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The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday, Robertson complained. Its been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and its just a beautiful thing.He added: Atheists dont like our happiness. They dont want you to be happy. They want you to be miserable. Theyre miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/robertson-atheists-miserable-and-trying-to-steal-christmas-like-the-grinch/
For someone who professes to be so happy he sure complains a lot.
valerief
(53,235 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Would visit Robertson... what a hateful man!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)All of them except one high school friend. He can be a dick.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)It's a holiday about peace, love & togetherness.
RC
(25,592 posts)It's all about them and their particular beliefs.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)I enjoy the lights and the parties and buying gifts for people and the food and the music and all the other holiday bling. I also sing in two church choirs. I don't buy the magic stuff but I love the music. And I am not even slightly miserable.
Stop projecting, Pat, you horrid old troll. You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Pagan tradition? And, Robertson is cool with this?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)If Jesus was real, he probably would have been born in the Spring, not on Dec. 25, but the early Christians co-opted the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, which probably arose from a far older celebration of the return of light following the winter solstice. Christmas trees are a very old Germanic pagan tradition that didn't become widely popular among Christians until the 19th century. Christmas absorbs a whole bunch of traditions. Maybe that's why it's fun, even if you aren't a believer.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Jehovah's Witnesses forbid the celebration of Christmas altogether.
And the modern American Christmas is essentially a cultural and commercial holiday, not a religious one.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)While only less then 1% of the population is Christian, the rest are Shinto~Buddhist, and still Celebrate Kurisumasu as a romantic holiday much like we do Valentines day. Gifts are exchanged, dinners are served to loved ones.. for some reason the Japanese adopted Colonel Saunders image as a Japanese Santa Claus. I suspect that KFC pushed for this with the holiday packages.
The best part about "kurisumasu" is the cake!!
The holiday itself is really minor compared to the big holiday which is New Years. Many people still work on Kurisumasu, but its like here in that people buy trees, and decorate and buy gifts.
In Japanese they say: Meri Kurisumasu to Yoi Otoshi yo! (Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!)
louis-t
(23,297 posts)Colonel Sanders in a red suit. Wow!
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)As the Holiday approaches..
Aristus
(66,467 posts)'Faza Kurisumasu'.
Father Christmas...
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Lots of totemo kawaii words in Japanese, ne!
richmwill
(1,326 posts)"You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology."
You totally nailed it. The miserable old man can't believe that his fantasy-world of a nation full of Christian Conservatives is fading away.
losangeleslibker
(66 posts)But I was born Catholic/Jewish. I still love celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah every year. Just because I don't believe in the concept of religion doesn't mean I'm miserable. My whole family isn't really that religious but we still have fun during the holidays. My dad's an agnostic but a republican, go figure.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)My religious holy day is Yule, the Winter Solstice, but Christmas is the family/social holiday and I freakin' love it. Pat, shut up.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)and I am far from miserable. In fact, I am far happier than the miserable Pat Robertson.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Robertson gets to be happy one day a year.
Who's jealous of who again?
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,197 posts)Geez, it seems the War on Christmas starts earlier and earlier each year...
csziggy
(34,138 posts)And at the checkout I was telling my husband I was not ready to be in the holiday spirit. The nice checker who came over to bag our groceries (my husband had started to and she had no customers) asked me what I had against holidays. I told her because I was ready to WIN the war on Christmas. She totally cracked up and we all had a good laugh.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)We don't have a garage and the house only has a couple of bedrooms.
I don't see listing it on EBay (shipping nightmare) and I couldn't haul it to St. Vincent dePaul.
Just the ox and the donkey would need more fodder than we have available, not to mention the sheep!
Do you have to feed angels?
All in all, I think I'll just have to leave it be this year.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,587 posts)Where do you think the term "Angel Food Cake" comes from?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,197 posts)They're no trouble, though, and since millions of them can fit on the head of a pin, I would think a taco or two should last through the holidays.
They take little itty-bitty sips of my beer all the time, but since the sips are so small, I never notice anything missing. There's the occasional thump! of a drunk angel bouncing into a wall, but it's never been a problem.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)If it weren't for the tireless heroism of Pat Robertson, Xmas (TM) would be kinda forgotten like Armistice Day, or worse, it could get all confusing like those Muslim Holidays that seem to start spontaneously and only end when another one starts.
larocks4552s
(26 posts)you utter douchebag and hypocrite.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Most of us recognize its more of a cultural holiday than a religious holiday and the Jesus stuff associated with it doesn't do us any harm.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)See, I was miserable and didn't want to be happy, but then I found what would really make me happy: stealing your holiday. Let the good times roll!
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Why are these neanderthals even relevant in the 21st century?
n/t
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Of course there are exceptions.
Marr
(20,317 posts)what goes around comes around.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I also don't care if other people want to celebrate it. (Just don't expect me to participate.)
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)If "Christians" are so happy, why are they so mean, hateful, and angry?
Smilo
(1,944 posts)Its been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and its just a beautiful thing.
So Pat, when did you start to approve of Christmas becoming materialization of a religious holiday?
LeftishBrit
(41,212 posts)In fact, most atheists, who live in countries that celebrate Christmas, celebrate it themselves. It's a big secular holiday, not just a religious one.
The ONLY person who ever seriously tried to abolish the celebration of Christmas was Oliver Cromwell - and he was a fundie Puritan, not that dissimilar to Pat Robertson's bunch! He regarded Christmas, doubtless correctly, as closely based on a Pagan festival.
And it tends, in my observation, to be Puritanical types, not atheists, who disapprove of merriment and enjoying oneself too much.
losangeleslibker
(66 posts)But I don't try to force my beliefs on others. One of my best friends is a religious Baptist but I respect him and he respects me. These religious nutcases like Robertson think that us unreligious people are out to cause chaos and rain on Christians' parades. I don't give a shit what you believe in as long as you don't force it upon me. I'm sure many other people are like me too.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Has he never spoken to an atheist about Christmas? We atheists enjoy the spirit of giving and being with family during the holidays.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)The more he does that, the more money they send him. You see, he's being perfectly rational.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)I swear I think you could make a mint selling tree ornaments depicting liberals being tortured in hell.
louslobbs
(3,238 posts)Lou
aquart
(69,014 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Most atheists I know enjoy the festivities that come with the season.
I suspect many of us also question the sincerity of many believers considering how incredibly commercialized the baby Jesus' birthday has become. It ain't us heathens fueling that!
Julie
kydo
(2,679 posts)dude get with the times. everyone knows already the anti christmas rant was coming happens every year just like black friday. I just figured he'd take the same cue from big retail and open before black friday. He so should have been bitching and moaning in oct ... what a loser!
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)Never had a problem with Christmas, but I just get a kick out people who get unhinged becasue I wish them "Happy Holidays". Apparently for some Christians that's worse than saying "Fuck You".
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)That some atheist will be peeping in our windows and if they see that we celebrate Christmas, they and their army will come barging into our house, dragging us out by our hair and setting our tree and misteltoe on fire. Then, they'll tie us up on a stake and we'll be burned for our beliefs. We Christians are so persecuted.
Oh wait, that was pagan history. Sorry.
tjwash
(8,219 posts)And that's saying something
AnnaLee
(1,041 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)They're just not overly fond of the story of that miraculous virgin birth of a half human godling with a star that nobody else on the planet noticed and the heavenly choir.
After all, the miserable bastards on Robertson's side are trying to get all the fun stuff dispensed with so Christians will concentrate on the miracle birth story to the exclusion of all the other Christmas trappings.
We atheists will continue to have sparkly trees and Santa will bring the kiddies their presents in our houses and the family will get a big, fancy dinner and everybody will go to bed tired and very happy.
We wouldn't trade places with Robertson's version of miserable Christian for anything.
Initech
(100,105 posts)If you may notice we atheists couldn't give less of a shit about what stores use what greetings with customers during the holiday season.
lob1
(3,820 posts)They do this every year to raise money.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Bet he really doesn't believe half the crap he pukes up so that he might .
Greed is his god.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The most miserable, back-stabbing, gossiping, lying pieces of shit I've ever known in my life were devout Christians. Went to church every Sunday and absolved themselves of all wrongdoing.
spanone
(135,887 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,819 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,819 posts). . . they favored reopening this thread. I am happy to do so.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Initech
(100,105 posts)I'll reply by singing those incredibly lame holiday ad parodies of Christmas songs. Take that!