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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRev. Franklin Graham claimed today that the “majority of Christians” did not vote.
Rev. Franklin Graham claimed today that the majority of Christians did not vote.
No, it's not 'Christians'' fault Obama won
The outspoken Rev. Franklin Graham claimed today that the majority of Christians did not vote.
We know that from of the statistics that Ive heard that the majority of Christians in this country just did not vote for whatever reason, he told the Christian Broadcasting Networks David Brody. The vast majority of evangelicals did not go to the polls. He added, God is in control, and if Christians are upset, they need to be upset at themselves. We need to do a better job of getting our people- the church to vote. Now, Im not trying to tell you how to vote, you can vote, but vote, my goodness, and vote for candidates that stand for Biblical values.
But Grahams assertion -- and implication that had white Christian evangelicals just showed up in bigger numbers, President Obama would have lost -- is off base.
In fact, white evangelicals/born-again Christians made up the same percentage of the electorate as they did in 2008 26%. They voted for Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon, by a wider margin than they did for Sen. John McCain four years ago.
And, they made up a larger share of the electorate in 2012 than in 2004, when the Christian Right supposedly fueled George W. Bushs reelection. They also voted for Romney with the exact same margin as for Bush in 2004, 78%-21%.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/16/15219396-no-its-not-christians-fault-obama-won#comments
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RichGirl
(4,119 posts)I have evangelical Christians in my family. I don't know why I got all the good teaching of Jesus...while they went off the deep end, but that's the way it is.
One characteristic of these people is they have very rigid thinking. Once something gets in the brain it is set in concrete.
The main thing is:
Jesus died for our sins and if you don't believe that you are going to hell no matter how good of a person you are....period.
Among the lesser things that they are equally adamant about:
Mormanism is a cult...period.
So, all the Fox News Obama is evil, abortion is evil, Benghazi, etc...did not penetrate the concrete of the hardcore Christians.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)I hate people who form God in their own image.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)orwell
(7,775 posts)...with that darn math again.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Now I know where he/she got it. It figures.
gordianot
(15,243 posts)Having trouble fitting through the eye of that needle?
Democat
(11,617 posts)Instead they went all out to support a Mormon who lost.
That makes the Republican party think they are not as important as they were before the election.
They gambled and lost.
no_hypocrisy
(46,168 posts)yardwork
(61,700 posts)Graham is just trying to get even more of them to vote for the next Republican.
no_hypocrisy
(46,168 posts)I'd say a majority of non-fundamentalist and mainstream Christians voted for Obama, not Romney.
yardwork
(61,700 posts)A majority of Catholics voted for Obama, 50% to 48%, but most Protestants voted for Romney.
http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
no_hypocrisy
(46,168 posts)I just find it hard to understand how African-American churches, Baptists, etc. didn't at least meet vote-for-vote with white Protestant church voters.
yardwork
(61,700 posts)African American Protestants voted for Obama by a huge percentage. White evangelicals voted for Romney by 79% - very disappointing.
Cha
(297,574 posts)And, I see it as.. Catholics on the whole are smarter than Protestants.
I don't have any affiliation whatsoever.
yardwork
(61,700 posts)As a whole, the Hispanic Catholics supported Obama very strongly.
Cha
(297,574 posts)..thanks, yardwork. Yes, Smart!
newspeak
(4,847 posts)like the wacked out, follow any jimmy jones types. my MIL and especially my SIL are christian and they voted for obama. i guess the "right" christians didn't come out and vote, hey graham?
Cha
(297,574 posts)Ecstatic that Pres Obama won re-election!
Too many of the teabagger "christians" stayed home? Why didn't Billy and Franklin have enough Pull to get them out for romhead?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Rat's Ass.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)a POS. There was an evangelical minister on Rev Al's show last night who had visited the White House (with Rev Al and others) yesterday. He eloquently called Graham out on HIS partisan values that were anything but Christian. Guys like Graham are the reason for the saying: the problem with Christianity is Christians.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think he may also have had soccer moms, but they're not a "group." Women are, and Obama won the women vote. But Romney won the white vote.
tanyev
(42,601 posts)Now that Romney's lost, there's really no more reason for you to pretend.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)God's principles are flexible over there
shenmue
(38,506 posts)So there.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...didn't they drag out the 90-year old man to tell the "real xtians" it was OK to vote for Bishop Willard over the "colored fella"? That musta been quite a soul searching moment...trying to absolve not just voting for, but being accepting of a blasphomous Mormon over the "assuredly" moooozlim black guy.
This is par for the course...rushpublicans can't accept blame and here's yet another one passing the buck. Again...no mention on the fact how everyone in the nation other than old white guys rejected everything Willard and the rushpublicans stand for. Keep up the disconnect...finally America appears to have woken up to the hucksters...
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Refuses to acknowledge the rats leaving it just as fast as they can.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)interests and that "faith based" federal money to supposedly help the poor who the leaders deem worthy; than think of what's best for their flock.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The founder's family all raised in wealth and luxury breaks into factions, fights over control of the money, then it all collapses as the sheep who were getting fleeced to fund the empire of greed wander off to find a new religious con man to follow.
If there was no money to be made running the religion scam, most of these people would go away.
Botany
(70,567 posts)lalalu
(1,663 posts)He knows better than God now
marlakay
(11,484 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)The evangelical Christians voted for Mittens but the rest of us are not so lockstep. There are many moderate/liberal Christians who vote for Democrats. That caring about the poor thing is real to us.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)is nothing but a slick republican politician. He just uses the Bible for bucks. Fuller brush salesmen run in the family.
appleannie1
(5,068 posts)Christian. Go live on an island and take your cult with you.
LiberalFighter
(51,054 posts)there aren't that many Christians in America. And if there aren't that many Christians then they will not have an impact on elections. But that can't be true because it would mean that Romney would had lost by a much bigger margin.
There is a reason why he became a minister. It's easier to lie and not be held accountable by your followers.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Same as it's ever been
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)and respect their authority. Any of this come tumbling out of his mouth while he was using his bible as a weapon to beat people over the head?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)if they were Muslim.
Raine
(30,540 posts)caring about people, not wanting people to go hungry, wanting them to be able to have a roof over their heads, etc etc etc.