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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:24 PM Nov 2012

UN Drug Watchdog warns against marijuana legalization/Mexico says Re-Legalize

http://www.thedailychronic.net/2012/13303/un-drug-watchdog-concerned-with-marijuana-legalization-votes/

The INCB is a quasi-judicial body charged with monitoring compliance with the Single Convention and associated treaties. It hectors governments that step outside its interpretation of what the treaties allow, although in practical terms, its ability to enforce its will is mainly rhetorical. INCB criticism of Australia and Canada over the establishment of safe injection sites, for example, has not moved those governments to end the practice, nor has its criticism of Bolivia over allowing coca cultivation resulted in a shift of policy in Bolivia.

(Raymond) Yans (president of the INCB) was inspired to speak out by the victories of Amendment 64 in Colorado and Initiative 502 in Washington state, both of which envisage legal, state-regulated commercial marijuana cultivation and distribution regimes and both of which will result in the possession of small amounts by adults being legal by early next year. The INCB also alluded to the votes in the Michigan cities of Detroit and Flint to legalize the possession of up to an ounce by adults on private property.

“These developments are in violation of the international drug control treaties, and pose a great threat to public health and the well-being of society far beyond those states,” Yans said in a Thursday statement. “Legalization of cannabis within these states would send wrong and confusing signals to youth and society in general, giving the false impression that drug abuse might be considered normal and even, most disturbingly, safe. Such a development could result in the expansion of drug abuse, especially among young people, and we must remember that all young people have a right to be protected from drug abuse and drug dependency.”

Yans also noted that “for the international drug control system to function effectively, to achieve its aim of ensuring availability of drugs for medical purposes while preventing their abuse, the conventions must be universally adhered to and implemented by all states.” He called on the US government “to take the necessary measures to ensure full compliance with the international drug control treaties within the entire territory of the United States, in order to protect the health and well-being of its citizens.”


Meanwhile...

A group of Latin American leaders declared Monday that votes by two U.S. states to legalize marijuana have important implications for efforts to quash drug smuggling, offering the first government reaction from a region increasingly frustrated with the U.S.-backed war on drugs.

The declaration by the leaders of Mexico, Belize, Honduras and Costa Rica did not explicitly say they were considering weakening their governments' efforts against marijuana smuggling, but it strongly implied the votes last week in Colorado and Washington would make enforcement of marijuana bans more difficult.

The four called for the Organization of American States to study the impact of the Colorado and Washington votes and said the United Nations' General Assembly should hold a special session on the prohibition of drugs by 2015 at the latest.

Last week, the most influential adviser to Mexico's president-elect, who takes office Dec. 1, questioned how the country will enforce a ban on growing and smuggling a drug that is now legal under some U.S. state laws. The Obama administration has yet to make clear how strongly it will enforce a federal ban on marijuana that is not affected by the Colorado and Washington votes.


and...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-says-marijuana-legalization-in-us-could-change-anti-drug-strategies/2012/11/08/7e6d45ba-29ca-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html

MEXICO CITY — The decision by voters in Colorado and Washington state to legalize the recreational use of marijuana has left Mexican President-elect Enrique Peña Nieto and his team scrambling to reformulate their anti-drug strategies in light of what one senior aide said was a referendum that “changes the rules of the game.”

It is too early to know what Mexico’s response to the successful ballot measures will be, but a top aide said Peña Nieto and members of his incoming administration will discuss the issue with President Obama and congressional leaders in Washington this month. The legalization votes, however, are expected to spark a broad debate in Mexico about the direction and costs of the U.S.-backed drug war here.

Mexico spends billions of dollars each year confronting violent trafficking organizations that threaten the security of the country but whose main market is the United States, the largest consumer of drugs in the world.

With Washington’s urging and support, Mexican soldiers roam the mountains burning clandestine plantations filled with marijuana destined for the United States. Mexico’s police and military last year seized almost as much marijuana as did U.S. agents working the Southwest border region.


and...

Uruguay lawmakers consider legalization of marijuana with goal of outselling pot dealers

Uruguay came one step closer to turning the government into the country’s leading pot dealer on Thursday, as lawmakers formally introduced to Congress a framework for regulating the production, sale and consumption of marijuana.

The proposal is much more liberal than what Uruguay’s government initially proposed months ago, when President Jose Mujica said only the government would be allowed to sell pot.

The draft law would instead create a National Cannabis Institute with the power to license individuals and companies to produce and sell marijuana for recreational, medicinal or industrial uses. It would foster marijuana growing clubs to provide the weed to their members. And most significantly, it would allow anyone to grow a limited amount of marijuana in their own homes, and possess marijuana for their own consumption.

“The thrust is the same, to create state-controlled markets. This provides the legal framework,” Colette Youngers, a drug policy expert at the Washington Office on Latin America who came to Montevideo to advise lawmakers and others drafting the proposal, told The Associated Press. “The main difference is that they have incorporated the idea of cultivation for personal use, and also the cannabis clubs, which was not in the initial proposal.”


yet...

Talk about irony, eh? The very same day American voters in two states legalize, the Stephen Harper government in Canada brought into force tough new mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana.

As Washington and Colorado both on Tuesday approved measures loosening their pot laws, drug measures in the Conservative government's Safe Streets and Communities Act, passed last spring, came into full force in Canada, reports Bruce Cheadle of The Canadian Press.

Canada's new marijuana law dictates a mandatory six-month jail term for growing as few as six cannabis plants -- which is twice the mandatory minimum for luring a child to watch pornography or exposing oneself on a children's playground.


while only one day before...

Canadians call for marijuana referendum after two U.S. states legalize it

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/07/canadians-call-for-marijuana-referendum-after-two-u-s-states-legalize-it/

Colorado and Washington voters - you started changing the world!

In April 2011, former Mexican President Vicente Fox sat before an audience at the University of Colorado at Boulder and in his baritone voice and frank tone urged Americans to legalize marijuana. His thrust: it could help enervate Mexico’s violent drug cartels. “The drug consumer in the U.S. yields billions of dollars, money that goes back to Mexico to bribe police and money that buys guns,” Fox said. “So when you question yourselves about what is going on in Mexico, it depends very much on what happens in this nation.”

At the time, many pundits warned that legalization was a nonstarter. But on Tuesday, voters in Colorado and Washington state did exactly what Fox called for: they approved landmark amendments to legalize, regulate and tax marijuana.

As supporters in Colorado jumped up and down, shouting “64, 64” after the amendment’s ballot number, the seismic implications of the reforms began to be slowly digested by activists across the globe, especially in drug-war-torn Mexico. “It was very emotional,” says Jorge Hernández, president of the Collective for an Integral Drug Policy, which is pushing for legalization in Mexico. “Now we are not like madmen in the desert. This transforms the debate.” That’s because the U.S. referendums signal the first time voters have approved the full legalization of marijuana anywhere on the planet, giving advocates from Mexico to Moscow bona fide cases to cite and follow. Even the famous cannabis coffee shops of Amsterdam exist only through an ambiguous policy of toleration often referred to as decriminalization, something Portugal has pursued as well. A 2009 Mexican law also decriminalized possession of small amounts of cannabis and other drugs, but production and selling has been left in the hands of bloodthirsty traffickers.

http://world.time.com/2012/11/08/from-mexico-to-moscow-the-world-turns-on-to-u-s-marijuana-legalization/#ixzz2CWMK5Dsf

The only age group in the U.S. that does not support marijuana legalization is the over 65 group. EVERY other age group, from 18 to 64, supports legalization.

The easiest way to deal with this issue in regard to the U.N. Single Convention on Drugs is to remove cannabis from the CSA, the Controlled Substances list that consists of "schedules" for various substances.

Let the FDA deal with cannabis law in the U.S. and let other countries determine their own law concerning cannabis.

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UN Drug Watchdog warns against marijuana legalization/Mexico says Re-Legalize (Original Post) RainDog Nov 2012 OP
The over 65 group AND the Obama administration (last I checked) pipoman Nov 2012 #1
A lot of state Democratic Parties have moved to re-legalization platforms RainDog Nov 2012 #3
The feds are who will keep this very progressive movement from moving.. pipoman Nov 2012 #5
This is an historic moment RainDog Nov 2012 #6
Marijuana is GREEN. All governments need to accept that it was put on earth in perfect form. loudsue Nov 2012 #2
Need it to fill prisons for the prison industry. julian09 Nov 2012 #4
stop the madness rjlobo422 Nov 2012 #7
what's so funny about the UN group RainDog Nov 2012 #8
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. The over 65 group AND the Obama administration (last I checked)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

Time for Democrats to grasp something actually liberal and decriminalize recreational pot use at the federal level.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
3. A lot of state Democratic Parties have moved to re-legalization platforms
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:48 PM
Nov 2012

And the medical marijuana resolution in Ark lost - but got 48.6% of the vote - a record for any marijuana reform vote in the South.

So, yeah, I think Obama is smart - this is a political issue that doesn't offer too many obstacles at the voter level. It's the interest groups that require some political maneuvers.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
5. The feds are who will keep this very progressive movement from moving..
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:06 PM
Nov 2012

this new term is a prime time for Obama to unveil a progressive plan to decriminalize at the federal level and look at actual legalization and taxing. Obama could seal a hero's legacy if he plays this issue correctly. Reductions in mexican violence, reductions in incarceration rates, reductions in law enforcement spending, use of the tax revenue to improve healthcare including mental health and addiction treatment for anyone who wants or needs it, use of the byproducts of growing it for ethanol production, and the list goes on. If he chooses to ignore it or fight the states, his legacy will likely be somewhat less impressive, IMHO.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
6. This is an historic moment
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:20 PM
Nov 2012

I don't think there's much doubt that Obama views marijuana as a relatively harmless substance - but, as Prez, he has various groups that press for their pov and, politically, prior to this moment, there hasn't been a reason for a mainstream politician to get out in front of this issue unless they represent a specific group - like Frank or Paul.

But, since the Nov. 2012 ballot - the world has changed.

People don't seem to realize, in a way, what a HUGE political game changer it was to have two states vote for legalization.

So, I'm hoping Obama will rise to this occasion and become part of history in the same way that FDR aligned with the northern Democrats to announce the end of alcohol prohibition.


loudsue

(14,087 posts)
2. Marijuana is GREEN. All governments need to accept that it was put on earth in perfect form.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

It is not distilled. It is not manufactured. It is natural. It is sacred. Leave it the hell alone.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
8. what's so funny about the UN group
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

...is that the entire UN Single Convention on Narcotics was an invention of the U.S. Drug War.

Our nation coerced all other nations to sign the treaty.

Now our citizens are saying... this is bad law.

At least we have the opportunity, at the ballot box, to state our views about this legislation.

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