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marmar

(77,089 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:51 AM Nov 2012

Robert Reich: Why BP Isn’t a Criminal


Why BP Isn’t a Criminal
Friday, November 16, 2012


Justice Department just entered into the largest criminal settlement in U.S. history with the giant oil company BP. BP plead guilty to 14 criminal counts, including manslaughter, and agreed to pay $4 billion over the next five years.

This is loony.

Mind you, I’m appalled by the carelessness and indifference of the BP executives responsible for the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico that killed eleven people on April 20, 2010, and unleashed the worst oil spill in American history.

But it defies logic to make BP itself the criminal. Corporations aren’t people. They can’t know right from wrong. They’re incapable of criminal intent. They have no brains. They’re legal fictions — pieces of paper filed away in a vault in some bank.

......(snip)......

Can we please get a grip? The only sentient beings in a corporation are the people who run them or work for them. When it comes to criminality, they’re the ones who should be punished. .................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://robertreich.org/post/35848994755



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Robert Reich: Why BP Isn’t a Criminal (Original Post) marmar Nov 2012 OP
How about they face some theKed Nov 2012 #1
+475 Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #3
He's such a sharp man, but so clueless when it comes to Capitalism. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #2
What trial? They just plead out. bluedigger Nov 2012 #4
That's what I get for replying before coffee. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #6
Tony Hayward should be in jail; instead he's set to make millions in Iraq eom amborin Nov 2012 #5
Wake me when he has an argument why BP should even exist... JackRiddler Nov 2012 #7

theKed

(1,235 posts)
1. How about they face some
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:30 AM
Nov 2012

of the same hurdles real criminals face? After all, "corporations are people too, my friend."

Barred from conducting business within the United States for the term of their sentence.

Barred from voting in future elections (or contributing moneyspeech to campaigns) - either for a period or indefinitely

Place the CEO or other executive deemed more culpable serve time in federal prison as a surrogate for the corporation.

I could go on..

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
2. He's such a sharp man, but so clueless when it comes to Capitalism.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:38 AM
Nov 2012

Sure, you can go after the individuals too, but what system created their motivations? Going after a corporation itself as criminal has important implications. This will be an interesting trial to watch.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
6. That's what I get for replying before coffee.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:56 PM
Nov 2012

No, there's no trial. But Reich was writing about the charges they faced as a corporation, so I was mulling aloud. So! They settled and he's still got a beef with the process they had to go through, with criminal charges. Why?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
7. Wake me when he has an argument why BP should even exist...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

as a private corporation, rather than having had all US assets seized, put under public management, and used to restore and compensate the Gulf region -- after the culture of profit-driven negligence and stupidity caused the Gulf of Mexico extinction event of 2010?

And of course the individual decision-makers and chiefs should be prosecuted as criminals.

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