

I think the main reason is because they (the Republicons') want John Kerry to be SOS, so it will open up his seat in the Senate, thus giving the right wing a chance to eventually capture his seat, if not with a full-fledged winger, then by a right leaning Democrat. It's definitely not because she isn't qualified. Or because she is a black woman. It may also have something to do with the fact that they are continuing on with the agenda they have held thusfar... to refuse anything that POB proposes to make him look like a failed president.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
18. They're not afraid of her. They are trying to gin up a made up scandal against Obama.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

and, given that Rice was the one reading the talking points, they go after her.

Just a bunch of morons thinking they have the next Watergate.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
22. Because they lost the mantle of foreign policy to Obama. He
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

and Hillary have done a fantastic job. It is one of the reasons the GOP lost the election. McCain and the GOP want to sully Democrats foreign policy bonafides and the only way to do that is to get a substandard SOS. Rice would make an excellent one. So they attack her.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
23. This isn't about her specifically.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

First, it is about revenge for the President winning another term. Second, it is about pushing anyone out for SoS except Kerry, the other candidate. Kerry becoming SoS means that it will be easier to keep gridlock.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. Could be they don't like powerful, effective women in government.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

That thought occurred to me.

Oh, yes...she's also not white, I hear.

AnnaLee

(1,040 posts)
25. Well, one thing is true
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

They have the media and Democratic base driving themselves nuts over something that did not happen.

elleng

(130,945 posts)
26. I don't think they're afraid of her necessarily,
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

but I do think they'd prefer to see PreO appoint John Kerry and give repugs a shot at his seat in Mass.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
27. From he Boston Globe
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:57 PM
Nov 2012

In her sure-footed ascent of the foreign-policy ladder, Rice has rarely shrunk from a fight. But now that she appears poised to claim the top rung — White House aides say she is President Obama’s favored candidate for secretary of state — this sharp-tongued, self-confident diplomat finds herself in the middle of a feud in which she is largely a bystander.


‘‘Susan had a reputation, fairly or not, as someone who could run a little hot and shoot from the hip,’’ said John Norris, a foreign-policy specialist at the Center for American Progress. ‘‘If someone had told me that the biggest knock on her was going to be that she too slavishly followed the talking points on Benghazi, I would have been shocked.’’

Rice’s record


At the UN, and in posts in the Clinton White House, Rice, who turned 48 on Saturday, has earned a reputation as a blunt advocate, relentless on issues like pressuring the regime in Sudan or intervening in Libya to prevent a slaughter by Moammar Khadafy.

She was a Rhodes scholar, has degrees from Stanford and Oxford, a Rolodex of contacts, and a relationship with Obama sealed during his 2008 campaign. So her ascension to lead the State Department would be less a blow for diversity — she would, after all, be the second black woman named Rice to hold the job — than the natural capstone to a fast-track career.
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/11/18/susan-rice-was-pinch-hitting-when-she-spoke-about-benghazi-days-after-attack/WEYAmPBDc97vFY3OZmIOzK/story.html

flying-skeleton

(697 posts)
30. Best answer to why Repubs don't want Rice as Secretary of State
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:45 PM
Nov 2012

The real reason for not wanting her as Sec?

Remember the story:

A scorpion wanted to cross the river but did not know how to swim and would drown if it tried. He saw a croc nearby and asked if he could get a lift on it's back. The croc refused, saying that the scorpion would sting him. The scorpion insisted it would not, reasoning that if it did, they both would die (croc from the sting and the scorpion from drowning). The croc thought about it and agreed to give the scorpion a lift across the river. Half way across the river, the scorpion stung the croc. As the croc was dying, it asked the scorpion why it stung him, now dooming them both to certain death? The scorpion replied, "It's in my nature" !!

So to answer your question why the Repugs did not want Rice as Sec:

Because by nature, the Repugs are Assholes !! Always were and always will be !!

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