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yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:08 PM Nov 2012

Pat Robertson: Miserable Atheists trying to steal Christmas

“The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday,” Robertson complained. “It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”


He added: “Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy. They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/robertson-atheists-miserable-and-trying-to-steal-christmas-like-the-grinch/



For someone who professes to be so happy he sure complains a lot.
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Pat Robertson: Miserable Atheists trying to steal Christmas (Original Post) yellowcanine Nov 2012 OP
Jesus H., what a hemorrhoid that asshole is. nt valerief Nov 2012 #1
I wish the Grinch AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #2
Atheists/Agnostics I know have Christmas trees and say, 'Merry Christmas.' onehandle Nov 2012 #3
Yup - some even send Xmas cards Care Acutely Nov 2012 #7
Not for some Christians, it ain't. RC Nov 2012 #32
This agnostic loves Christmas. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #4
I thought that Christmas trees was part of a AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #9
Much of what we do at Christmas is not actually Christian. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #15
Exactly. Some Christian groups do not allows trees, etc. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #20
"Kurisumasu" in Japan is an entirely different thing... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #35
Thanks for the post. I learned something new! louis-t Nov 2012 #49
I intend to do a whole posting soon about Kurisumasu in Japan AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #52
I love Santa Claus's Japanese name. Aristus Nov 2012 #51
^^ hontou ne! (really!) AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #53
You are so right... richmwill Nov 2012 #12
I'm an agnostic losangeleslibker Nov 2012 #40
Heck, this Wiccan loves Christmas LibertyLover Nov 2012 #64
I'm an atheist Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #5
We get to be happy year-round LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #41
LOL! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #45
Robertson launches pre-emptive strike in annual War on Christmas! Buns_of_Fire Nov 2012 #6
The other day in the supermarket they had Christmas music on csziggy Nov 2012 #54
Sounds like he's been lighting up something other than trees...n/t deutsey Nov 2012 #8
Fuck Robertson. n/t geardaddy Nov 2012 #10
I'd consider stealing Christmas but I don't know where I'd put it. Shrike47 Nov 2012 #11
Do you have to feed angels?? Chiyo-chichi Nov 2012 #13
If you steal Christmas, then yes, the angels become your responsibility. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2012 #30
Watch out, dontcha know, Xmas is fragile! Spike89 Nov 2012 #37
pot meet kettle, pat larocks4552s Nov 2012 #14
I know plenty of atheists and agnostics who celebrate Christmas, I'm one of them. phleshdef Nov 2012 #16
Can't people wait until at least after Thanksgiving to proclaim there's a war on Christmas ? n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #17
Suck it, Pat. I totally stole your holiday. DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #18
heh Marrah_G Nov 2012 #21
Damn Christians who stole Yule at the point of a sword! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #19
+1 DinahMoeHum Nov 2012 #27
I like Christmas because it is the one day when even most dickheads try to be human. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #22
Pagans: "Miserable Christians trying to steal Saturnalia". Marr Nov 2012 #23
+1 DinahMoeHum Nov 2012 #26
Pffft. I'm an atheist and I ignore Christmas. MadrasT Nov 2012 #24
You're going to burn in hell soon enough Pat. You hypocritical Sack of Shit. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #25
He should be sufficiently happy with his TAX-FREE funds. Why isn't that enough? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #28
Really, Pat. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #29
“It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, Smilo Nov 2012 #31
Which atheists ever stopped anyone from celebrating Christmas if they wish to? LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #33
I'm agnostic losangeleslibker Nov 2012 #44
What is wrong with this man? RebelOne Nov 2012 #34
He's just telling his audience what they want to hear. Mariana Nov 2012 #66
Time to whip up the anual Holliday Hatefest. Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #36
LOL, look who's accusing someone else of stealing. louslobbs Nov 2012 #38
The solution would be to send him money? aquart Nov 2012 #39
That guy is so clueless! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #42
Pat your late didn't you get the meme talking points for stealing christmas is now oct 31 kydo Nov 2012 #43
Boo hoo ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #46
"They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable." Um, Pat? Project much? Scuba Nov 2012 #47
I'm afraid every Christmas morning Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #48
Pat Robertson..the embarrassing racist grampa of the RR tjwash Nov 2012 #50
Atheists enjoy everyone's holidays as their own. nm. AnnaLee Nov 2012 #55
Miserable atheists love Yule and lights and Santa Claus Warpy Nov 2012 #56
I think the fundies are the really miserable ones. Initech Nov 2012 #57
It's all a scam and lying Pat is the scammer. lob1 Nov 2012 #58
Miserable little shit stirring creature. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #59
Oh, please. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #60
dipshit. spanone Nov 2012 #61
Religion Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #62
I posted in the host group to ask the opinion of as many hosts as cared to reply. Overwhelmingly . . Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #63
I didn't steal Christmas. I just downloaded it illegally. n/t lapislzi Nov 2012 #65
Next time some asshole complains about a war on Christmas... Initech Nov 2012 #67

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Atheists/Agnostics I know have Christmas trees and say, 'Merry Christmas.'
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

All of them except one high school friend. He can be a dick.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
4. This agnostic loves Christmas.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:14 PM
Nov 2012

I enjoy the lights and the parties and buying gifts for people and the food and the music and all the other holiday bling. I also sing in two church choirs. I don't buy the magic stuff but I love the music. And I am not even slightly miserable.

Stop projecting, Pat, you horrid old troll. You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
15. Much of what we do at Christmas is not actually Christian.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

If Jesus was real, he probably would have been born in the Spring, not on Dec. 25, but the early Christians co-opted the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, which probably arose from a far older celebration of the return of light following the winter solstice. Christmas trees are a very old Germanic pagan tradition that didn't become widely popular among Christians until the 19th century. Christmas absorbs a whole bunch of traditions. Maybe that's why it's fun, even if you aren't a believer.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
20. Exactly. Some Christian groups do not allows trees, etc.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

Jehovah's Witnesses forbid the celebration of Christmas altogether.

And the modern American Christmas is essentially a cultural and commercial holiday, not a religious one.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
35. "Kurisumasu" in Japan is an entirely different thing...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

While only less then 1% of the population is Christian, the rest are Shinto~Buddhist, and still Celebrate Kurisumasu as a romantic holiday much like we do Valentines day. Gifts are exchanged, dinners are served to loved ones.. for some reason the Japanese adopted Colonel Saunders image as a Japanese Santa Claus. I suspect that KFC pushed for this with the holiday packages.



The best part about "kurisumasu" is the cake!!



The holiday itself is really minor compared to the big holiday which is New Years. Many people still work on Kurisumasu, but its like here in that people buy trees, and decorate and buy gifts.




In Japanese they say: Meri Kurisumasu to Yoi Otoshi yo! (Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!)

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
12. You are so right...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:24 PM
Nov 2012

"You're miserable because you realize that many millions of people think you and your hateful "religion" are irrelevant, and are increasingly rejecting your nasty church and your perverse theology."

You totally nailed it. The miserable old man can't believe that his fantasy-world of a nation full of Christian Conservatives is fading away.

losangeleslibker

(66 posts)
40. I'm an agnostic
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:56 PM
Nov 2012

But I was born Catholic/Jewish. I still love celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah every year. Just because I don't believe in the concept of religion doesn't mean I'm miserable. My whole family isn't really that religious but we still have fun during the holidays. My dad's an agnostic but a republican, go figure.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
64. Heck, this Wiccan loves Christmas
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 PM
Nov 2012

My religious holy day is Yule, the Winter Solstice, but Christmas is the family/social holiday and I freakin' love it. Pat, shut up.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
6. Robertson launches pre-emptive strike in annual War on Christmas!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

Geez, it seems the War on Christmas starts earlier and earlier each year...

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
54. The other day in the supermarket they had Christmas music on
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

And at the checkout I was telling my husband I was not ready to be in the holiday spirit. The nice checker who came over to bag our groceries (my husband had started to and she had no customers) asked me what I had against holidays. I told her because I was ready to WIN the war on Christmas. She totally cracked up and we all had a good laugh.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
11. I'd consider stealing Christmas but I don't know where I'd put it.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

We don't have a garage and the house only has a couple of bedrooms.

I don't see listing it on EBay (shipping nightmare) and I couldn't haul it to St. Vincent dePaul.

Just the ox and the donkey would need more fodder than we have available, not to mention the sheep!

Do you have to feed angels?

All in all, I think I'll just have to leave it be this year.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
30. If you steal Christmas, then yes, the angels become your responsibility.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:46 PM
Nov 2012

They're no trouble, though, and since millions of them can fit on the head of a pin, I would think a taco or two should last through the holidays.

They take little itty-bitty sips of my beer all the time, but since the sips are so small, I never notice anything missing. There's the occasional thump! of a drunk angel bouncing into a wall, but it's never been a problem.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
37. Watch out, dontcha know, Xmas is fragile!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

If it weren't for the tireless heroism of Pat Robertson, Xmas (TM) would be kinda forgotten like Armistice Day, or worse, it could get all confusing like those Muslim Holidays that seem to start spontaneously and only end when another one starts.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
16. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics who celebrate Christmas, I'm one of them.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

Most of us recognize its more of a cultural holiday than a religious holiday and the Jesus stuff associated with it doesn't do us any harm.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
18. Suck it, Pat. I totally stole your holiday.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

See, I was miserable and didn't want to be happy, but then I found what would really make me happy: stealing your holiday. Let the good times roll!

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. Damn Christians who stole Yule at the point of a sword!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

Why are these neanderthals even relevant in the 21st century?

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
22. I like Christmas because it is the one day when even most dickheads try to be human.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

Of course there are exceptions.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
24. Pffft. I'm an atheist and I ignore Christmas.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:39 PM
Nov 2012

I also don't care if other people want to celebrate it. (Just don't expect me to participate.)

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
31. “It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together,
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

“It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”

So Pat, when did you start to approve of Christmas becoming materialization of a religious holiday?

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
33. Which atheists ever stopped anyone from celebrating Christmas if they wish to?
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:51 PM
Nov 2012

In fact, most atheists, who live in countries that celebrate Christmas, celebrate it themselves. It's a big secular holiday, not just a religious one.

The ONLY person who ever seriously tried to abolish the celebration of Christmas was Oliver Cromwell - and he was a fundie Puritan, not that dissimilar to Pat Robertson's bunch! He regarded Christmas, doubtless correctly, as closely based on a Pagan festival.

And it tends, in my observation, to be Puritanical types, not atheists, who disapprove of merriment and enjoying oneself too much.

losangeleslibker

(66 posts)
44. I'm agnostic
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

But I don't try to force my beliefs on others. One of my best friends is a religious Baptist but I respect him and he respects me. These religious nutcases like Robertson think that us unreligious people are out to cause chaos and rain on Christians' parades. I don't give a shit what you believe in as long as you don't force it upon me. I'm sure many other people are like me too.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
34. What is wrong with this man?
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nov 2012

Has he never spoken to an atheist about Christmas? We atheists enjoy the spirit of giving and being with family during the holidays.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
66. He's just telling his audience what they want to hear.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:02 PM
Nov 2012

The more he does that, the more money they send him. You see, he's being perfectly rational.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
36. Time to whip up the anual Holliday Hatefest.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

I swear I think you could make a mint selling tree ornaments depicting liberals being tortured in hell.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
42. That guy is so clueless!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:00 PM
Nov 2012

Most atheists I know enjoy the festivities that come with the season.

I suspect many of us also question the sincerity of many believers considering how incredibly commercialized the baby Jesus' birthday has become. It ain't us heathens fueling that!

Julie

kydo

(2,679 posts)
43. Pat your late didn't you get the meme talking points for stealing christmas is now oct 31
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Nov 2012

dude get with the times. everyone knows already the anti christmas rant was coming happens every year just like black friday. I just figured he'd take the same cue from big retail and open before black friday. He so should have been bitching and moaning in oct ... what a loser!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,049 posts)
46. Boo hoo
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:10 PM
Nov 2012

Never had a problem with Christmas, but I just get a kick out people who get unhinged becasue I wish them "Happy Holidays". Apparently for some Christians that's worse than saying "Fuck You".

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
48. I'm afraid every Christmas morning
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

That some atheist will be peeping in our windows and if they see that we celebrate Christmas, they and their army will come barging into our house, dragging us out by our hair and setting our tree and misteltoe on fire. Then, they'll tie us up on a stake and we'll be burned for our beliefs. We Christians are so persecuted.

Oh wait, that was pagan history. Sorry.

Warpy

(111,359 posts)
56. Miserable atheists love Yule and lights and Santa Claus
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

They're just not overly fond of the story of that miraculous virgin birth of a half human godling with a star that nobody else on the planet noticed and the heavenly choir.

After all, the miserable bastards on Robertson's side are trying to get all the fun stuff dispensed with so Christians will concentrate on the miracle birth story to the exclusion of all the other Christmas trappings.

We atheists will continue to have sparkly trees and Santa will bring the kiddies their presents in our houses and the family will get a big, fancy dinner and everybody will go to bed tired and very happy.

We wouldn't trade places with Robertson's version of miserable Christian for anything.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
57. I think the fundies are the really miserable ones.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

If you may notice we atheists couldn't give less of a shit about what stores use what greetings with customers during the holiday season.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
59. Miserable little shit stirring creature.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Nov 2012

Bet he really doesn't believe half the crap he pukes up so that he might .


Greed is his god.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
60. Oh, please.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:20 PM
Nov 2012

The most miserable, back-stabbing, gossiping, lying pieces of shit I've ever known in my life were devout Christians. Went to church every Sunday and absolved themselves of all wrongdoing.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
63. I posted in the host group to ask the opinion of as many hosts as cared to reply. Overwhelmingly . .
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:00 PM
Nov 2012

. . . they favored reopening this thread. I am happy to do so.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
67. Next time some asshole complains about a war on Christmas...
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:06 AM
Nov 2012

I'll reply by singing those incredibly lame holiday ad parodies of Christmas songs. Take that!

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